"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - Any Comments on Hamilton's performance?

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RockyMtnMerlin
03-15-07, 04:58 PM
Seems that he is not doing so well at the Tirreno-Adriatico. He is next to last in GC at 26 minutes behind.
Stallionforce
03-15-07, 05:14 PM
Well I thought he was going to suck big-time this year, and I posted just that sentiment here a while back. However, I thought he was doing a bit better than I had expected. My guess is that he might be sick at the moment? There's no way Tyler should be in last place like that.
Seems that he is not doing so well at the Tirreno-Adriatico. He is next to last in GC at 26 minutes behind.
maybe he really is clean :eek: !
ed rader
It's a lot harder when you have to use your own blood.
DiabloScott
03-15-07, 05:17 PM
Seems that he is not doing so well at the Tirreno-Adriatico. He is next to last in GC at 26 minutes behind.
A sure sign that they'll let him go when he attacks from the line tomorrow.
cat4ever
03-15-07, 05:23 PM
His twin brother isn't helping him pedal anymore?
spring races mean nothing to tour riders, Armstrong never took the spring races seriously.
however, Hamilton is getting long in the tooth, and years off racing cannot be replaced by training.
bvfrompc
03-15-07, 10:24 PM
Saving it up for the TT?
He's in the Long and Slow portion of his training?
Flat tire?
Good god, just abandon
TheKillerPenguin
03-15-07, 10:27 PM
What's amazing to me is he's been tearing up Mt. Washington the past few years, yet in the whole scheme of things he's a slow euro pro :eek:
roadwarrior
03-16-07, 04:56 AM
spring races mean nothing to tour riders, Armstrong never took the spring races seriously.
however, Hamilton is getting long in the tooth, and years off racing cannot be replaced by training.
Yes...as many out here have learned, there's a big difference between riding and racing, even for an experienced rider like Hamilton.
El Diablo Rojo
03-16-07, 06:52 AM
What's amazing to me is he's been tearing up Mt. Washington the past few years, yet in the whole scheme of things he's a slow euro pro :eek:
A good friend of my mine here in Austin was a competitive domestic pro. He went to Europe and spent two seasons there getting his butt handed to him. He said they are just racing at a different level over there.
the jury is still out. there hasn't been any mention of him, apart from the full results of each stage.
maybe he's sick, or maybe he was caught up in that big crash that took out roche, and broke niermann's ankle, and he's just trying to ride his was through it?
regardless: full props to him for not abandoning.
audiojan
03-16-07, 07:15 AM
Could just be that it's early in the season and he's in a heavy training phase... or it could be that he's just not ready to race with the pro's after all that time off... Time will tell...
Could just be that it's early in the season and he's in a heavy training phase... or it could be that he's just not ready to race with the pro's after all that time off
I would guess a little of both.
He seems like an extra-terrestrial!
Oh, wait...
RockyMtnMerlin
03-16-07, 12:15 PM
Note under his photo on cyclingnews.com, "Tyler Hamilton lost time on stage two, then crashed on stage three." No furher information was given. Looks like he lost 13 minutes today according to Procycling.com
Yes, he crashed. It has little to do with his performance and more about coming back from the crash.
And, haters, please. He paid his debt. How would you feel if you made a mistake, paid your debt, then heard people talking about it like that. Or, do you not make mistakes?
He seems like an extra-terrestrial!
Oh, wait...
He's actually Ferengi:
http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_photos/2004/09/23/inside-tyler.jpg
http://www.dfmk.hu/trektorbeam/cikkek/lexikon/ferengi.jpg
Cromulent
03-16-07, 01:32 PM
He's actually Ferengi:
http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_photos/2004/09/23/inside-tyler.jpg
http://www.dfmk.hu/trektorbeam/cikkek/lexikon/ferengi.jpg
Coffee through the nose. Thanks.
RockyMtnMerlin
03-16-07, 02:01 PM
Yes, he crashed. It has little to do with his performance and more about coming back from the crash.
And, haters, please. He paid his debt. How would you feel if you made a mistake, paid your debt, then heard people talking about it like that. Or, do you not make mistakes?
FWIW; Don't take it too personally, they treat nearly all procyclists in a similar manner on this forum. No slack. :eek:
harlond
03-16-07, 02:19 PM
The fact that he's right next to Cancellara in the classification would not seem to suggest anything truly amiss. We're not writing Cancellara off, are we?
El Diablo Rojo
03-16-07, 02:27 PM
Yes, he crashed. It has little to do with his performance and more about coming back from the crash.
