closetbiker
05-27-03, 09:20 PM
http://pubstv.com/afmarque.php3?data=aWRfbWFycXVlPTI1Jm5vbV9jYXQ9RmlhdA==
and click on the 2nd one (Palio )
:roflmao:
and click on the 2nd one (Palio )
:roflmao:
General Cycling Discussion - funny (maybe) Fiat commercial
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Spire
05-27-03, 09:25 PM
I don't find it all that funny. Guy in the car is a jerk.
Inoplanetyanin
05-27-03, 10:21 PM
Hahahaha. Very creative!
I was thinking what was he gonna do and what he done is not even wreckless or anything illegal!
Way to go!
thanks for the smile!
I was thinking what was he gonna do and what he done is not even wreckless or anything illegal!
Way to go!
thanks for the smile!
Joe Gardner
05-27-03, 10:32 PM
The guy was a jerk, but for a good reason; I personally would never lean up against a car when waiting for a light or traffic. I would also never ride with headphones, just not smart.
Obviously the point was to be humorous, I doubt it will change anyones option about cyclists, or cause any cyclists any type of physical harm. Overall, I rate the commercial a 8 out of a possible 10. ;)
Obviously the point was to be humorous, I doubt it will change anyones option about cyclists, or cause any cyclists any type of physical harm. Overall, I rate the commercial a 8 out of a possible 10. ;)
Inoplanetyanin
05-27-03, 10:40 PM
That commercial has the only AIM - for you to remember it, and therefore remember the fiat. They didn't make it intending to let people discuss wether it's uproppriate behaivor or not. :)
Very nice one, especially compared to screaming, annyoing many times repeating ones...
Very nice one, especially compared to screaming, annyoing many times repeating ones...
closetbiker
05-28-03, 06:25 AM
Originally posted by Joe Gardner
I personally would never lean up against a car when waiting for a light or traffic.
or how about the cyclist being totally oblivious to the driver (he's obviously dismayed at what the cyclist is doing) at the light! He's breaking the "be aware" of everything when out in traffic rule that would keep him alive! The driver is helping him by forcing him to look around a bit more next time.
I personally would never lean up against a car when waiting for a light or traffic.
or how about the cyclist being totally oblivious to the driver (he's obviously dismayed at what the cyclist is doing) at the light! He's breaking the "be aware" of everything when out in traffic rule that would keep him alive! The driver is helping him by forcing him to look around a bit more next time.
Spire
05-28-03, 06:53 AM
I'm not so sure it is benign. It would not surprise me that some driver somewhere would do a similar thing. One should not lean on cars at traffic lights, but he was doing no harm at all to the car and the driver decided to cause him physical harm. If this reinforced to one driver that they can do what they want to cyclists, then it is wrong. Nothing justifes intentionally hurting another individual.
I know I am taking this a bit seriously, but every little bit of physological leverage agianst cyclists makes a difference.
I know I am taking this a bit seriously, but every little bit of physological leverage agianst cyclists makes a difference.
Avalanche325
05-28-03, 07:31 AM
Lighten up guys. This is a commercial, not a real TV episode.
MichaelW
05-28-03, 07:53 AM
Bad, Bad cyclist. What are you, Yes a Bad cyclist.
aluckyfiji
05-28-03, 08:30 AM
"...but he was doing no harm at all to the car and the driver decided to cause him physical harm. If this reinforced to one driver that they can do what they want to cyclists, then it is wrong..." from Spire
Do you not think that it is our job (as cyclist) to be aware of our surrounding on the road, and hence not assume that a car is going to pull up next to us where we can (not say that one should) use as a support. So would that not make it the cyclist fault for fallen at the traffic light?
Do you not think that it is our job (as cyclist) to be aware of our surrounding on the road, and hence not assume that a car is going to pull up next to us where we can (not say that one should) use as a support. So would that not make it the cyclist fault for fallen at the traffic light?
Spire
05-28-03, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by aluckyfiji
Do you not think that it is our job (as cyclist) to be aware of our surrounding on the road, and hence not assume that a car is going to pull up next to us where we can (not say that one should) use as a support. So would that not make it the cyclist fault for fallen at the traffic light?
I think you might have mis-seen the commercial. The guy in the car throws it into reverse at the last second to make the cyclist fall down. The cyclist was aware that a car was there and just used it to rest. I do not codone that, but like I said it sends the signal to motorists that they can do whatever with regards to cyclists. I understand that this is not a real-life thing, but its the general automotive phsycology that gets me. The driver of the car is a jerk for intentionally inflicting harm on another person.
