Alt Bike Culture - Underslung Chopper

Tired of those choppers where the rider is ABOVE the fork, I designed a bike where the fork came down over the rider's head. This project is codenamed "Doomed Megachopolis" and it is incomplete. Here is the first sneak peek:

http://non.primate.net/chopper/doomed.jpg

Holy S*** JP !!
You and the RatPatrolers are true bicycular Renaissance Men !!
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i think it should be called codename: booger welds

i think it should be called codename: booger welds


I'm sure the welds are much finer on your underslung fatback chopper.

You should do some research on the term "rat" as it applies to custom vehicles.

Pretty damn sweet, although I am pretty interested on how you got that car tire on the back to mount up.

I'm sure the welds are much finer on your underslung fatback chopper.

You should do some research on the term "rat" as it applies to custom vehicles.
:lol:

Rat =/= unsafe. Booger welds usually have minimal... or excessive penetration. Therefore making them more prone to catrastrophic failure. Sorry, I don't want my stuff fallin' apart.

:lol:

Rat =/= unsafe. Booger welds usually have minimal... or excessive penetration. Therefore making them more prone to catrastrophic failure. Sorry, I don't want my stuff fallin' apart.


Well, this sort of weinerism would be appropriate in a welding forum, but this is an alt bike forum. So so far the score is Johnny = 1, Welding Weiners = 0.

C'mon Johnny quit your justifications and rationalizations and go learn to weld. Booger welds are ok if you not trusting your life to it, but if my ass is on the line, I want a decent weld thank you very much.

If there's any place a decent weld is required it's on an alt bike. I'd hate like hell to be on top of a tall bike and have the frame turn to matchsticks because some lhacksaw wizard figured out how to make sparks with an arc welder and that sometimes those sparks left little globs of metal behind... Ooops, sometimes it makes holes too. Oh well the metal is kinda stuck together, let me see if I can make another glob over here, that should do it.

I appreciate alt bikes just as much as the next person, I've built them too. Don't be hatin' safe metal joinery.

Johnny = 0, Pragmatic safety = 1 :

:p

How'd you like this to happen to your front wheel at speed?

http://hotimg2.fotki.com/b/65_141/157_78/rimpiece2.jpg

shux, crappy welds are the new pink, yo. Haven't you heard?

Those splatter blobs are "abstract".

And when it breaks, we just call it a "folder" -- perfect for public transport on your ride to the ER!



On a further note, my ****ty ass welding technology -- a shwinn fork chopped 4" shorter, butted not sleeved, just won the zoobomb race on it's virgin run last night. Booya!

yeah, just chalk crappy workmanship up to "free thinking" and not "crappy workmanship"


anything worth doing, is worth doing right. or well, was it?

Anyways, there are tons of ratbikers and hot rodders who weld like freakin artists. Take the time to learn, it doesn't have to be crappy to be "alt".

It takes good equipment and skill to make nice looking welds, some of us don't have either. Just because a weld is ugly doesn't mean it won't do the job. Most of my welds look like eagle crap and none of them have ever broken. Besides, freak bikes have f*** all to do with "pragmatic" anything, let alone "Pragmatic safety."

"Look ma, no hands!"




"Look ma, no teeth."

OMG gang mentality.


In any case, unless welds are really garbage, I doubt they'd just fall apart with no sign of stress.
And BTW, how does that wheel have anything to do with frame welding?

No offense, but obviously some people cant grasp the RaT Patrol philosophy.
The Rat PAtrolers, Chvnk666 and zoobombers are the real world heros
of bicycling, not the other guy who is on Tv all the time. Opinions of welding shouldnt even enter into any discussions about them and probably wouldnt if you've ever seen the cool stuff they do.

