Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Full suspension fixie? Do you think it's worth the hassle?

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Gyeswho
04-14-07, 12:27 AM
I'm tired of not shifting when i want to and having to deal with the hassle of shift adj. maintainance. i think im going to buy an ENO hub and call it a day. what yall think?
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doofo
04-14-07, 12:31 AM
i dont see buying a eno hub for that bike

but if you want to

go for it

doesnt look like it sees dirt

so might as well be fixed

for hilarity if nothing else

Blue Jays
04-14-07, 12:36 AM
Is this Mongoose generally ridden on trails or mostly on pavement? That would definitely influence the direction you could take with modifying this bike.


Gyeswho
04-14-07, 12:37 AM
pavement only. bought 2 years ago when i was new to biking so i didn't know the purposes of diff bikes. it looked tuff to ride the streets and went for it

jamey
04-14-07, 12:40 AM
haha, how annoying is it everytime you hit a bump and your rear suspension knocks your u-lock out of it's holster?

Gyeswho
04-14-07, 12:42 AM
that's why its in my bag now. i hit a bump one day and the holder shattered and dropped the lock. but lock is okay now

mander
04-14-07, 12:46 AM
Do it, if you've got the $$ it'd be definitely worth it for lolz alone and I bet it will roll like a freaking tank.

jyossarian
04-14-07, 01:03 AM
**** it, experimentation's fun. If you got the bucks for an Eno, go for it.

Gyeswho
04-14-07, 01:05 AM
well they are down to $160 now but its alot just to get the bike "fixed." trying to get feedback on it use in the long run. i will already have a strong brake but the weight issue is what makes me think it won't be worth it. good for bad weather though and this thing may shine. hmmmm...????
* make that $140 not counting the discount with a performance bike code
** i just found this: http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=85&subcategory=1107&brand=&sku=12033&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=Shop%20by%20Subcat%3A%20Freehubs%2FRear%20Hubs

ben_123
04-14-07, 01:20 AM
Gyeswho,

This will not work very well. Since the bike is a modified 4-bar linkage, the chain length changes with suspension movement. Unless the pivot is around the BB (like the Kona A) the chain would take the load of the suspension compression, which I doubt it is strong enough to do.

Gyeswho
04-14-07, 01:23 AM
Gyeswho,

This will not work very well. Since the bike is a modified 4-bar linkage, the chain length changes with suspension movement. Unless the pivot is around the BB (like the Kona A) the chain would take the load of the suspension compression, which I doubt it is strong enough to do.

ooh man thanks alot! i never considered that's i'd be poppin chains left and right. o well it was nice to think it was possible. thanks again very much

streetlightpoet
04-14-07, 05:44 AM
He's right about the suspension, Kona used to make the A frame for ss fs rigs but have discontinued it. Now your only option would be the Cowan DS. I was thinking about fixing one the other day, but definitely don't have the $850 to drop on a frame for a joke bike.

garagegirl
04-14-07, 09:36 AM
Can't you just sell that bike? Full suspension bikes on pavement are like driving to work on a zamboni.

dmotoguy
04-14-07, 10:29 AM
werd

thebankman
04-14-07, 10:46 AM
Full suspension bikes on pavement are like driving to work on a zamboni.

It's raining, I'm healing from a crash, and feeling down. You made my day.

Dumpsterlife
04-14-07, 10:51 AM
Can't you just sell that bike? Full suspension bikes on pavement are like driving to work on a zamboni.

Craigslist

You're in the Bronx? You could sell that thing by monday.

cosmo starr
04-14-07, 12:05 PM
doesnt chain tension change as the rear suspension cycles through

doofo
04-14-07, 12:11 PM
weve already gone over that

Gyeswho
04-14-07, 12:15 PM
Craigslist

You're in the Bronx? You could sell that thing by monday.

how much would you call for it? I don't want to sell cuz its a grad gift

explody pup
04-14-07, 12:23 PM
If you're not set on fixed, you could always convert to SS and use your derailleur to keep chain tension.

Gyeswho
04-14-07, 12:26 PM
If you're not set on fixed, you could always convert to SS and use your derailleur to keep chain tension.

yea i guess your right. good suggestion. man i think one day i def want to experiment to see what its like

mintyai
04-14-07, 01:46 PM
the suspension pivot looks really close to the bottom bracket, only about 3cm away. Just did a quick bit of geometry and I think that if the wheel travelled up by 4cm, the distance between the bottom bracket and the axle would only change by about 2.2mm. When the chain is wearing on my bike, if I leave it for a time without being bothered it can easily get to be 2.2mm out and it is still ridable, but trackstands are a little bit sloppy. Maybe if you measured the distance between the bottom bracket and the axle with different amounts of suspension you would find it was not that big a deal.

I use the eno hub and love it. I laugh when I see how long it takes riders with track ends to get their chain tension right, with the eno it is normally only a few seconds and no messing about with getting the wheel perpendicular to the frame...

...but then they are normaly laughing back at my 24" wheeled bike so that makes us even.

Gyeswho
04-14-07, 01:50 PM
the suspension pivot looks really close to the bottom bracket, only about 3cm away. Just did a quick bit of geometry and I think that if the wheel travelled up by 4cm, the distance between the bottom bracket and the axle would only change by about 2.2mm. When the chain is wearing on my bike, if I leave it for a time without being bothered it can easily get to be 2.2mm out and it is still ridable, but trackstands are a little bit sloppy. Maybe if you measured the distance between the bottom bracket and the axle with different amounts of suspension you would find it was not that big a deal.

I use the eno hub and love it. I laugh when I see how long it takes riders with track ends to get their chain tension right, with the eno it is normally only a few seconds and no messing about with getting the wheel perpendicular to the frame...

...but then they are normaly laughing back at my 24" wheeled bike so that makes us even.

yea thanks. i have you suspension set really hard now so it doesn't spring when the back wheel hits a bump. i feel like i ride a hardtail now cuz of it. i will def take your advise and see. btw i have always been a fan of your bike. it is amazing looking. thanks again.

blickblocks
04-14-07, 01:58 PM
Neat idea but really, pointless. Get a $20 80's steel road bike, buy a track wheelset, and feel like you just got liposuction.

Gyeswho
04-14-07, 02:11 PM
Neat idea but really, pointless. Get a $20 80's steel road bike, buy a track wheelset, and feel like you just got liposuction.

well black widow (check my signature)is just that. i wanted to try something not really too common

schnee
04-14-07, 04:48 PM
Have fun with that bike, but I think you'd probably have a lot more fun with an 80's steel hardtail mountain bike with Schwalbe Big Apple tires. Much more responsive, quicker, less sludgy, lighter, and the fat tires would give you 90% of the suspension you'd ever need.

Jerseysbest
04-14-07, 04:52 PM
I use the eno hub and love it. I laugh when I see how long it takes riders with track ends to get their chain tension right, with the eno it is normally only a few seconds and no messing about with getting the wheel perpendicular to the frame...

Probably takes me well under 1 minute to mount the rear wheel with no Eno, only takes a little practice (a lot of flat tires...)

blickblocks
04-14-07, 05:29 PM
well black widow (check my signature)is just that. i wanted to try something not really too common

Oh dude I didn't even realize you had other bikes. I thought you were a noob. :)

johnprolly
04-15-07, 01:24 AM
It looks like a praying mantis...

Gyeswho
04-15-07, 03:09 AM
It looks like a praying mantis...
well you got the insect aspect of it right. that's why i like it so much. its a weird lookin bike that's complicated to figure out