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"DO NOT DRIVE ON SHOULDER"
as seen on Rhode Island Avenue this morning, a white sign with the above directive informing motorists that they should not drive on the shoulder.
come on!
doesn't anybody have any common sense anymore?
why does a sign like this even have to go up in the first place?
picture to follow if I can manage to get it off my camera phone.
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I see these a lot. My favorite sign (at the first intersection when leaving work) states "Wait For Green." I'm sorry, but I think my sign beats your sign but I don't have a picture :)
In Texas it is common practice for a slower motorist to pull onto the shoulder to let a faster overtaking vehicle pass when a solid center stripe is present on a two lane road. I'm not sure if it's legal, but I never saw any signs prohibiting it.
In Texas it is common practice for a slower motorist to pull onto the shoulder to let a faster overtaking vehicle pass when a solid center stripe is present on a two lane road. I'm not sure if it's legal, but I never saw any signs prohibiting it.
Not only is it legal, in many vehicle codes it's specified as appropriate action for any slow moving vehicle. Those codes require turning off the roadway (moving onto the shoulder or into a designated turnout area) after 5 or move vehicles have assembled themselves behind the slow moving vehicle. Depending on the speed of the slow moving vehicle, it's common courtesy to move when even just one vehicle is being impeded from their normal flow. I ride my bike like this and find it works quite well.
There is a
"Stop on Red"
sign on my commute route
I've seen the Do not Drive on Shoulder signs in the bay area before. Often these are used in places where the shoulder is as wide or nearly as wide as a travel lane and traffic often backs up, hence being a very tempting driving place.
Actually if I recall right there is a sign in the bay area (San Jose?) that read something like:
Do not drive on shoulder except 4-6pm
or maybe DNDOS except for right turn
or some similar type exception
Al
From the Texas Vehicle Code:
§ 545.058. DRIVING ON IMPROVED SHOULDER. (a) An operator
may drive on an improved shoulder to the right of the main traveled
portion of a roadway if that operation is necessary and may be done
safely, but only:
(1) to stop, stand, or park;
(2) to accelerate before entering the main traveled
lane of traffic;
(3) to decelerate before making a right turn;
(4) to pass another vehicle that is slowing or stopped
on the main traveled portion of the highway, disabled, or preparing
to make a left turn;
(5) to allow another vehicle traveling faster to pass;
(6) as permitted or required by an official
traffic-control device; or
(7) to avoid a collision.
Something that really irritates me occurs on my commute into work. There is one patch where there is a 2 or 3 mile length that backs up to a slow crawl approaching an intersection.
This patch of two lane road is nice and wide, and very smoothly paved. There is a wide bike lane going both ways.
So when the traffic slows to a crawl, what do the cars do? They go as far to the curb as possible, as if they are going to get a chance to pass on the right, or maybe they're trying look ahead. This of course blocks the bike path (and there are riders, usually DF A types who have to cut back and forth in traffic.)
NNY
I sometimes have occasion to yell a similar phrase to motorists at one intersection on my commute. There is a left-turn lane at the intersection, and if there is a long line, the through traffic tends to move into the shoulder to be nice and let the left-turners by to get to their lane. Except now they are sitting in the shoulder, where I am trying to travel to get past them! :mad:
other signs I've seen around
"REMEMBER TO STOP AT STOP SIGNS"
"WHEN TURNING, YIELD TO ONCOMING TRAFFIC" (at an intersection where EVERY driver for some reason forgets the rules of the road and just turns left like they have the rightofway regardless of who is there, then they have the nerve to HONK at drivers that they cut off)
what the hell?
why are signs like this nessecary? are people this frigging stupid?
I see these a lot. My favorite sign (at the first intersection when leaving work) states "Wait For Green." I'm sorry, but I think my sign beats your sign but I don't have a picture :)
Yes many signs that tell you what you already know are redundant.
