Southern California - Sandy Eggo Sesquicentury Ride Report and Pix

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merider1
03-11-07, 09:10 AM
Okay, so as most of you know, I turned 27 yesterday. Something about this birthday hit me hard this year. I’m very grateful to be alive and healthy, but I’m getting closer to a Big O birthday (3 years) and that somehow bothers my “but I only feel 20 mentality!” brain. So, what better way to celebrate it than get into the company of men in spandex (love ‘em), on my bike, and ride until my tooshy is on fire (really, I wonder if one can cause permanent damage in that region riding like I do – but I’ll save that for another thread and enjoyment of the masses).

So, 3:30 am, alarm goes off. Now, I almost missed yesterday because I thought I had a touch of a bug (still do, but oh well). Thank goodness I didn’t! I got my butt up, ate some rice with low fat cheese melted on it, chocolate milk and a Rockstar. Geared up, lubed up, grabbed bike and picked up Magicant (yes, DJ Jazzy Joel) at 4:30. We then met The Fixer and Scootcore (two willing victims) at the Metrolink station in Universal City. (Jpconrad, who didn’t feel well either and who has the sense God gave a lemon, didn't join. John, I hope you feel better!). We got on our bikes and rolled exactly at 5 am (I mean sharp, on the dot, not a second later…of course, we had someone keeping us on track all day as we were on a mission – San Diego or bust!)

Off we went hitting Ventura Blvd in the dark. Not five minutes into the ride, DJ Jazzy starts singing “Happy Birthday” to me, getting Bill and George to chime in. It wasn’t on key, but it was very sweet. I knew that wouldn’t be the only version throughout the day, so I grinned and beared it ;). Now, I don’t know how many of you have ridden over the Sepulveda Pass, but if you have and have done so in even a slight bit of traffic, it is a nice route but can be harrowing. Yesterday, both on Ventura Blvd. and Sepulveda, there was almost zero traffic (duh! 5-6am on a weekend morning – only complete nuts would be out there! Oh, wait a minute…:p) It was downright purty if not a little eerie. There was this thick fog along the pass and it was quite cool in the morning. I was grateful for my Cannari jacket (ladies, the women’s shell jacket is the best jacket I’ve ever owned and I highly recommend it!).

As we reached the Westside and continued down into Marina Del Rey, it was getting light outside. Hitting Ballona Bike Path off of the Pass was also eerie as it was empty and the fog over the swamp water (poor duckies) cast a little glow. We passed the rowers out being tortured in their canoes and hit the strand. The ocean was there, of course, and my breath is always taken a way for a moment when I see it. Okay, I’ll admit it, I was emotional all day yesterday, and although the boys didn’t know it, I cried a little along the route (I blew snot rockets and blamed my “bug” so they wouldn’t know). I’m just reminded how small and inconsequential I am yet still part of an amazing world at times like that (early morning, on my bike with friends, having the ocean come into view and having a blast).

Joel had told I am The Edge and Happytime that we would roll into Redondo Beach at 7:15am and we were right on the money (about 5 minutes early actually). I am The Edge exists! And he’s a cutie – tall Texan with a little bit of a drawl and a good rider. Happytime, who is adorable and OMG that woman has a gorgeous figure –I think I should take up Triathlons!- was there as well. We greeted and took off with I am The Edge joining for some miles. Happytime was off to run and, gulp, swim in the ocean. You go, girl, I ain’t putting so much as a toe in the ocean as I know a great white shark will bite it off!

After leaving Redondo, we hit the one and only yucky part of the route (and the only part I didn’t like – sure, we had traffic in Laguna, but at least it’s pretty down there) – Wilmington. But all in all, it wasn’t that bad, it was just about 1.5 miles of trucks and bridges with debris. Fortunately, the lanes are freaky wide and none of us flatted, so no big deal. Joel knew a back street that got us up to the LA river trail right before Long Beach. We jumped on that, headed into LB and down into Huntington. Easy miles, might I say, but we were going at a good pace. I’m NOT sandbagging, so everyone keep your panties on straight (unless you have good reason to remove them), but those boys can motor! And it seems effortless for them. Bill, whom I’ve ridden with many times, has lost weight (I’m so jealous, Bill) and he is climbing so strong and so fast on the flats. George has always been fast as well, and Joel is freaky fast (and like an energizer bunny, the man NEVER runs out of steam…never! I don’t think I saw even a hint of fatigue on his face the whole day). So, we were trucking between 18 and 24 mph for most of those miles. The stoplights slowed us for sure, but otherwise, it was a strong pace.