Do you not think that it is our job (as cyclist) to be aware of our surrounding on the road, and hence not assume that a car is going to pull up next to us where we can (not say that one should) use as a support. So would that not make it the cyclist fault for fallen at the traffic light?
I think you might have mis-seen the commercial. The guy in the car throws it into reverse at the last second to make the cyclist fall down. The cyclist was aware that a car was there and just used it to rest. I do not codone that, but like I said it sends the signal to motorists that they can do whatever with regards to cyclists. I understand that this is not a real-life thing, but its the general automotive phsycology that gets me. The driver of the car is a jerk for intentionally inflicting harm on another person.
Avalanche325
05-28-03, 09:11 AM
The "driver of the car" IS AN ACTOR. The "cyclist" IS AN ACTOR. What they are doing IS FOLLOWING A SCRIPT. Neither one is real........get it???????
No harm was inflicted. I am sure the "cyclist" was a professional stunt man. They both got paid for what you saw.
No harm was inflicted. I am sure the "cyclist" was a professional stunt man. They both got paid for what you saw.
Spire
05-28-03, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by Avalanche325
The "driver of the car" IS AN ACTOR. The "cyclist" IS AN ACTOR. What they are doing IS FOLLOWING A SCRIPT. Neither one is real........get it???????
No harm was inflicted. I am sure the "cyclist" was a professional stunt man. They both got paid for what you saw.
You are completely missing the point! How stupid do you think I am? I resent being talked to the way you just did.
What I am saying is that it perpetrates a philosphy that motorists can do what they want to cyclists. People laugh at this situation, but many motorists already think that they can do whatever they want including what was pictured in the advert. All too often I see cyclists being portrayed badly in television shows as well as adverts.
The "driver of the car" IS AN ACTOR. The "cyclist" IS AN ACTOR. What they are doing IS FOLLOWING A SCRIPT. Neither one is real........get it???????
No harm was inflicted. I am sure the "cyclist" was a professional stunt man. They both got paid for what you saw.
You are completely missing the point! How stupid do you think I am? I resent being talked to the way you just did.
What I am saying is that it perpetrates a philosphy that motorists can do what they want to cyclists. People laugh at this situation, but many motorists already think that they can do whatever they want including what was pictured in the advert. All too often I see cyclists being portrayed badly in television shows as well as adverts.
closetbiker
05-28-03, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by Spire
many motorists already think that they can do whatever they want including what was pictured in the advert.
So are you saying that the cyclist leaning on the car, despite the drivers obvious dismay at this, is blameless for the drivers actions?
I see it as the cyclist couldn't see a potential trouble coming (annoying a driver by his disrespectful behaviour) and paid a price for it.
many motorists already think that they can do whatever they want including what was pictured in the advert.
So are you saying that the cyclist leaning on the car, despite the drivers obvious dismay at this, is blameless for the drivers actions?
I see it as the cyclist couldn't see a potential trouble coming (annoying a driver by his disrespectful behaviour) and paid a price for it.
Spire
05-28-03, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by closetbiker
So are you saying that the cyclist leaning on the car, despite the drivers obvious dismay at this, is blameless for the drivers actions?
I see it as the cyclist couldn't see a potential trouble coming (annoying a driver by his disrespectful behaviour) and paid a price for it.
If anybody (including this particular driver) intentionly inflicts bodily harm on another (as he did in the advert) his is completely responsible and should face the consequences. So if somebody does something to annoy me, I have the right to crack them across the face? That is basically the way I interpret your post.
I'm not saying that cyclists should be leaning up against cars at all. Nothing justifes intentionally hurting another individual. period.
So are you saying that the cyclist leaning on the car, despite the drivers obvious dismay at this, is blameless for the drivers actions?
I see it as the cyclist couldn't see a potential trouble coming (annoying a driver by his disrespectful behaviour) and paid a price for it.
If anybody (including this particular driver) intentionly inflicts bodily harm on another (as he did in the advert) his is completely responsible and should face the consequences. So if somebody does something to annoy me, I have the right to crack them across the face? That is basically the way I interpret your post.
I'm not saying that cyclists should be leaning up against cars at all. Nothing justifes intentionally hurting another individual. period.
smelly
05-28-03, 09:52 AM
Thats so old! I saw it on Turkish TV back in 2000!!! Yes, I'am Turkish!!!!!
schnell
05-28-03, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by Spire
If anybody (including this particular driver) intentionly inflicts bodily harm on another (as he did in the advert) his is completely responsible and should face the consequences.
