"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - When to use an Enervit Cheer Pack (aka Crack Pack)

Anybody here use them? Have heard enough things about the, that I got curious, and picked up a box of 5.

Thing is, I don't see any point wasting them on my 1 hour+6 lpas races. I'll be doing a 4.5 hour group ride with 5 other guys on Sunday (and I have the feeling i'll be doing more than my fair share of work). Perhaps that's the place to try it for the first time?

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i've heard the description "liquid crack" used to describe that stuff in the past.

Please let us know what you think about it.

B.

i've heard the description "liquid crack" used to describe that stuff in the past.

Please let us know what you think about it.

B.

precisely why i bought it.

I fill my HAMMER gel flask with the Cheer Pack and the rest with HAMMER raspberry gel. I drink one half right before the start and the other about 2 laps from the end. The buzz is sublime.

I read somewhere that it's a "quick-energy" product and the buzz only lasts for 20 minutes or so. Sounds like a fun 20 minutes, but it might be better suited for short races rather than longer group rides.

I fill my HAMMER gel flask with the Cheer Pack and the rest with HAMMER raspberry gel. I drink one half right before the start and the other about 2 laps from the end. The buzz is sublime.

:rubbing hands in glee with anticipation:

Always use a new supplament on a training ride first. Then you can observe its effects without costing you a race should your body not like it.

Always use a new supplament on a training ride first. Then you can observe its effects without costing you a race should your body not like it.

please read the OP:


Thing is, I don't see any point wasting them on my 1 hour+6 lpas races. I'll be doing a 4.5 hour group ride with 5 other guys on Sunday (and I have the feeling i'll be doing more than my fair share of work). Perhaps that's the place to try it for the first time?

as far as the nutritional facts go there is nothing special about it, sugar water and a b vitaimin but the reviews sound interesting. Please update Botto

I don't see why the cheerpack should be that great, its just a gel greater than avg amount of carb in it and some b vitamins. I've ridden with emergen C in bottles before and I notice zero diff from additional b vitamins. caffiene or electrolytes is different story however.

http://www.enervitusa.com/energy.html#d

as far as the nutritional facts go there is nothing special about it, sugar water and a b vitaimin but the reviews sound interesting. Please update Botto

perhaps on sunday.

feeling a little stingy with my stash of 5 packets (enervit doesn't have a NL distributor).

Doubt it is much better / different than a Redbull.

I fill my HAMMER gel flask with the Cheer Pack and the rest with HAMMER raspberry gel. I drink one half right before the start and the other about 2 laps from the end. The buzz is sublime.

the entire flask, so like the equivalent of 3ish gel packs?

Doubt it is much better / different than a Redbull.

probably tastes better, and the added bonus is that there's no need to drop X to enjoy it.

I tried the Enervitene Cheer Pack, and I have to say it kinda made me feel like crap. After the ride I read the HEED label (the other stuff I drank on the ride) and it said not to use it in combo with other products that have simple carbs (like Enervitene) because you could have "untoward side effects." Maybe that was what I felt.

Doubt it is much better / different than a Redbull.

and you'd be wrong.

I've used this now in six consecutive races with no bad effects. I find that it give me a lift..a boost so to speak with out the jittery feeling or elevated HR that I've got from energy drinks. I also have not experienced th major crash that I've had with energy drinks or Coca Cola. But like all things bike related you may have a different result, I'm just saying it works great for me.

I tried the Enervitene Cheer Pack, and I have to say it kinda made me feel like crap. After the ride I read the HEED label (the other stuff I drank on the ride) and it said not to use it in combo with other products that have simple carbs (like Enervitene) because you could have "untoward side effects." Maybe that was what I felt.

I use HEED and Recoverite as well as the HAMMER gel with the Cheer Packs with no ill affects. Again YMMV

I've used this now in six consecutive races with no bad effects. I find that it give me a lift..a boost so to speak with out the jittery feeling or elevated HR that I've got from energy drinks. I also have not experienced th major crash that I've had with energy drinks or Coca Cola. But like all things bike related you may have a different result, I'm just saying it works great for me.

Well you have convinced me to try it.

Price: 1 Packet $4.69

Call me cheap, but I require more convincing for 70ml worth of cheer.

Well you have convinced me to try it.

