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oldacura
03-08-07, 08:43 AM
If I recall correctly, the RAAM record is held by a tandem. If a tandem can easily beat a single on a very long race like this, doesn't it stand to reason that a triplet or quad would do better? Is this in fact true?
masiman
03-08-07, 08:50 AM
If it is a linear equation, then yes it would. If I had to guess, I would think tandem would be the fastest overall. But i could be way wrong :).
TandemGeek
03-08-07, 10:01 AM
If I recall correctly, the RAAM record is held by a tandem. If a tandem can easily beat a single on a very long race like this, doesn't it stand to reason that a triplet or quad would do better? Is this in fact true?
The record you are probably referring to is the the one set by Lon Haldeman & Pete Penseyres in 1987. Their crossing was not part of RAAM but still stands as the fastest crossing by an individual rider or two-person tandem team. They had an average speed of 15.97mph and a time of 7:14:55. Pete Penseyres set the mens record back in 1986 with an average speed of 15.4mph or there abouts.
All the RAAM records can be found here; there are a lot of them:
http://www.raceacrossamerica.org/files/raaminformation/RAAMrecords.html
RAAMs rules on Bicycles appear below. There are no provisions for triplets, quads, etc.. so it's an academic question but, in theory, a team that worked well together and had similar levels of endurance would be scary-fast. However, the more riders you add the more difficult it becomes to sustain that level of performance evenly across the team and the weakest link becomes the limiting factor.
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cornucopia72
03-08-07, 12:11 PM
From my personal experience: The triple is faster than the tandem which is faster than the single in flat, slight inclines and downhill roads. Climbing on the triple would be slower than in the tandem which is slower than in the single. The steeper the climb the higher the difference between the triple speed and the average speed of the three riders while on singles. If you could assemble a team of strong cyclists with very close to the same body size that could share on the duties as captains - stokers, you could put a lot of miles really fast.... the triple demands a lot more upper body work from the captain than the tandem.
zonatandem
03-08-07, 01:00 PM
Believe the Haldeman/Notorangelo team set a mixed tandem record for RAAM 9 days, 20 hours, 7 minutes back in the 1980s sometime.
A quad has done the trancontinetal ride (but not on RAAM) finished fine, but the bike 'ate' lotsa chains!
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