Foo - How tall would this mountain be?

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Tom Stormcrowe
03-23-07, 07:01 PM
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You start at sea level. 0 feet elevation, I know the answer, do you?
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Jerseysbest
03-23-07, 07:16 PM
I know how to figure it out, I just don't feel like it

glenng
03-23-07, 07:16 PM
22.5 miles...I just did that ride on Wednesday at 400 watts


Jerseysbest
03-23-07, 07:17 PM
I know how to figure it out, I just don't feel like it

Man, I'm taking the GRE's soon, I should at least tryyyy...

Tom Stormcrowe
03-23-07, 07:17 PM
22.5 miles...I just did that ride on Wednesday at 400 watts
Did the air get a bit thin?:eek:

glenng
03-23-07, 07:18 PM
But I did get a little winded at 118,800 feet elevation. I broke the sound barier on the decent:D

Tom Stormcrowe
03-23-07, 07:30 PM
But I did get a little winded at 118,800 feet elevation. I broke the sound barier on the decent:D
I hope you were wearing Ti Heat shield and were on a Ti bike!:p That descent must have been.......meteoric!http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d186/LuvlyLass/Smileys/36_2_39.gifhttp://forum.gamestar.de/gspinboard/images/smilies/atomrofl.gif

jschen
03-23-07, 07:33 PM
As much as I enjoy climbing, I think I'll pass on this climb. I think I'll pass on the descent, too. I've done 56 MPH, and I think 70 MPH on a bike is about the max I'll ever allow myself to do.

Tom Stormcrowe
03-23-07, 07:36 PM
As much as I enjoy climbing, I think I'll pass on this climb. I think I'll pass on the descent, too. I've done 56 MPH, and I think 70 MPH on a bike is about the max I'll ever allow myself to do.
You mean you don't want to go down a hill so fast you leave an incandescent plasma trail behind you?:eek: You're no fun!:D

jschen
03-23-07, 07:41 PM
You mean you don't want to go down a hill so fast you leave an incandescent plasma trail behind you?:eek: You're no fun!:D
No thanks. I'd like to survive the trip. :o

glenng
03-23-07, 07:41 PM
As much as I enjoy climbing, I think I'll pass on this climb. I think I'll pass on the descent, too. I've done 56 MPH, and I think 70 MPH on a bike is about the max I'll ever allow myself to do.
Back to reality...The fastest I`ve done is 63mph...I had help because a van passed me while I was at 45mph and I cranked it up and drafted him to build speed. He pulled away and I maintained 60mph for maybe 15-30 seconds but I could not spin my cranks any faster. Gearing was 54/11. I didn`t feel out of control but I also ride motorcycles so maybe I was used to it already. It was fun

Tom Stormcrowe
03-23-07, 07:50 PM
Back to reality...The fastest I`ve done is 63mph...I had help because a van passed me while I was at 45mph and I cranked it up and drafted him to build speed. He pulled away and I maintained 60mph for maybe 15-30 seconds but I could not spin my cranks any faster. Gearing was 54/11. I didn`t feel out of control but I also ride motorcycles so maybe I was used to it already. It was fun
Sounds like fun!:D

roadfix
03-23-07, 08:04 PM
You'll be in the stratosphere where no bike should be.

Tom Stormcrowe
03-23-07, 08:07 PM
That's the statistics for Olympus Mons on Mars.
I believe it's in that neighborhood, yes. I'm not actually sure though!:D I had just created a joke sign and figured out how tall that hill would be, and next thing I knew, I was posting this thread!;)

Ritehsedad
03-23-07, 08:20 PM
You would probably wear out the tires on the ride down. Watch out for that bump...talk about road rash! :eek:

Tom Stormcrowe
03-23-07, 08:23 PM
You'll be in the stratosphere where no bike should be.
I just realized something, your avatar looks a bit like what you'd look like when the aerodynamic pressure exceeded your ability to hang on to the bike on the way down!:eek:

Tom Stormcrowe
03-23-07, 08:47 PM
It's actually about 22.3 miles high. I did it in my head. Am I right?
22.5, not bad

NoRacer
03-23-07, 08:53 PM
It's actually about 22.3 miles high. I did it in my head. Am I right?


