Foo - What exactly is flux?

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phantomcow2
03-29-07, 03:30 PM
What IS magnetic flux? Is magnetic flux a physical sub atomic particle of sorts? Or is it simply a tool we use to quantity of the strength of a magnetic field?
It's delicious on bagels.
stuff that makes welding and soldering easier
VegaVixen
03-29-07, 03:56 PM
Magnetic flux, Φ, is the measure of the strength of a magnetic field.
VegaVixen
03-29-07, 05:40 PM
Leave it to the English grads to break complex terms down into simple components. :D
I don't know what it is, but I know it belongs in a capacitor. :p
georgiaboy
03-29-07, 05:43 PM
It's when you can't pay your buddy back the money you owe him. :D
"Sorry, mate, I am in a bit of a flux, right now."
its the fifty first state - the state of flux
Flux also gets solder to stick too.
VegaVixen
03-29-07, 06:08 PM
Or is that an artsy ninja liberal? Words confuse me.
free_pizza
03-29-07, 06:44 PM
a fancy word for flow rate :)
Mr. Gear Jammer
03-29-07, 06:47 PM
It's delicious on bagels.
Very nice:D .
TexasGuy
03-29-07, 06:50 PM
Isn't flux the effect that the magnet has on the electrons of atoms that causes the distortion field around a magnet. aka if you do the iron filing trick. I've always been kind of curious as to what the "flux" actually is. E.g. if it is the effect that the magnet has on electrons of atoms then do magnets have a sphere of influence in outer space?
Isn't flux the effect that the magnet has on the electrons of atoms that causes the distortion field around a magnet. aka if you do the iron filing trick. I've always been kind of curious as to what the "flux" actually is. E.g. if it is the effect that the magnet has on electrons of atoms then do magnets have a sphere of influence in outer space?
No, not really. You're talking about the magnetic field, not the magnetic flux, though they are closely related. You can think of the magnetic flux as the quantity of magnetic field flowing through a defined area like the interior of a loop of wire. That description is not entirely accurate because the field doesn't really flow. Think of it this way: If you could draw lines in three dimensions showing the magnetic field, in which the lines are in the direction of the field at each point, then the density of the lines in a given region is proportional to the magnetic field density. Then you draw a loop and count the lines going through the loop, and that count is proportional the the magnetic flux through the loop. Same concept applies to gravitational flux and other types of fields.
CyLowe97
03-30-07, 07:41 AM
Here's my old pal Marty with the Flux Capacitor that Doc Brown built...
http://www.cedmagic.com/featured/back-to-the-future/flux-capacitor-real.jpg
2manybikes
03-30-07, 07:57 AM
conductors and fluxes? Read this....
[From The Institute of Electrical Engineers, Students Quarterly Journal 25]
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a machine is the 'Turboencabulator'. Basically, the only new principle involved
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o-delta type placed in panendermic semiboloid solts in the stator, every seventh
conductor being connected by a non-reversible termic pipe to the differential
girdlespring on the 'up' end of the grammeter.
Forty-one manestically placed grouting brushes were arrranged to feed into the
rotor slip stream a mixture of high S-value phenyhydrobenzamine and 5 percent
reminative tetraiodohexamine. Both these liquids have specific pericosities
given by p=2.4 Cn where n is the diathecial evolute of retrograde temperature
phase disposition and C is the Chomondeley's annual grillage coefficient.
Initially, n was measured with the aid of a metapolar pilfrometer, but up to the
present date nothing has been found to equal the transcetental hopper dadoscope.
Electrical engineers will appreciate the difficulty of nubbing together a
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VegaVixen
03-30-07, 09:04 AM
:roflmao:
nobrainer440
03-30-07, 09:14 AM
Flux is actually a mathematical term. It's integrating a vector field over a bounded surface.
It might be easiest to understand flux if you think about water flow in a pipe. Assuming the velocity is the same all through the pipe, if you multiply the velocity of the flow (m/s) times the cross-sectional area of the pipe (m^2) you have the volumetric flux through a cross-section of the pipe (m^3/s). That's flow rate when you're talking about fluids in pipes, but you can measure flux of any vector field over any surface.
A magnetic field can be represented as a vector field, which is what you see when you sprinkle iron filings around a magnet. The filings line up in the direction of the magnetic field vectors. You can define a surface anywhere you want around the magnet, and integrate the vector field over that surface, and that's the magnetic flux through that surface.
Also, flux is the stuff that helps the metals stick to each other in soldering, welding, etc.
Oh, stop, 2manybikes, you are getting me soooooo hotttttt with your sexy talk! Wanna flux?
krazygluon
03-30-07, 09:32 AM
The guy with a physics degree gives a thumbs up +1 to most of the statements above.
Flux is just flow, or specifically a way of using a vector to describe the flow intensity and direction through a specific plane of area.
Magnetic flux is just another way of describing a particularly interesting part of a particular magnetic field.
So on the subject of magnetism anyone here read Jackson? (if you have you know which jackson I'm talking about...if not don't worry much, your life is significantly saner without reading the book)
2manybikes
03-30-07, 09:52 AM
:roflmao:
Please. please, watch this. It will have you ROTFLOL. I promise !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwd_d_nYxdI
Oh, stop, 2manybikes, you are getting me soooooo hotttttt with your sexy talk! Wanna flux?
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: Oh baby !!!!
Watch the YouTube video above. You will need to have a cigarette afterwards. :D
VegaVixen
03-30-07, 10:04 AM
2manybikes, that is too funny. I'm sending that to some former colleagues of mine. :D
i thought flux was when you get a different strain of the flu two weeks in a row....aren't you in flux then?
I thought a flux was that fluffly shirt you wear under a tux.
santiago
03-30-07, 11:56 AM
This is my flux. Now that spring is here, I get to put it together.
http://stradasystems.com/mtb/images/flux_wip_001.jpg
2manybikes
03-30-07, 06:36 PM
2manybikes, that is too funny. I'm sending that to some former colleagues of mine. :D
Great !
I love it. A friend of mine handed that (the typed version) in as a science project in High School. The teacher laughed so much he was crying.
No, not really. You're talking about the magnetic field, not the magnetic flux, though they are closely related. You can think of the magnetic flux as the quantity of magnetic field flowing through a defined area like the interior of a loop of wire. That description is not entirely accurate because the field doesn't really flow. Think of it this way: If you could draw lines in three dimensions showing the magnetic field, in which the lines are in the direction of the field at each point, then the density of the lines in a given region is proportional to the magnetic field density. Then you draw a loop and count the lines going through the loop, and that count is proportional the the magnetic flux through the loop. Same concept applies to gravitational flux and other types of fields.
If it flowed it would be an electromagnetic field (EMF). :eek:
TexasGuy
03-31-07, 08:19 AM
The guy with a physics degree gives a thumbs up +1 to most of the statements above.
Flux is just flow, or specifically a way of using a vector to describe the flow intensity and direction through a specific plane of area.
Magnetic flux is just another way of describing a particularly interesting part of a particular magnetic field.
So on the subject of magnetism anyone here read Jackson? (if you have you know which jackson I'm talking about...if not don't worry much, your life is significantly saner without reading the book)
We understand what flux is
The question posed was
"What makes up magnetic flux".
TexasGuy
03-31-07, 08:31 AM
According to modern electromagnetic theory, electromagnetic forces are mediated by the transfer of virtual photons.
So apparently even mankind does not yet undertand or know the answer to this.
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