Then my work here is done.

I tried the Enervitene Cheer Pack, and I have to say it kinda made me feel like crap. After the ride I read the HEED label (the other stuff I drank on the ride) and it said not to use it in combo with other products that have simple carbs (like Enervitene) because you could have "untoward side effects." Maybe that was what I felt.

I used HEED products along with an oatmeal creme pie - baaad news. Worst I've ever felt.
Interested in hearing more about the Enervitene. The LBS has it, but I've not tried it. EDR has me intrigued. Let us know how it works for you botto.

Use it on the group ride.

Nothing like some caffeinated goodness. I always ride better when I'm not simply wired on coffee/red bull but strung out like Rick James.

Some people don't like the feeling, but it's always worked well for me.

I tried the Enervitene Cheer Pack, and I have to say it kinda made me feel like crap. After the ride I read the HEED label (the other stuff I drank on the ride) and it said not to use it in combo with other products that have simple carbs (like Enervitene) because you could have "untoward side effects." Maybe that was what I felt.


yeah, I've always wondered about that label. From a MD's perspective what the bleep is that all about? made me wonder about using it.

Slightly off topic, but you guys should try an on bike drink call eload http://www.eload.net/eMedia.htm
It's really good stuff and works better than anything I've tried before. My shop is carrying it again so I'll be back to using it instead of the HEED.

please read the OP:


Anybody here use them? Have heard enough things about the, that I got curious, and picked up a box of 5.

Thing is, I don't see any point wasting them on my 1 hour+6 lpas races. I'll be doing a 4.5 hour group ride with 5 other guys on Sunday (and I have the feeling i'll be doing more than my fair share of work). Perhaps that's the place to try it for the first time?

Suggestions from 'users'?
I was trying to answer that question. Perhaps if I used Botto language you'd understand, so here it goes again...

Anybody here use them? Have heard enough things about the, that I got curious, and picked up a box of 5.

Thing is, I don't see any point wasting them on my 1 hour+6 lpas races. I'll be doing a 4.5 hour group ride with 5 other guys on Sunday (and I have the feeling i'll be doing more than my fair share of work). Perhaps that's the place to try it for the first time?

Suggestions from 'users'?
Yes

Slightly off topic, but you guys should try an on bike drink call eload http://www.eload.net/eMedia.htm
It's really good stuff and works better than anything I've tried before. My shop is carrying it again so I'll be back to using it instead of the HEED.

Yup, it is a Canadian product. A lot of the tri guys use it up here, and they used to sponsor Iron Man Canada. A Great product. Tastes like absolute $hit unless it's really hot and you've been sweating; then it's ambrosia.

Love the stuff, and when it gets really hot I wouldn't use anything else.

Yup, it is a Canadian product. A lot of the tri guys use it up here, and they used to sponsor Iron Man Canada. A Great product. Tastes like absolute $hit unless it's really hot and you've been sweating; then it's ambrosia.

Love the stuff, and when it gets really hot I wouldn't use anything else.

The stuff has been a life saver for me here in Austin, the summers are just brutal here. I don't mind the taste of the Lemon flavor but the fruit punch is just awful.

The stuff has been a life saver for me here in Austin, the summers are just brutal here. I don't mind the taste of the Lemon flavor but the fruit punch is just awful.

what's wrong with water?

what's wrong with water?


Nothing, it works wonders as an mixing agent for eload.

go to your local gym and check out the stuff they have there. Redline, lipodrene, etc... If its borderline illegal speed-type products you are looking for, its a good place to start.

So botto, I have to assume you've had time to try the Envervit by now. What do you think? I just picked one up to try.

I have to say, I don't see anything magical in the ingredients list: fructose syrup, glucose syrup, water, orange flavour, lemon oil. No caffeine or other "buzzy" stuff as in Red Bull.

I wonder if Glutose (http://www.paddocklabs.com/glutose.html) would have the same effect. It's 40% dextrose gel (marketed for medical purposes with diabetics). It's pretty awful, too.

Anybody here use them? Have heard enough things about the, that I got curious, and picked up a box of 5.

Thing is, I don't see any point wasting them on my 1 hour+6 lpas races. I'll be doing a 4.5 hour group ride with 5 other guys on Sunday (and I have the feeling i'll be doing more than my fair share of work). Perhaps that's the place to try it for the first time?