Kinda like the sign outside the library with the stick dude reading a book---just in case you were trying to get to the library and couldn't read
I first became aware of "Do Not Drive On Shoulder" signs about 30 years ago after both pedestrians and cyclists were killed in a couple of accidents in a short period of time on a local road. They put up signs all along that road.
Some people don't have any sense.
Almost daily I see people turn right on red in violation of big "No Right Turn on Red" signs. Almost daily I see people turn left on green without yielding to pedestrians in a marked crosswalk. I've even seen them fail to yield to blind pedestrians. I frequently see motorists make left turns in violation of "Left Turn Only On Left Arrow" signs. Almost daily I see people make right turns on red without stopping (even when there are pedestrians trying to cross the street with the signal).
Some people are idiots. That's why electical appliances come with the warning, "Do Not Use In The Bathtub."
well, the warnings on products are attempts to limit manufacturer liabilities in the face of tort reform and 'frivolous' lawsuits; a bic lighter has a paragraph of warnings to limit manufacturer liability,and to protect the manufacturer/supply chain from the consumer, and the consumer from themselves.
Traffic signs have a different impetus, but some ARE geared for lummoxes.
drivers are abhorrent in america. Stopsigns- the NEW yield. its awful out there. what is happenning in america? is it the "Tokyo Drift" phenomenon, the youth inculcation via "Grand Theft Auto," the cellphones and texting while driving?
I only see those signs in an area with horrible traffic. Basically the line for the traffic light is a mile long and there is no right turn lane. Instead of sitting at that light for 15 minutes or more they just scoot along the shoulder and make their right turn.
I remember on a 2-way highway in Northern Ontario seeing signs that said "Do Not Pass When Opposing Traffic Is Present."
No Kidding.
"DO NOT DRIVE ON SHOULDER"
as seen on Rhode Island Avenue this morning, a white sign with the above directive informing motorists that they should not drive on the shoulder.
come on!
doesn't anybody have any common sense anymore?
why does a sign like this even have to go up in the first place?
picture to follow if I can manage to get it off my camera phone.
It's appropriate for Rhode Island drivers. :)
I remember on a 2-way highway in Northern Ontario seeing signs that said "Do Not Pass When Opposing Traffic Is Present."
That one is a bit different. It's actually used on 3-lanehighways, where you have two lanes on one side and one on the other. The first side has priority use of both lanes, which is a good way to clear slow traffic. The other side is still allowed to pass, but only when there is no oncoming traffic, so it avoids the typical accident scenario often found on 3-lane highways in the 1940s and 1950: 2 cars in opposite directions trying to use the centre lane at the same time.
... used on 3-lane highways,... The first side has priority use of both lanes, ...How is first side defined in that context?
What if they put up a sign that said something like this instead:
YOU COULD HAVE RIDDEN YOUR BIKE TODAY INSTEAD
What if they put up a sign that said something like this instead:
YOU COULD HAVE RIDDEN YOUR BIKE TODAY INSTEAD
:beer: or this.....
YOU COULD HAVE RIDDEN YOUR BIKE TODAY, YOU COULD BE HAVING A GOOD DAY BY NOW !
On my street there is a speed bump at a stop sign - the stop sign was there first, and I guess the city felt that cars weren't even slowing down for the stop. :eek:
"DO NOT DRIVE ON SHOULDER"
as seen on Rhode Island Avenue this morning, a white sign with the above directive informing motorists that they should not drive on the shoulder.
come on!
doesn't anybody have any common sense anymore?
why does a sign like this even have to go up in the first place?
picture to follow if I can manage to get it off my camera phone.
I agree with the common sense thing. But could it be because people have been using the shoulder to pass on? Maybe there has been complaints about it. Is Rhode Island Ave a city roadway or in a more rural area?
http://www.chrisabraham.com/claymore-thumb.jpg
http://www.chrisabraham.com/claymore-thumb.jpg
That's a "best of thread" winner Chipcomman. :roflmao: :beer:
http://www.chrisabraham.com/claymore-thumb.jpg
Not unless you want to cut the tree down.
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