In Huntington, I am The Edge turned around, but it was very nice having him along. I won’t repeat the joke, but after he cracked it, we all laughed and told him that he fits right in! He did, for sure, and I hope he joins on many BF rides in the future!

After Huntington, my stomach started growling. I was getting hungry and very sweetly reminded Joel of this (5 or 6 times, but whose counting?). Joel kept telling me it was just a few miles to San Clemente and we’d eat. We were stopping along the route at separate spots – at public bathrooms on the beach with lots of stalls to accommodate us riders and then at 7-11s and liquor stores to buy Gatorade. Smart move on Joel’s part. This made the breaks succinct and easy to roll in and out of! I was impressed with his route and planning to say the least. But fortunately for me, he got the Jack N the Box in the town before San Clemente mixed up so we got to lunch a little sooner – yippee! When we arrived, Indolent58 met us. He had ridden up 54 miles to meet and ride back down with us. So, before taken off, we grabbed a bite. I would have normally never thought of JNB as a food stop on a ride, but the chicken Ciabatta hit the spot (that and a few sips of Joel’s chocolate shake).

With our tummies full, we took off again. Traffic was a little heavy through the south beach communities, but it was still a very nice ride, and our pace was still strong. I was amazed that I actually felt better at that point. We headed out and onto the dreaded I-5. I’m chicken riding out there but I will admit that it is a faster option – UNLESS you get a flat. The cycling gods had been smiling down on us all day, but suddenly decided to talk amongst themselves whenever we entered the 5. Sure enough, Bill got a flat. So, we all stopped (except Dan who couldn’t hear me yelling over the wind) and Bill fixed his front tire (very quickly might I add). And we were off again…well, no, we weren’t…because Bill’s back tire then blew! :eek: Two flats on the 5 – go figure! Again, Bill was lightening fast and we were on our way once more. Now, we’re at mile 130 or so and I’m starting to feel it. Not bad, mind you, but a little fatigue. We were still hitting it hard and the talk of Torrey had started. Somehow, Torrey is feared, whispered about, argued over…and yet it’s just a hill! And not even a bad one – but still I feared it. I figured, granny gear it would be. Sure enough, hit Torrey and we were up that nothing of a hill in no time. I did spin it all the way up, but my legs felt fine. Freaky DJ Jazzy Joel sprinted up the damn thing as usual! Oh, and he sang at least three other versions of birthday songs as well. He says he takes B vitamins, but I still wonder where he grows his spinach. :p After Torrey, I knew we were almost home – just a few more miles. Dan left us in La Jolla to head home (he did his century for March!) and then there were 4. No drama, just easy miles (almost all downhill) into San Diego and to the train station.

I’d be lying if I didn’t admit that for the last 10 miles I was starting to really feel it. Dummy here had stopped fueling and I was just ready to be out of the air. My wheezing had started and I needed a hit off of my inhaler (I could have just asked the guys to stop but I wanted to get to the station), so when Amtrak finally came into view, I was elated. 159.5 miles!!!! Yippee!!!!! I jumped off my bike, and followed the boys into the station. I looked over, and there was Dan in a t-shirt all clean sitting. I thought, “is he taking the train back with us? I thought he lived in La Jolla.” Man, I’m a ditz sometimes. No, he was there with a birthday cake (I’m tearing up as I type this - why am I so emotional! :o) and the boys started singing Happy Birthday (this time on key) and the people in the train station joined in. It was so sweet. Thank you, Dan. Thank you, Joel, Thank you, George. Thank you, Bill. I know you are all going to roll your eyes (you're men and this stuff probably drives you crazy), but that was really touching and made my birthday so special. What a wonderful day and I can’t imagine having spent it in any other way and in any other company! The cake was the bomb! Joel ate half of it, but I was able to get a tiny little square of what he left (hee hee hee….:lol:…I crack myself up). Actually, there was a whole lot of cake left that Dan either left there or took. We did not take it on the train. Dan, not that I wasn’t grateful, but I would have eaten the whole thing and gone into sugar coma!