Part of the fun is working with alt materials. I hear C.H.V.N.K. 666 uses wire clothes hangers instead of real welding rods. Look ma, no flux!!!

am i missing something? didn't he say the bike wasn't done?

how do you know his intentions WHEN IT'S NOT EVEN FINISHED?

seriously, take your frustrations out on the man, not on fellow bike riders.

my .02

i never implied he was "intending" to make some crappy welds, I STATED that he had already done so. but hey, they're your teeth! I truly can't believe you are arguing that bad welds are better. You rat guys sure know your stuff :D

Here's some "equipment" you should try for the next super innovative "build"

http://www.hobbylinc.com/gr/jbw/jbw8272.jpg

I donno, I use a stick welder and do "booger" welds, I've only broken one weld which was totally my fault (forgot to take the slag off and thought it was solid) it wasn't an issue, I biked home 12 miles with a broken frame because the other welds held the bike together. I've got a small fleet of freakbikes on the road, all done with an arc welder, my friends do the same... if you spend a little time practicing and learn the basics, you should be fine.

i never implied he was "intending" to make some crappy welds, I STATED that he had already done so. but hey, they're your teeth! I truly can't believe you are arguing that bad welds are better. You rat guys sure know your stuff :D

Here's some "equipment" you should try for the next super innovative "build"

http://www.hobbylinc.com/gr/jbw/jbw8272.jpg
That's just the back-up plan.
(not being mean, I just like Jb weld).

maybe instead of flaming people, you could offer something constructive. the jb weld thing is ridiculous. seriously, grow up, commend people for their ideas, instead of using high school bully tactics.

i've seen tack welds that look like that. as in weld that haven't been finished?

no one argued bad welds are better, or at least I didn't.

show off your awesome frame building welds, i'd like to see them.

I'm still not seeing any bikes from you people. Why are you hanging out on this forum? I'm sure there are lots of welding forums where other snobs can one-up each other about craftsmanship. This is a forum about the discussion of alt bikes. My alt bike rules, you have none. You are feeling inadequate. You diss my welds (as if I weld the same way at work as I do when I'm making a mad-max monster bike). Build a bike or shut up.

actually, I show up on this forums because it is not excluded from the "View new posts" button, and because ratbikers are not "special" or "immune from stupidity" as we have proven on this post.

But I am surprised you get paid to weld...

Constructive criticism? Weld better, its safer. Although not as punk rawk.

maybe snobby, but I at least two-upped you.

again clancy, lets see the bikes you've welded? let me guess, you make vanilla bicycles? mmhmm. put your money where your mouth is.

sorry johnny, i guess there are *******s everywhere.

have you checked out http://www.ratrodbikes.com (http://www.ratrodbike.com)?

OMG gang mentality.


In any case, unless welds are really garbage, I doubt they'd just fall apart with no sign of stress.
And BTW, how does that wheel have anything to do with frame welding?
Here, let me connect the dots.

Wheel picture + catastrophic failure = Severe bodily injury.

Be it booger welds or metal fatigue, I want to be no where nere when the ***** lets loose.

I'm still not seeing any bikes from you people. Why are you hanging out on this forum? I'm sure there are lots of welding forums where other snobs can one-up each other about craftsmanship. This is a forum about the discussion of alt bikes. My alt bike rules, you have none. You are feeling inadequate. You diss my welds (as if I weld the same way at work as I do when I'm making a mad-max monster bike). You expose yourselves as losers. Build a bike or shut up.
Ever had a bike in BRn'K? I have about 4 years ago

http://staceyrhymer.freeservers.com/bent01.jpg

http://staceyrhymer.freeservers.com/bent12.jpg

http://staceyrhymer.freeservers.com/bent03.jpg

Ok, happy? I've put up, you gonna shaddup?

Ya know Johnny, it's never been personal, it's always been the welds.

Here, let me connect the dots.

Wheel picture + catastrophic failure = Severe bodily injury.

Be it booger welds or metal fatigue, I want to be no where nere when the ***** lets loose.
But it still has nothing to do with frame welding.

Ok, happy? I've put up, you gonna shaddup?


Yes, your welds do look nice. Congrats. That bike is nice and all, but it isn't exactly the most "alt" thing I have ever seen.

But it still has nothing to do with frame welding.
:rolleyes:

Yes, your welds do look nice. Congrats. That bike is nice and all, but it isn't exactly the most "alt" thing I have ever seen.