Suggestions from 'users'?

Which ones did you get? There are two types. One is orange flavored and has 120 cals and 30g of carbs. Another is cola flavored and has 240 cals and 60g of carbs. Same amount of liquid. Check the back of the package.

My guess is that yours are the orange ones. I pointed out the differences to our folks at the shop and no one had looked at the nutritional statement on the package.

The second one is like an afterburner, but due to the high carb content made me feel bloated.

BTW...here's some usage information. (http://www.enervitusa.com/systems.html)

This guy could use some of that crack pack

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/732827/2/istockphoto_732827_bikers_plumbing.jpg

Even more slightly off topic. I bought some No-Xplode and tried it during training. I got all jacked up and had a kick-arse time. I'm going to try it again soon to see if it's the product or my mind telling me it was working. More later. Sorry for the hijack.

And I'll get me some crack pack soon to try that as well.

Which ones did you get? There are two types. One is orange flavored and has 120 cals and 30g of carbs. Another is cola flavored and has 240 cals and 60g of carbs. Same amount of liquid. Check the back of the package.

My guess is that yours are the orange ones. I pointed out the differences to our folks at the shop and no one had looked at the nutritional statement on the package.

The second one is like an afterburner, but due to the high carb content made me feel bloated.

BTW...here's some usage information. (http://www.enervitusa.com/systems.html)

good call. got the 120 cal ones. still haven't tried it yet. afterburner is what i'm looking for. ;)

good call. got the 120 cal ones. still haven't tried it yet. afterburner is what i'm looking for. ;)

You're probably better off with actual crack. Don't get a CF pipe, though--it might melt. :D

This guy could use some of that crack pack

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/732827/2/istockphoto_732827_bikers_plumbing.jpg


No he's packing enough crack. He needs some spackle. :D

Which ones did you get? There are two types. One is orange flavored and has 120 cals and 30g of carbs. Another is cola flavored and has 240 cals and 60g of carbs. Same amount of liquid. Check the back of the package.

My guess is that yours are the orange ones. I pointed out the differences to our folks at the shop and no one had looked at the nutritional statement on the package.

The second one is like an afterburner, but due to the high carb content made me feel bloated.

BTW...here's some usage information. (http://www.enervitusa.com/systems.html)


Where do you find cola, On their website there is "original" and "orange"... when you pull up the nutrient facts they are the same:

http://www.enervitusa.com/energy.html#e (scroll down to the Cheer pack and click nutrient facts)

Enervitene Cheerpack
Original Orange
Serving size 60 ml 60 ml
Calories 120 120
Carbohydrates 30g 30g
Fat 0
Protein 0
Vitamin B6 20% RDA 20% RDA
Vitamin C 25% RDA 25% RDA
Niacin 18% RDA 18% RDA
Pantothenic acid 10% RDA 10% RDA
Riboflavin 18% RDA 18% RDA
Thiamin 14% RDA 14% RDA

Where do you find cola, On their website there is "original" and "orange"... when you pull up the nutrient facts they are the same:

http://www.enervitusa.com/energy.html#e (scroll down to the Cheer pack and click nutrient facts)

Enervitene Cheerpack
Original Orange
Serving size 60 ml 60 ml
Calories 120 120
Carbohydrates 30g 30g
Fat 0
Protein 0
Vitamin B6 20% RDA 20% RDA
Vitamin C 25% RDA 25% RDA
Niacin 18% RDA 18% RDA
Pantothenic acid 10% RDA 10% RDA
Riboflavin 18% RDA 18% RDA
Thiamin 14% RDA 14% RDA

I saw that too...but we've got a few boxes of them in the store so I don't know if they aren't making that anymore or not. We carried Evervit last year and it just did not sell well at all. We spent too much time explaining the "System" to make it worth it. But I've got a couple of the mega dose packs laying around somewhere. It was double the cals and carbs of the orange pack. One guy I know lived on the megas in a 24 hour race.
Maybe they pulled the product. I'll have to check.

BTW...I am using First Endurance products a lot, and I have to say they are outstanding. The peanut butter/chocolate chip bars are great.

You're probably better off with actual crack. Don't get a CF pipe, though--it might melt. :D

good point. how about a prescription? ;)