Train ride was great as usual with me picking on Joel and poking him all the way back (he’s single, I can do that - he’s also a hottie, so what’s a girl to do?). George fell asleep and Bill was his usual hy-larious self. Joel just took the abuse. ;)

Great, great, great, great day!!!!! Thank you guys!!!!!!:)



PS: I may have fibbed a little about my age, but again, whose counting?


merider1
03-11-07, 09:37 AM
Getting ready to go. Fixer looks thrilled, doesn't he?
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Entering Ballona Bike Path
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Coming into Redondo Beach
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I am The Edge, Happytime and Magicant
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One of a few shots I got of I am The Edge in action
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merider1
03-11-07, 09:42 AM
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Joel, modeling his cycling gear...now, if I could have only gotten the back view as well...
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It's so beautiful down there
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Indolent58 (Dan) joins us
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Well fed boys
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merider1
03-11-07, 09:46 AM
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VanceMac
03-11-07, 09:50 AM
Great ride report, and great pics, as usual, ME. What an epic journey. Sounds like you have a birthday ride tradition to uphold now. :)

merider1
03-11-07, 09:57 AM
Thanks, Vance! :) Yes, well, I don't know if I can top that. Although, Joel's BD is on April 1st (such a fitting BD for him, by the way), and I'm going to torture...um...I mean "surprise" him all along the Solvang Double route. 200 miles to celebrate his turning 32! :D

jsigone
03-11-07, 11:02 AM
nice write up and pics!!!!

Belated Happy b-day to you:D

Happytime
03-11-07, 11:12 AM
Great write-up, Mary. Can't think of a better way to spend a birthday than cycling with a bunch of men in spandex. It was fun meeting all of you, even if you did try to take a pic of me in my skinsuit...NOT!! Way more fun being part of the two-headed Texan anyway.
Agree with VM — this sounds like a tradition being born. I'll be sure to get ready to ride on the day you turn 28!

One problem though...

In Huntington, I am The Edge turned around, but it was very nice having him along. I won’t repeat the joke, but after he cracked it, we all laughed...
NOT FAIR! Now you HAVE to tell us the joke. It's part of the rules.


BTW - What time did you make it to the station?

jpconrad
03-11-07, 11:22 AM
I'm glad to hear that you made it to SD with only a couple flats. What time did you arrive at the train station?

roadfix
03-11-07, 11:29 AM
Hey Joel...thanks again for organizing this ride, arranging the post ride festivity, and paying for my train fare back!! Waay cool! :beer:
Nice write up, M.E!.......and a pleasure riding with you again Bill...:)
It also was a pleasure to finally meet and ride with Indolent58.......and very nice of him to be waiting at the station for the surprise...:)

I think we made it to the SD station around 5:30......well before the the 6:20 departure time.

jpconrad
03-11-07, 11:41 AM
So you had plenty of time to spare. I was looking at the train schedule and it looks like there's later trains, as well. If I end up doing this next weekend (a modified version using SGRT instead) is there any reason I would have to make the 6:20 train if I'm running late?

sshakari
03-11-07, 11:45 AM
Great write up ME! Fantastic ride and pics. You are pretty good at writting, is there blogging in your future?

magicant
03-11-07, 12:03 PM
So you had plenty of time to spare. I was looking at the train schedule and it looks like there's later trains, as well. If I end up doing this next weekend (a modified version using SGRT instead) is there any reason I would have to make the 6:20 train if I'm running late?
George actually pointed out that there was a later train which surprised me -- I had forgotten there are later trains because they don't work for getting back without alternate transportation for the end of the route.

The Metro Redline shuts down too early to connect back to the Valley (11:15 is the last train). But if you have alternate ways of getting home from Union Station, it would work.

magicant
03-11-07, 12:14 PM
Thanks to everyone for a wonderful day and a wonderful ride.

Had a fantastic time. I'd share more, but m.e. pretty much said it all (does that surprise anyone?). The ride went very quickly, but I found it tougher as a group ride than a solo ride - probably because I was worried about everyone the whole way, wanting to make sure we didn't lose anyone and that everyone was feeling good.

We made great time, though - our ride time was under 10 hours (9 hrs, 59 minutes and 53 seconds - I'm not kidding, that's what my Garmin read when we stopped at Amtrak and I turned it off).

