Road Cycling - giant foolery

hey all
random question, but does anyone actually know what giant's ocr and tcr stand for? actually, im just looking for the o and t, as i assume the cr is compact road, but... anyway, see if you can help.
peace and guhey all

OCR=oversize compact road (large diameter frame tubes)

TCR=total cr (it's more compact than the ocr?)

This is an educated guess....

TCR = Team / Compact Road Technology
OCR = Oversized / Compact Road Technology

You'll almost always see TCR used in conjuction with "Team" in much the same way that OCR is used in conjuction with "Oversize" or "Oversized".

Moreover, the big difference between the TCR frames and the OCR frames is the geometry and weight. The TCR frames were developed for racing, feature very aggressive geometry, and come in under the 1 kilo mark. The OCR frames were developed for "weekend warriors" and feature relaxed geometry for a more forgiving ride. They weigh in at 2.5lbs, a bit over the 1 kilo mark.

I looked thru all our lit. and it is not mentioned anywhere. i called in to the reps and no one was sure. So I emailed the product developer and when he gets back to me I will post.

Originally posted by Rev.Chuck
I looked thru all our lit. and it is not mentioned anywhere. i called in to the reps and no one was sure. So I emailed the product developer and when he gets back to me I will post.

You gotta love it....

Kinda like the Pontiac GTO = Grand Tourismo Omologato.

GTO= Gas Tires Oil

Darn, I thought that GTO stood for Garbage Truck Option!!

TCR= total compact road
OCR=ovalized compact road, this does not really apply anymore as the tubes are now mostly round.

Originally posted by Rev.Chuck
TCR= total compact road
OCR=ovalized compact road, this does not really apply anymore as the tubes are now mostly round.

Well, I guess that's why no one pays much attention to what the initials stand for... The first one is nearly meaningless and the second no longer applies. Perfect.

I think I like my guesses better; at least they tried to tie back to the marketing/design of the two frames.

Of course, given Giant's penchant for acronyms (TCR, OCR, GCT) it makes one wonder if Giant isn't actually G.I.A.N.T.?

And now I have another tidbit(more email) from Giant that says the O stands for oversized not ovalized, which, I guess does still apply.
The acronyms are confusing but they do ride nice.

wow, this is all hilarious. maybe i'm more lost now than i was to begin with...

sounds like Giant read this thread and decided to go with it.

According to the website below, TCR stands for "TIG and Compact Road technology", not "Total Compact Road."

And it says OCR stands for "Oversized Compact Race".. hmm, probably they meant "Road."

So, both the "T" in TCR and the "O" in OCR describe the manufacturing processes of the frames. Kinda makes sense, huh? Probably the TIG welding process was a big deal back in 1996, when TCR first came out.


http://www.edinburgh-bicycle.co.uk/news/newinstock.html#giant

FORD=Fix Or Repair Daily

If you lived in the south in the mid '80s and banked at NCNB (North Carolina National Bank - which became Bank of America) ..... NCNB=Nobody Cares Nobody Bothers

WGAR Cleveland = Worlds Greatest AM Radio
KFQD Anchorage = Known For Quality Delivery
WEWS TV Cleveland = Edward W Scripps
WIOD Miami = Wonderful Isle Of Dreams
WMMS Cleveland = Where Music Means Something

and on and on and on.....

Sorry to digress from the thread like that but you got me thinking of this stuff...

-Wynn

Originally posted by firebolt
According to the website below, TCR stands for "TIG and Compact Road technology", not "Total Compact Road." Probably the TIG welding process was a big deal back in 1996, when TCR first came out.

TIG welding was used on "department store" bikes in the late 1970's and the first TIG welded, bike shop bike (Specialized's Stumpjumper) showed up around 1981. By 1996 TIG welding was was just another one of several methods of fabricating bicycle frames, i.e., lugged, fillet-brazed, bonded, composite...