a couple of stupid questions

[sore taint]

first I have been watching some videos and it seems that some people pedal backwards when rolling backwards and some people just coast.
I was riding bmx back when Haro was just coming up and in those day if you had a freewheel you had to pedal backwards with the freewheel and could only coast backwards with a coaster brake. is that still the case?

and

is there a different Geometry between street bike and say dirt jumping bikes or race bmx bike?

rip me apart if you want or help a old man out

[gnr rocker]

race bikes are light and aluminum, street bikes are chromo and tanks.

[sniks]

race bikes are light and aluminum, street bikes are chromo and tanks.


but is the geometry different?

[gnr rocker]

yes

[FuzzyRyder]

Race bikes usually are different. Are far as street and dirt go things are pretty much the same. Generaly for dirt people prefer a longer rear end though. The differences are minor though, even when comparing to race bikes. The only real differences are the conponents and materials used. The riders the you see in videos just coasting backward without having to back pedal have a special hub called a "freecoaster". The name is pretty self explanitory but it allows the driver to be fully disengaged with a mechanisim inside the hub so the wheel will spin backwards freely. Exactly the same concept as the coaster brake, without the brake.

[sore taint]

thanks for your help.

[KinetikBiker]

Race bikes and trail frames will probly have close geometry, like mellower headtubes around 73'-74.5' and generally a longer tt. But that doesn't mean you can't ride trails or race with a shorter, steep angled bike.

The people that you see flying backwards without pedaling are using what are called Freecoaster hubs. Basically when you go backwards you pedal backwards like once and the hub will disengage and it will stay like that allowing you to keep going backwards until you pedal either way. It's hard to explain.

EDIT: Haha Fuzzy beat me too it so don't bother reading all that, it's the same as his post.

[sbcdestroy]

to fakie without backpedaling you need a freecoaster hub.

racebikes are usually longer, lighter and such.

for the record, street bikes are not all tanks.

mine is 23 lbs with pegs and a brake.

[mude]

i wonder why its called "fakie".
why not "backie" or somthing more descriptive of whats actually happening.

[FitRider 921]

because fakie sounds cooler, mr. philosopher

[old and new]

except : what about carbon and / or titanium. Anyway, even tanks can be usefull .

[KinetikBiker]

to fakie without backpedaling you need a freecoaster hub.

racebikes are usually longer, lighter and such.

for the record, street bikes are not all tanks.
True. But that's probly because all these people are trying to ride sreet with S3's and Hawk frames.

[FitRider 921]

S3's are actually pretty sturdy frames and I would ride one on street with confidence. As for Hawk frames, I would do nothing of the sort.

[eightdip]

I can't be bothered with frames under 5.5 lbs. I like my bike sturdy

[gnr rocker]

iwant one of those z frames for a joke

[eightdip]

Haha they are amazing, i bet it'd crack, it is aluminium

[gnr rocker]

im gonna get an old walmart bike and take the heatube and the bb off and weld together a mega frame made of galvonized

[mude]

i want an endemic

[eightdip]

I want a Ti Grim reaper to see how long it would last under me :D.

I haven't ridden a day without breaking things on my bike for the past 4 times i've ridden

1) Valve ripped on innertube

2) Crank arm snapped

3) Headset cracked

4) Wheel broke (fixed it after though)

[mude]

wow.
your pretty unlucky.

[eightdip]

I really am. Good job i had a spare headset aswell. The rest were an arsehole to get

[premiumbmx2005]

my last broken part that i can recall is my headset. im not hard on parts.

[eightdip]

I didn't think I was, turns out I am.

I'm really lucky not to have hurt myself actually

[studot]

headset breaking sucks, intergrated tis the way forward

[eightdip]

But I'll stick to my Ruben

[FuzzyRyder]

I'm pretty smooth. I don't break **** often.

[studot]

but if u cud swap ur ruben for a new one i bet u wud

[eightdip]

Yeh but thats not gonna happen is it

[Retem]

I bought my first bmx since my haro group one and the geo has changed alot the ht is more mellow on em and the stays are wishbone to take some of the knock out of the aluminum what I am riding right now is a 07 se om flyer its a pretty kick ass bike for what I like to do being 6'4" and 220# it feels good and rides nice I am working on building up a quadangle looptail le all skyway style go OG and have the kids geeking

good luck man need any advice these youngins really know their stuff pick their brains before they wreck and scatter em all over the track/ park / or double

btw thanks guys for all the help

[mude]

but if u cud swap ur ruben for a new one i bet u wud
what about my cud?
and whats a u and a ur?
and the dictionary didnt have the word "wud" in it. whats it mean again?

[mude]

I bought my first bmx since my haro group one and the geo has changed alot the ht is more mellow on em and the stays are wishbone to take some of the knock out of the aluminum what I am riding right now is a 07 se om flyer its a pretty kick ass bike for what I like to do being 6'4" and 220# it feels good and rides nice I am working on building up a quadangle looptail le all skyway style go OG and have the kids geeking

good luck man need any advice these youngins really know their stuff pick their brains before they wreck and scatter em all over the track/ park / or double

btw thanks guys for all the help
we were helpful?
thats a first.

[Retem]

dude anything is help when you haven't ridden a bmx in over 5 yrs

[FitRider 921]

we were helpful?
thats a first.
word. are we changing? and is it for better or for worse?

[FitRider 921]

wow.
your pretty unlucky.
word. the only thing I break is myself.

[MadMan2k]

But at least you do a good job of it. :p

[FitRider 921]

yes, I'm very good at breaking myself into many little pieces and taking an extra long time to recover. doctor tomorrow, wish me luck.

[eightdip]

what about my cud?
and whats a u and a ur?
and the dictionary didnt have the word "wud" in it. whats it mean again?

He'll learn, he's my good friend and I will make him type properly :P

[studot]

oh right sorry guys im just used to short hand writing

ill type proply now :D

[eightdip]

Good stuff Stu