Huge thanks again to Indolent for getting the cake and driving it all the way downtown to meet and surprise m.e. -- that was a great way to cap off the ride. And thanks also for a couple of short cuts that saved us a big chunk of time by cutting out a lot of stoplights and cars on El Camino Real.

This isn't a route I would recommend as a casual ride. There are some beautiful, fun stretches but there are some tough miles in there through some of the city streets. Now that we've done it, I don't know that we need to do this route again but it was a great accomplishment.

The time limit in the back of our minds kept us moving throughout, for better or for worse. If we did it again, I'd probably change the scheduling to figure out that later train somehow so we didn't have to hit it quite so hard (and we could go through Pendleton, which adds 20 - 25 minutes to the route). Or as has been mentioned, get a room, relax in San Diego for the night then take the train back in the morning.

jpconrad
03-11-07, 12:23 PM
I'm thinking about doing it from my place since I have Gold Line stop within a half block. I can ride to SGRT and drop down that to PCH.

Which sections of the route would you NOT do again if you could route around it? Also, is this essentially the same route that the Amtrak Century uses?

Thanks Joel!

magicant
03-11-07, 12:39 PM
I'm thinking about doing it from my place since I have Gold Line stop within a half block. I can ride to SGRT and drop down that to PCH.

Which sections of the route would you NOT do again if you could route around it? Also, is this essentially the same route that the Amtrak Century uses?

Thanks Joel!

If I did it again - I'd probably try riding through Glendale, Pasadena and then down SGRT the way you're talking about it.

Easier than the ride down along the coast and through Wilmington to Long Beach.

Then with a little more time, we'd take Pendleton instead of the I5. I've never minded the I5 before, but flatting in the middle of it is a bit nerve-racking. You have a bad blowout and go down out there and it's not good.

The only other section that's really a pain is through Laguna -- there's just no riding room through much of the PCH down there. Maybe if I knew the area better, I could put an alternative together and maybe someone else knows a good way around it.

The Amtrak Century route was the basic way I put mine together, with some slight changes to make it easier and/or safer (like the crossover from Sunset Cliffs to Nimitz - we continued on Sunset, took a left on Point Loma then a right on Nimitz, so we didn't have to cross very busy lanes of traffic).

merider1
03-11-07, 01:43 PM
Huge thanks again to Indolent for getting the cake and driving it all the way downtown to meet and surprise m.e. -- that was a great way to cap off the ride. And thanks also for a couple of short cuts that saved us a big chunk of time by cutting out a lot of stoplights and cars on El Camino Real.
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+ 1,000,000 - Dan, that was such a nice gesture!

And thank you, too, Joel, for treating us to the train ticket back!:)

merider1
03-11-07, 01:44 PM
Great write up ME! Fantastic ride and pics. You are pretty good at writting, is there blogging in your future?
Thanks, Serg. :) No, I doubt I'll blog in the future. I just like to tell about the rides. I'm sorry the reports are soooo long, but I try to fit it all in (and still miss stuff anyway).

We missed you last Thursday on the night ride, by the way.

jschen
03-11-07, 01:49 PM
Great ride report and pics. :beer:


Okay, so as most of you know, I turned 27 yesterday. [...]
PS: I may have fibbed a little about my age, but again, whose counting?
Yeah... everyone knows that 27 does not follow 24. :rolleyes: Happy belated birthday, M.E.

:bday:

sshakari
03-11-07, 01:52 PM
Thanks, Serg. :) No, I doubt I'll blog in the future. I just like to tell about the rides. I'm sorry the reports are soooo long, but I try to fit it all in (and still miss stuff anyway).

We missed you last Thursday on the night ride, by the way.
I meant it as a compliment - pretty good write up.

I've been busy w/ family stuff - kids and entertainning them by going to weekend getaways, concerts etc. Been off the bike for 2+ weeks. I need to ride. I'll be there this thursday.

mateo44
03-11-07, 05:10 PM
The only other section that's really a pain is through Laguna -- there's just no riding room through much of the PCH down there. Maybe if I knew the area better, I could put an alternative together and maybe someone else knows a good way around it.


Check out the Burrito Century route slip (which begins at the Irvine Amtrak station).

It takes you down to the coast, but aviods the Laguna morass by dropping you down in San Clemente (south of Laguna). From there, it's a nice hop down to Pendleton.