Yeh, it's only 4x the elevation of Mount Everest. :rolleyes: Got oxygen?!

mlts22
03-24-07, 12:18 AM
If the bike had some off-road descents, it would definitely require "the most advanced, toughest wheelsets" imaginable.

Maelstrom
03-24-07, 12:50 AM
Nope...I don't measure using roadie measurements ;)

thomson
03-24-07, 06:31 AM
I got a different answer, 22.144125 miles

The 125 miles is the hypotenuse as the sign indicates that the road is 125 miles long, it is not the adjacent (run, used to calculate the slope).

A slope of 18 % = 10.203974° (ATAN(.18))

The opposite (the rise) is 22.144125 miles (sin(10.203974) * 125)

skiahh
03-24-07, 07:50 AM
I got a different answer, 22.144125 miles

The 125 miles is the hypotenuse as the sign indicates that the road is 125 miles long, it is not the adjacent (run, used to calculate the slope).

A slope of 18 % = 10.203974° (ATAN(.18))

The opposite (the rise) is 22.144125 miles (sin(10.203974) * 125)

Who friggin' cares; this is a bike forum, however loosely related Foo might be?? It's WAY to tall for me (or any of you... even at 401 watts!) to ride up! So for our purposes, what difference does it make if it's 22.14415, 22.4, 23, 121K KM or 4x any other mountain??

Practicality... too many brain cells to waste on this one! :D

Tom Stormcrowe
03-24-07, 07:54 AM
I got a different answer, 22.144125 miles

The 125 miles is the hypotenuse as the sign indicates that the road is 125 miles long, it is not the adjacent (run, used to calculate the slope).

A slope of 18 % = 10.203974° (ATAN(.18))

The opposite (the rise) is 22.144125 miles (sin(10.203974) * 125)
Hmmm, I figured linear distance on a constant slope of 18ft rise/100 foot run and multiplied it out.

Tom Stormcrowe
03-24-07, 07:55 AM
Who friggin' cares; this is a bike forum, however loosely related Foo might be?? It's WAY to tall for me (or any of you... even at 401 watts!) to ride up! So for our purposes, what difference does it make if it's 22.14415, 22.4, 23, 121K KM or 4x any other mountain??

Practicality... too many brain cells to waste on this one! :D
Practicality: Exercise your brain and keep the best tool you have sharp and deadly!:D

thomson
03-24-07, 08:01 AM
Hmmm, I figured linear distance on a constant slope of 18ft rise/100 foot run and multiplied it out.

That is the problem, the slope is rise/run (opposite/adjacent) but the road sign indicates the hypotenuse. (the distance that would be travelled by the vehicle). Normally for bicycling hills, the difference is so minute that it doesn't make much difference. But for a 125 mile hill at 18%, the difference between the hypotenuse and adjacent starts to become significant.

Tom Stormcrowe
03-24-07, 08:05 AM
That is the problem, the slope is rise/run (opposite/adjacent) but the road sign indicates the hypotenuse. (the distance that would be travelled by the vehicle). Normally for bicycling hills, the difference is so minute that it doesn't make much difference. But for a 125 mile hill at 18%, the difference between the hypotenuse and adjacent starts to become significant.
Yep, I didn't even think of the trig function, honestly. My primary use of math is statistics on an N group population and position on a bell curve, so I normally think slope, snapshots in the data and creation of point coordinates. I guess my brain got lazy!;)

Either way though, it's be a hell of a DH run though!;)

thomson
03-24-07, 08:13 AM
Yep, I didn't even think of the trig function, honestly. My primary use of math is statistics on an N group population and position on a bell curve, so I normally think slope, snapshots in the data and creation of point coordinates. I guess my brain got lazy!;)

Either way though, it's be a hell of a DH run though!;)

Agreed, that is a nice downhill although I am sure my brake pads would be worn during the descent and I would resort to Fred Flintstone style braking for a while.

btw, the transportation departments generally list the maximum grade on a sign like that. So, I imagine the question should have been answered, "not enough information". ;)

cooker
03-24-07, 08:44 AM
thomson da man

redfooj
03-24-07, 08:58 AM
depends on the size of the batholith underneath it, and how long it's been there