Define "inflicting bodily harm". The driver reversed his car without coming in contact with the cyclist - how again did he inflict harm? It's not his fault that the cyclist was relying on his property to steady himself.
Funny commercial :)
If anybody (including this particular driver) intentionly inflicts bodily harm on another (as he did in the advert) his is completely responsible and should face the consequences.
Define "inflicting bodily harm". The driver reversed his car without coming in contact with the cyclist - how again did he inflict harm? It's not his fault that the cyclist was relying on his property to steady himself.
Funny commercial :)
Skullder
05-28-03, 11:30 AM
seen this a long time ago. funny stuff :p
Chuvak
05-28-03, 11:34 AM
AAAAAhhh! It's a good one. If I was the driver I would have done the same thing, or something similar. The guy on the bike is just an A**Hole.
Avalanche325
05-28-03, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by Spire
You are completely missing the point! How stupid do you think I am? I resent being talked to the way you just did.
If anybody (including this particular driver) intentionly inflicts bodily harm on another (as he did in the advert) his is completely responsible and should face the consequences. So if somebody does something to annoy me, I have the right to crack them across the face? That is basically the way I interpret your post.
I'm not saying that cyclists should be leaning up against cars at all. Nothing justifes intentionally hurting another individual. period.
All I am saying is that you are getting awfully upset about a TV commercial. It is not a drivers instructional video. I am sorry that you resent what I said. You are the one that seems to be ranting over something that is not even real.
How about we call Lt. Sipowitz from NYPD Blue to go arrest the guy? Then we can get a ruling from Perry Mason on who broke the law, the TV cyclist or the TV driver.
You are completely missing the point! How stupid do you think I am? I resent being talked to the way you just did.
If anybody (including this particular driver) intentionly inflicts bodily harm on another (as he did in the advert) his is completely responsible and should face the consequences. So if somebody does something to annoy me, I have the right to crack them across the face? That is basically the way I interpret your post.
I'm not saying that cyclists should be leaning up against cars at all. Nothing justifes intentionally hurting another individual. period.
All I am saying is that you are getting awfully upset about a TV commercial. It is not a drivers instructional video. I am sorry that you resent what I said. You are the one that seems to be ranting over something that is not even real.
How about we call Lt. Sipowitz from NYPD Blue to go arrest the guy? Then we can get a ruling from Perry Mason on who broke the law, the TV cyclist or the TV driver.
Spire
05-28-03, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by Avalanche325
All I am saying is that you are getting awfully upset about a TV commercial. It is not a drivers instructional video. I am sorry that you resent what I said. You are the one that seems to be ranting over something that is not even real.
How about we call Lt. Sipowitz from NYPD Blue to go arrest the guy? Then we can get a ruling from Perry Mason on who broke the law, the TV cyclist or the TV driver.
Its not this one commercial. I see on a regular basis commercials (frequently automotive) that either depict cyclists as fringe, rude, or bad cyclists. This one is the worst so far, it would not be so far fetched for somebody who sees this commercial to actually do what is depcited.
All I am saying is that you are getting awfully upset about a TV commercial. It is not a drivers instructional video. I am sorry that you resent what I said. You are the one that seems to be ranting over something that is not even real.
How about we call Lt. Sipowitz from NYPD Blue to go arrest the guy? Then we can get a ruling from Perry Mason on who broke the law, the TV cyclist or the TV driver.
Its not this one commercial. I see on a regular basis commercials (frequently automotive) that either depict cyclists as fringe, rude, or bad cyclists. This one is the worst so far, it would not be so far fetched for somebody who sees this commercial to actually do what is depcited.
lotek
05-28-03, 05:37 PM
Spire,
and to counter this one is the entire run of Subaru commercials
that Lance is doing, showing cyclists in a different light.
I think that the commercial in question (fiat) is funny, and I
don't really think that it gives people a bad impression of
cyclists.
So, what commercials put us in a bad light? or show us
as fringe, hippie, alternative lifestyle types? I really
don't recall seeing that (not being sarcastic here, just
curious).
I think this is a bit of a tempest in a teapot.
just my $.02 tho,
Marty
and to counter this one is the entire run of Subaru commercials
that Lance is doing, showing cyclists in a different light.
I think that the commercial in question (fiat) is funny, and I
don't really think that it gives people a bad impression of
cyclists.
So, what commercials put us in a bad light? or show us
as fringe, hippie, alternative lifestyle types? I really
don't recall seeing that (not being sarcastic here, just
curious).
I think this is a bit of a tempest in a teapot.
just my $.02 tho,
Marty