Not sure if that's useful, given where you'd be coming from...

tbrown524
03-11-07, 06:42 PM
Great ride report and pictures!!! I want to put you guys photos up on my wall as my road idols. I hope to be able to join in a journey like that in the near future.

shakeNbake
03-11-07, 07:02 PM
I wish I didn't have an Aikido practice on Saturdays, I would've joined you guys, at least from ballona - long beach.

I live like 3 blocks away from ballona. :(

Glad to see you guys had fun!

I am The Edge
03-11-07, 09:19 PM
saturday was a blast. everyone was great! i didn't know it was m.e.'s birthday though. :(

we were bookin' along at a good pace for all the ziggin' and zaggin' we had to do...i knew they'd make it with plenty of time when i left them in huntington beach.

awesome day. :D

the joke was....you'll have to ask me in person, it won't translate well on the internet. :lol: :lol: :lol:

merider1
03-11-07, 09:26 PM
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the joke was....you'll have to ask me in person, it won't translate well on the internet. :lol: :lol: :lol:
:eek: NO! You'll get the thread shut down!

Actually, here I'll tell it. We were talking about Britney Spears and Lindsey Lohan and how they have a tendency to flash it "all" to the camera. So, after Joel said that he has seen the actual shots of both women's public exposures and described what those pics resembled, I am The Edge said "...

Oh, darn it. Passed my bedtime. Nighty night, So Cal! :D :p ;)

Scootcore
03-11-07, 09:30 PM
hey all, it was as all have said, an amazing ride, super tough but super rewarding!!!!! y'all(ME.......) are the best group of people to ride with, period. we have to make another santa b assault ASAP!!!

merider1
03-11-07, 09:33 PM
hey all, it was as all have said, an amazing ride, super tough but super rewarding!!!!! y'all(ME.......) are the best group of people to ride with, period. we have to make another santa b assault ASAP!!!
+ 1,000,000! :) And back at you, Bill. I can't wait to do Santa B again. :D

jpconrad
03-11-07, 10:28 PM
+ 1,000,000! :) And back at you, Bill. I can't wait to do Santa B again. :D

So when are you planning another Santa B, I'd like to go this time!

Scootcore
03-11-07, 11:39 PM
good question...very good.....we kind of talked about it and itll probably be a bit what with everyone doing multiple doubles in the next few weeks....maybe the end of april???

jpconrad
03-11-07, 11:59 PM
Multiple doubles? What other ones besides Solvang? Hemet?

Scootcore
03-12-07, 12:13 AM
two is multiple!!!

thomson
03-12-07, 05:52 AM
Great ride guys, kudos to Joel for the planning and m.e. for the writeup. I loved the pictures (although a pic of happytime in the skin suit seems to be missing).

I do want to be the first to wish m.e. a happy birthday, happy 27th (cough cough) And before anyone starts responding and including links to other threads, I do realize I am quite late to the party on the birthday wishes).

merider1
03-12-07, 08:12 AM
Thanks, Thomson. :) I appreciate your wishes and willingness to let the age, cough, cough, slide. :p

As for the Santa B century, I'm with Bill that probably late April or even mid May. As for now it looks like:

March weekends: Jax to Jax, easy Palos Verdes 100, Solvang Double (i.e. two centuries and a double)

April weekends: Back to the Beach II, Solvang double (i.e. one century and a double)

So perhaps two weeks after Hemet? The Tour de Fire is the first weekend of May I think.

Anyway, I'll figure out a date and get the SB back on the calendar. :D

Indolent58
03-12-07, 08:53 AM
Thanks, Thomson. :)
As for the Santa B century, I'm with Bill that probably late April or even mid May. ..
So perhaps two weeks after Hemet?

April 28th is the Wildflower Century. :mad: The one you said I should sign up for. I guess I'll never get (have) to drive north for a Socal BF ride. :rolleyes:

nesdog
03-12-07, 09:31 AM
Thanks, Thomson. :) I appreciate your wishes and willingness to let the age, cough, cough, slide. :p

As for the Santa B century, I'm with Bill that probably late April or even mid May. As for now it looks like:

March weekends: Jax to Jax, easy Palos Verdes 100, Solvang Double (i.e. two centuries and a double)

April weekends: Back to the Beach II, Solvang double (i.e. one century and a double)

So perhaps two weeks after Hemet? The Tour de Fire is the first weekend of May I think.

