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skiahh
03-28-07, 11:01 PM
I have FireFox 2.0.0.3. It just popped up a window saying it had automatically downloaded an update and would install on the next restart of FF. Thing is, I have automatic updates turned off. How in the hell did it just decide to go check for and download an update???


Tom Stormcrowe
03-28-07, 11:10 PM
I have FireFox 2.0.0.3. It just popped up a window saying it had automatically downloaded an update and would install on the next restart of FF. Thing is, I have automatic updates turned off. How in the hell did it just decide to go check for and download an update???
Do you have updates turned off in Windows, or FF as well? FF will update independently of Windows preferences. I'd really recommend you leave the FF updates active though. Mozilla is really good about getting security issues updated quickly and that's one of the reasons I like FF so much.:D

mlts22
03-29-07, 12:06 AM
I had that occur myself, but it was 2.0.0.3 offering an upgrade to 2.0.0.2, so I ended up manually downloading FF from the site, checking the executable signature (Yes, the Mozilla devs use signed execs), uninstalling 2.0.0.2, and reinstalling 2.0.0.3.


DannoXYZ
03-29-07, 02:06 AM
Yeah, I find it's cleaner to uninstall previous versions 1st, then installing the newer version (logged on as administrator account) . Be sure to backup your bookmarks.html file first...

The settings for the automatic update is in the Firefox menu: Tools -> Options -> Advanced -> Update

I usually uncheck all of them so I can control the process manually. If you've got your computer set up to be secure against viruses & spyware with a limited user account, hitting that "Update" button from the pop-up window will completely hose your Firefox installation. So you gotta log-on as Admin in order to run the update.

TexasGuy
03-29-07, 07:31 AM
I have FireFox 2.0.0.3. It just popped up a window saying it had automatically downloaded an update and would install on the next restart of FF. Thing is, I have automatic updates turned off. How in the hell did it just decide to go check for and download an update???
VIRUS!

TexasGuy
03-29-07, 07:32 AM
Mozilla is annoying to use on my vista because it keeps doing that and the installation fails.

skiahh
03-29-07, 07:54 AM
I have all automatic updates turned off except Nortin AV (some things, like Zone Alarm I have check and notify only) because I prefer to know what my computer is doing and manually control whether I want an "upgrade" or not.

I don't think I have a virus because Norton hasn't alerted on anything and Zone Alarm hasn't let me know anything's trying to access the internet that shouldn't be. I trust ZA more than Norton, but between the two of them, the protection has been pretty darn good for the past few years.

Who knows... maybe I inadvertently hit the manual update, but I don't think I did. I do believe 99% of computer glitches are user created, so it's probably something I did.

Bizurke
03-29-07, 08:03 AM
all auto updates are turned off on mine and I got surprised when I had a msg saying that it was going to install an update I didn't know about. It struck me as odd but I would have updated as soon as I heard anyway.

Stacey
03-29-07, 08:07 AM
Mozilla is annoying to use on my vista because it keeps doing that and the installation fails.
Correction:

Vista is anoying to use Firefox on because the MS security monitor is a turd.

Pwnt
03-29-07, 08:07 AM
Reformat!

TexasGuy
03-29-07, 08:28 AM
Correction:

Vista is anoying to use Firefox on because the MS security monitor is a turd.
No - actually that's not true. The problem is Mozilla does not check if it is running as an underprivileged user - like all users should be - and then it attempts to install - fails to realize that there is an error and fails to detect what the error came from and instead states that it will be installed when it is restarted. Ad Nausium as it goes through the whole process again. It actually has nothing to do with Vista and everything to do with running as an under privileged users and software still 7 years after the under privileged user was invented not realizing that they have to developer their software capable of detecting, working around, requesting elevated privileges, informing user, etc - whatever is appropriate