ratebeer
03-20-07, 05:40 PM
There was a thread in Road about average speed and that found its way into in a small watts versus avg speed spat. After some thought, it really seems that as far as road racing goes -- to the exclusion of time trials, watts and average times/speeds are very similar metrics and don't include the most important element of road racing -- recovery times after anaerobic work.
I think it's no surprise that road racers tend not to find a lot of value in average speed or time for a certain course length. It makes sense when pack riding tactics and the associated drop in wind resistance is a major factor in race outcomes. Stats like how many watts someone can sustain for an hour become a lot less useful than better understanding how a hypothetical rider riding in a fast moving group of riders, can move up to a lead group and sustain the lead group's pace.
In this example, the load is high, then increases very high then decreases to a plateau above the initial load. The success of the rider in holding on to this lead group depends on his ability to recover from the heavier load while at the tail end of the lead group. This is a very common transition in road riding and really separates the average from better riders.
1. How do you train for this kind of recovery? Is this why many interval training workouts keep the rest periods short?
2. Is there a standard measurement for this kind of activity? It would seem quantifying one's ability to recover after a hill attack or other breakaway would be useful.
I think it's no surprise that road racers tend not to find a lot of value in average speed or time for a certain course length. It makes sense when pack riding tactics and the associated drop in wind resistance is a major factor in race outcomes. Stats like how many watts someone can sustain for an hour become a lot less useful than better understanding how a hypothetical rider riding in a fast moving group of riders, can move up to a lead group and sustain the lead group's pace.
In this example, the load is high, then increases very high then decreases to a plateau above the initial load. The success of the rider in holding on to this lead group depends on his ability to recover from the heavier load while at the tail end of the lead group. This is a very common transition in road riding and really separates the average from better riders.
1. How do you train for this kind of recovery? Is this why many interval training workouts keep the rest periods short?
2. Is there a standard measurement for this kind of activity? It would seem quantifying one's ability to recover after a hill attack or other breakaway would be useful.
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