Anyway, I'll figure out a date and get the SB back on the calendar. :D

Cruising the Conejo is Mother's Day weekend.

Sheldon

merider1
03-12-07, 10:25 AM
April 28th is the Wildflower Century. :mad: The one you said I should sign up for. I guess I'll never get (have) to drive north for a Socal BF ride. :rolleyes:
Why the mad face? :eek: Wildflower century is wonderful! Besides, the date for the next SB isn't set in stone yet!

Scootcore
03-12-07, 10:28 AM
plus wildflower sold out in something like eight seconds.....i was seriously considering doing it, signed on early that day and it was all over but the shouting!!

DZA_LA
03-12-07, 11:43 AM
MERIDER wouldit be possible for you to give a turn by turn map of the route you took?

magicant
03-12-07, 11:48 AM
here's the route slip - we strayed from it a couple of times, but it's basically the route.

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Sandy-Eggo

VanceMac
03-12-07, 11:55 AM
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Sandy-Eggo

That is epic!

magicant
03-12-07, 11:58 AM
That is epic!
Crazy as we are, we were discussing what we would add if we wanted to make it a double century route. Not that we would do that, but just discussing it crossed the line into insanity.

Ended up agreeing we would ride up through the valley to Topanga and the Santa Monica mountains, then down the coast. Or, adding in the La River/Rio Hondo/SGRT loop.

Anyone up for an unsupported double??

thomson
03-12-07, 12:05 PM
Crazy as we are, we were discussing what we would add if we wanted to make it a double century route. Not that we would do that, but just discussing it crossed the line into insanity.

Ended up agreeing we would ride up through the valley to Topanga and the Santa Monica mountains, then down the coast. Or, adding in the La River/Rio Hondo/SGRT loop.

Anyone up for an unsupported double??

Joel, you guys are awesome!!

I have done lots of unsupported doubles and let me recommend something, instead of trying to catch a train, just make it a loop., You can cover a lot of area in 200 miles. I will give you a couple of my favorites

Solvang and back. There are a few ways to go, like hilly out and beach (flat) back.
North to Frasier Park, west on Lockwood Valley to Route 33, south on 33 (past Pine Mountain, Rose Valley, Ojai) into Ventura and back to the west valley/east Ventura County.

awiner
03-12-07, 12:10 PM
Why don't we just shoot ourselves while we are ahead ! :)

Jim, the route via Lockwood Valley and up the 33 is beautiful... A climbing fest indeed however.

nygirl777
03-12-07, 12:15 PM
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Anyone up for an unsupported double??

I can barely do a supported single :cry: :cry: nonetheless sounds like fun and torture at the same time.

Scootcore
03-12-07, 12:18 PM
its only torture till its over!

thomson
03-12-07, 12:18 PM
Why don't we just shoot ourselves while we are ahead ! :)

Jim, the route via Lockwood Valley and up the 33 is beautiful... A climbing fest indeed however.


<shoot ourselves.......:D :D >

Yes, Lockwood area is fantastic, talk about no traffic!! If it is done as a remote start (say from Ojai?) you can then loop into Mil Portero. It really is isolated. Caution-not a summer ride, it sizzles out there and there are very few places to get water. If done in the winter, there is frequently snow on the peaks. I think the coldest I have been on a bike (Mt. Pinos) and the hottest I have been on a bike have been in that valley.

merider1
03-12-07, 12:20 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure I want to do an unsupported double. :eek: 160 miles to San Diego was fine, but it was a straight shot. Climbing in canyons in summer heat for 200 miles? Not so much...

roadfix
03-12-07, 01:42 PM
I was just looking at our ride data. Did we really spend 2 1/2 hours off our bikes? It just didn't seem like we did for some reason......but I guess those little stops add up. I'm just saying......:D

merider1
03-12-07, 02:10 PM
Actually, our breaks were succinct (I thought) and necessary (although, I could have skipped at least one of the bathroom breaks). So, that seems right. Figure 5-10 minutes per break (especially if you're buying gatorade and refilling) and we spent at least 1/2 hour at lunch (actually more like 45 minutes). Unless we plan to ride them Vireo-style, I'm not all that shocked by the time off the bike.

magicant
03-12-07, 02:13 PM
You also have to consider time spent "stopped" but on the bike. Lots of stoplights, changing tires (twice).