Chopped, dropped, stretched, lifted, and otherwise cut up and put back together. The art and science of choppers, cruisers, lowriders and the vast world of mutant bicycles.

My example qualifies on at least three of the criteria. Sucks for you that you can't appreciate it for what it is.

I don't see squat...this is what Stacey's picture looks like to me:

http://staceyrhymer.freeservers.com/bent03.jpg

so everyone who posts in alt welds frames?

Now you're just talking out your a$$e$.

I don't see squat...this is what Stacey's picture looks like to me:

http://staceyrhymer.freeservers.com/bent03.jpg
Right click, view image.

My example qualifies on at least three of the criteria. Sucks for you that you can't appreciate it for what it is.


I didn't say it wasn't cool. I do appreciate it for what it is: a really neat, well built, homemade recumbent. I'd be proud as hell if I could make something like that, and I'd ride it like crazy too.

I'm just sayin that what JP does is the essence of what alt bikes are to me. Your bike, cool as it is, is not the most alt thing in the universe.

Right click, view image.
I don't get that option with a right click.

I don't get that option with a right click.

That server doesn't allow remote linking. Right click, select properties, copy and paste the url in the browser window. (if you're using ie)

http://staceyrhymer.freeservers.com/bent03.jpg
Click it, change the number in the URL to view the others.

I didn't say it wasn't cool. I do appreciate it for what it is: a really neat, well built, homemade recumbent. I'd be proud as hell if I could make something like that, and I'd ride it like crazy too.

I'm just sayin that what JP does is the essence of what alt bikes are to me. Your bike, cool as it is, is not the most alt thing in the universe.


Stay on topic will ya!?!?! I never claimed it was the epitome of alt bike. The challenge was to show my work, I did.

I still can't see the pics...

stacey: why are you throwing all the attitude? it's just the internet, calm down.

The internet is held together by sh!ty welds. It's a vile bitçh, but it sure is fun sometimes!

No *****!

Stay on topic will ya!?!?! I never claimed it was the epitome of alt bike. The challenge was to show my work, I did. Now STFU.
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6414/chainsaw2fk6.jpg
My picture is more civil then you.

No *****!

Stay on topic will ya!?!?! I never claimed it was the epitome of alt bike. The challenge was to show my work, I did. Now STFU.

Wow. You really need to go ride your bike and chill.

Can't people just be supportive and say, "Hey, that's a really cool looking bike, Johnny. Good work!"

If you think there are huge safety issues then it's a good thing your the one riding it.

Hey, that's a really cool looking bike, Johnny. Good work!

Oh, I understand now, you're a fat recumbent weird-beard who built one bike four years ago. This conversation is over. Please stay away from the alt-bike forum.

Oh, I understand now, you're a fat recumbent weird-beard who built one bike four years ago. This conversation is over. Please stay away from the alt-bike forum.
You understand nothing.

How about you pucker up and plant one, eh Johnny?

oh man, this is never ending.

C'mon people.

Stacey, chill out for christs sake, he posted a cool bike and you flip at him. Go ride your bike and forget about this mess.

Johnny, I still think it kicks ass, how is the rear wheel attached?

This is digressing to Roadie and A&S level........
Lets police ourselves :o
JP always has great stuff to contribute.....I dont want him
to stop !

heh. crazy

No *****!

Stay on topic will ya!?!?! I never claimed it was the epitome of alt bike. The challenge was to show my work, I did. Now STFU.


How 'bout you stay on topic? The topic wasn't welds to begin with anyway, it was about how underslung choppers suck. I thought about STFUing but just isn't in my nature, sorry.

When I said "Yes, your welds do look nice. Congrats. That bike is nice and all..." it was meant to sound a little sarcastic. I was trolling a little and it was juvinile, I'm sorry. I did mean it when I said "I do appreciate it for what it is: a really neat, well built, homemade recumbent. I'd be proud as hell if I could make something like that, and I'd ride it like crazy too." I don't the tone of that post was at all sarcastic.

And that-
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6414/chainsaw2fk6.jpg
is awesome. Do you mind if I use it as an avatar?