And, haters, please. He paid his debt. How would you feel if you made a mistake, paid your debt, then heard people talking about it like that. Or, do you not make mistakes?
More like he swindled his fans to pay his debt. The guy was guilty, he knew it, and yet took hundreds of thousands of dollars from his supporters to pay for his legal bills all the while lying his arse off. Yeah I've lost all of respect I once had for him. He was at one point my favorite pro rider.
bvfrompc
03-16-07, 02:36 PM
And, haters, please. He paid his debt. How would you feel if you made a mistake, paid your debt, then heard people talking about it like that. Or, do you not make mistakes?
I do, usually followed by, "I'm sorry". My 4 year old has learned to say it, why can't Tyler?
I hate, because I did believe and he doesn't have what it takes to admit what he did.
El Diablo Rojo
03-16-07, 02:38 PM
I do, usually followed by, "I'm sorry". My 4 year old has learned to say it, why can't Tyler?
I hate, because I did believe and he doesn't have what it takes to admit what he did.
+100000
RockyMtnMerlin
03-17-07, 12:43 PM
Well he did better today. Only 3+ minutes behind the winner. But still, 124th today out of 160 finishers. I also see that Basso abandoned and Bettini crashed again and was taken to the hospital.
RockyMtnMerlin
03-18-07, 11:40 AM
148th at 4:38 in todays TT. They say he is suffering from the flu.
Now next to last in GC at 46"28" back. If he is that sick, wonder if it would not be better for him to rest instead of race?
bvfrompc
03-19-07, 08:48 AM
When Fast Freddy beats him in the TT, something ain't right, must be something that stress and hard work won't harm or they would have pulled him right?
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/mar07/mar19news2
Hard times for Tinkoff in Tirreno
Italian Continental Pro team Tinkoff is experiencing some difficulties in Tirreno-Adriatico. The team's best rider on Sunday's time trial was Evgeni Petrov, placing a respectable fifth and a consecutive eighth on GC, but several riders of his teammates are suffering from flu-like symptoms, with two riders already out of the race.
"Unfortunately we lost some of our key men," said Dmitri Konychev, sports director of Tinkoff. "The last to call out of the race was Pavel Brutt, we decided not to risk the young rider’s health, as he was suffering from fever and cold symptoms. Apparently there’s a bug going around in the peloton, there are quite a number of ill people riding on. Ruggero Marzoli’s decision to stop was also taken for health reasons."
Meanwhile, Tyler Hamilton is also feeling ill, but decided to continue the race. "Although Hamilton has similar problems as Brutt, he insists on staying in the race, as he absolutely needs racing miles to open up in future tours," Konychev continued. "We still have three riders who can aim high in [today's] mountain stage: Vasyl Kiriyenka, Ricardo Serrano and, of course, Evgeni Petrov, who returned to Top 10 after an impressive time trial, an event he’s traditionally strong at."
But the team's woes do not 'only' include illnesses - bad luck a few days ago added up to the struggle. Nevertheless, the riders' spirits are not broken. "I can't help feeling amazed at the way how our brave Spaniards continue on after two heavy crashes," commented Konychev, who kept a positive outlook. "Rici found himself in hospital with suspected shoulder-blade fracture; he was utterly beat up, he still can't get out of the saddle and rides seated down - every rider knows what it means to pedal up short steep climbs like that. Yet Serrano says: 'I can't give up, the team believes in me.' I also think that we have good chances to go up a couple of positions in general standings with Petrov and contest the green climber’s jersey with Commesso."
TheKillerPenguin
03-19-07, 08:59 AM
ahh, that makes sense. I guess I'll hold off judgment until his next race.
bbattle
03-19-07, 11:00 AM
The fact that he's right next to Cancellara in the classification would not seem to suggest anything truly amiss. We're not writing Cancellara off, are we?
Cancellara? That has-been? What has he done for us lately?
RockyMtnMerlin
03-19-07, 03:51 PM
Hamilton crashed again today (19th) and later decided to abandon.
patentcad
03-19-07, 04:27 PM
Riding 5 hours daily through the Rocky Mtns. ain't the same as racing in the UCI. And Hamilton's older now too. He'll come around. Give him a chance.
RockyMtnMerlin
03-28-07, 11:03 AM
Bumped this back up to the top. In the Coppi-Bartali he is now dead last at just over 23 minutes back. Looks like he did not finish with the team in the TTT yesterday and lost another 21 minutes today. Wonder if he crashed again or is still sick. In any event, things are not going well for him this spring.
RockyMtnMerlin
03-30-07, 01:02 PM
DNS today's race
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