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1oldRoadie
05-18-03, 12:15 PM
My wife found a mid 80's Bianchi with these components on it. the bike had 7sp index'd on the downtube, I Put some 7spd STI on it for her and swapped the cassette.

I can not exactly place this series of comonpents...are they straight C-RECORD? They look awful fancy for that.


1oldRoadie
05-18-03, 12:17 PM
rear

1oldRoadie
05-18-03, 12:17 PM
rear2


1oldRoadie
05-18-03, 12:18 PM
crank

1oldRoadie
05-18-03, 12:19 PM
brake

1oldRoadie
05-18-03, 12:20 PM
brake2

lotek
05-18-03, 08:29 PM
C-record or maybe
Croce D'Aune (can you pronounce that?)
Not sure tho, haven't seen CD'A in a while.
Nice find.
what model Bianchi? if I can find year etc. and
its stock I can look it up over at CR list


Marty

lotek
05-18-03, 08:32 PM
Here is a C D'A Rear:
Marty

lotek
05-18-03, 08:38 PM
There is also a possibility it is early Chorus.
The brakes don't look like C D'a or C record
which both came with Delta brakes (or they were
an option).

velocipedio
05-18-03, 09:08 PM
the single pivot brakes were an option on delta-era record. the brakes actually look like the record single pivots.

TandemGeek
05-18-03, 10:07 PM
I didn't look close enough.... so I killed my first 'affirmative' reply (what was I thinking).

On closer inspection this appears to be from Campy's Athena Group.
http://www.campyonly.com/images/catalogs/1991/91athena.jpg

1oldRoadie
05-19-03, 11:10 AM
Martythe numbers stamped into the bottom bracket are "8409" and "A-6".

other makings on the bike are the words "FORMULA TWO", "COLUMBUS" and a word that is faded that says "....ANDRA".

And yes it does appear to be early Athena.

My wife and I have a deal that I will keep it rolling, BUT she has to clean it. Shame the components are so neat looking...a little buffing and a little polishing...and a lot of cleaning it and the bike would really look special.

Terry

RareVos
05-19-03, 12:31 PM
Those parts are definitely Athena... the brakes are of the "monoplaner" ilk and were not offered in the Record line. They did produce monoplaners in Chorus though... great brakes actually, maybe the best single pivot calipers campy ever made. You did a good thing to replace the 7-spd indexing, it was inferior to the same shimano indexing gear of the time.

lotek
05-19-03, 01:00 PM
Well if its Athena I believe that gruppo debuted in the
1991 catalogue (thats the first ref. to it I can find).
the Chorus components debuted in 1987.
Still looking for late 80's Bianchi catalogues.

Marty

TandemGeek
05-19-03, 01:28 PM
Once I stopped trying to "think 80's" and OEM components it was a lot easier to narrow down the group as something "newer".

The dead give-aways on the Athena group are the location of the rear derailleur stop screws & the Chorus-like aero arms of the brake arches.

skdsl
05-19-03, 09:17 PM
the cranks are definately not c record as the c record had one of the chainring bolts hidden behind the crankarm. They still do that don't they? I think the chorus would also have had the self-extracting crank bolt as do the c record.

velocipedio
05-20-03, 06:00 AM
this is the 1991 athena group (http://www.campyonly.com/images/catalogs/1991/91athena.jpg) ... i'm not sure, though. the derailleur looks more like chorus (http://www.campyonly.com/images/catalogs/1991/91chorus.jpg) . i might have missed it, but how many speeds?

TandemGeek
05-20-03, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by velocipedio
this is the 1991 athena group (http://www.campyonly.com/images/catalogs/1991/91athena.jpg) ... i'm not sure, though. the derailleur looks more like chorus (http://www.campyonly.com/images/catalogs/1991/91chorus.jpg) . i might have missed it, but how many speeds?

No, it's Athena... For the rear derailleur, look at the location of the upper and lower limit adjusting screws. On Athena, the H and L screws are at the top of the parallelogram whereas they are at the bottom of the Chorus.

For the brake arches, on the Athena the right pivot arm sits in front of the left pivot arm -- which is what you'll see on most single and dual pivot brake arches. The early Chorus brakes were unique in that the right pivot arm passed through a slot in the left pivot arm.

lotek
05-20-03, 07:10 AM
yup, on campy only there is photo of 1987 Chorus and
the adjuster screw are on the bottom of cage plate not
top. Chorus announcement (http://www.campyonly.com/images/history/1980s/record_news_1987.jpg)
I'm gonna have to give up my membership to
Campy-only.
Thank gawd this is off topic for Classic rendezvous or I'd
have to slink outta there too. :D

Marty

1oldRoadie
05-20-03, 07:25 AM
It's still a very nice looking set of components.

and I THANK ALL OF YOU for your input.

All I knew was that it did not look like any of the stuff that I had seen before.