View Full Version : Anybody here have comments about this?
Siu Blue Wind
03-20-07, 07:40 PM
http://www.moots.com/bicycle.php?ID=5
Clicky to the frame on the right to see the YBB version.
wethepeople
03-20-07, 08:42 PM
Looks sexy, looks expensive.
Get it.
CaptMatt15
03-20-07, 09:18 PM
Moots has made a YBB for a while, don't see why it wouldn't work for Cyclocross...
I'll Take 2.
Siu Blue Wind
03-20-07, 11:27 PM
Looks sexy, looks expensive.
Get it.
Shhhhhhhhhh WTP. You didn't see me here. ;)
looks like a gray bike to me. is that what you are looking for?
Siu Blue Wind
03-21-07, 01:03 AM
Not really. More Ti colored.
Looks sexy, looks expensive.
Get it.
+1 .... then get one for me. :eek:
jfmckenna
03-21-07, 09:56 AM
http://www.moots.com/bicycle.php?ID=5
Clicky to the frame on the right to see the YBB version.
SIU I picked up a used Moots road frame last month and it is by far the best bike I ever have or will own. I think Ti would be an incredible frame for cross. GET IT!
So whadaya gonna do next? Link me to the Ferrari website and say "hey, any comments about this?". I'll be poking around in the "Show us your cross bike" thread to look at bikes I can actually afford...
(BTW, that Moots is candy shop sweet. When I get my seven-figure raise, I'll probably pick one up)
Siu Blue Wind
03-21-07, 11:56 PM
SIU I picked up a used Moots road frame last month and it is by far the best bike I ever have or will own. I think Ti would be an incredible frame for cross. GET IT!
Is it too flexy? I have a bulging disk in my back and the position of anything not mtn is bad. Hence the desire for a cross bike.
I was considering short stem and different position of the bars.
I tried to ride a Specialized Dolce Elite but it was waaaay too harsh for me.
Siu Blue Wind
03-21-07, 11:58 PM
So whadaya gonna do next? Link me to the Ferrari website and say "hey, any comments about this?". I'll be poking around in the "Show us your cross bike" thread to look at bikes I can actually afford...
(BTW, that Moots is candy shop sweet. When I get my seven-figure raise, I'll probably pick one up)
I hope you do then you can give me comments! :D ;)
wethepeople
03-22-07, 02:51 AM
Shhhhhhhhhh WTP. You didn't see me here. ;)
Pffft, I see all. I venture to every part of this site.
jfmckenna
03-22-07, 07:07 AM
Is it too flexy? I have a bulging disk in my back and the position of anything not mtn is bad. Hence the desire for a cross bike.
I was considering short stem and different position of the bars.
I tried to ride a Specialized Dolce Elite but it was waaaay too harsh for me.
I don't understand what you mean -"position of anything not mtn is bad." ?
You mean set up like a mountain bike? I don't know much about that. But My Moots is more flexy then the AL/Carbon bike I was riding before but not quite as flexy as my older steel frames. So IMO it's got just the right flex. This is why I like it so much. I don't buy into the whole flexy frames loose energy transfer debate. I mean at least for me if I loose 1 watt in a sprint to my frame it won't make up for the difference of being able to ride 90 miles in comfort and experience no fatigue from a harsh riding frame. I rode this Moots 110 miles last Sunday and honestly I never felt better after a long ride like that before.
The position of a cross bike tends to be more upright. The saddle is typically a hair lower and the bars a hair higher but YMMV. To each their own. I would think that having a frame with some flex in it would be better on your back.
Siu Blue Wind
03-22-07, 09:43 PM
By bad I mean I can't really "lean" too much or else it puts pressure on the part of the disk that is weak. Mtn riding keeps me more upright, and the pressure is more evenly dispersed upon the disk as a whole. Thank you for pointing out about the more upright position of a cross bike. You are really helping me here!!
The Moots is on the more costly side but I was thinking more of tube material than "bling".
endform
03-23-07, 12:18 AM
It really depends on how you set it up, but keep in mind it's not going to be any easier (most likely) to set up with high bars as any standard road bike. You are going to be leaning unless you get some goofy bars. Why not get a Ti mtn bike (make it rigid if that's what you want, there are Ti forks made too).
Siu Blue Wind
03-23-07, 08:40 AM
I have a couple of mtn bikes currently and for some reason started to eye road bikes. I've tried a Specialized Dolce Elite with carbon and Zertz,-blah blah-but still found it pretty hard on me. That is when I started considering the Cross bikes. I'm wanting more efficiency on paved roads rather than trying to keep up with my friends on fat tired heavy bikes.
Plus I thought I could get away with Lycra more if I wasn't on a mtb....;) (joking! :p )
jfmckenna
03-23-07, 10:03 AM
One thing you may want to consider if you are willing to shell out a lot of cash is a custom frame. I don't know much about it but I have heard that some custom builders take into consideration all these factors including flexability, type of riding, pain issues ect and come up with an ideal geometry.
I have been lucky to get along with stock frames for now.
isotopesope
03-23-07, 10:26 AM
what about a geared 29er? you could swap tires out depending on whether you want fat tires for trails or skinny tires for road or cross type riding. my friend has a ss moots 29er and absolutely loves it... obviously.
Siu Blue Wind
03-23-07, 11:40 AM
One thing you may want to consider if you are willing to shell out a lot of cash is a custom frame. I don't know much about it but I have heard that some custom builders take into consideration all these factors including flexability, type of riding, pain issues ect and come up with an ideal geometry.
I have been lucky to get along with stock frames for now.
The link in the first post is what I was thinking in regards to custom. Tonite I'm leaving for Colorado and I have an appt in the morning to get fitted.
Siu Blue Wind
03-23-07, 11:41 AM
what about a geared 29er? you could swap tires out depending on whether you want fat tires for trails or skinny tires for road or cross type riding. my friend has a ss moots 29er and absolutely loves it... obviously.
I'm 5'5" with an inseam of 30". Would that be too big? I thought 29ers were more for the longer legged.
isotopesope
03-23-07, 12:10 PM
hmmm... you might be ok, especially if it's going to be custom and it's going to be made by moots! i think you might be *just* tall enough to pull it off. though some people do think if a 29 frame is smaller and not set up right, you sit IN the bike, rather than on it.
however, some builders, don mcclung for instance, have successfully made small 29"ers by curving the seat tube to get the rear wheel more underneath the saddle... but then in that instance, the ybb softtail might be problematic. i've also seen some small framed 29's with split seat tubes that work well too.
have you tried riding a 'cross bike with risers or flatbars? that might help you not feel so leaned over too.
enjoy your stay in beautiful colorado!! steamboat is gorgeous.
jfmckenna
03-26-07, 02:41 PM
The link in the first post is what I was thinking in regards to custom. Tonite I'm leaving for Colorado and I have an appt in the morning to get fitted.
Well spare no expense and get it done right :)
I think you will love it. And if you get one please post pics...
urodacus
04-17-07, 11:55 AM
this has gotta get a prize for the least informative thread title ever.
nice bike tho.
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