Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - a love/hate for rubinos has turned into a hate of axials

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seaneee
04-15-07, 01:34 AM
So I used to have this love/hate thing going on with rubinos. I liked 'em, but they were near impossible to get on and nearly impossible to get off. Today I broke three levers trying to get a set off.

I swapped 'em out for a set of michelin axials. They were $6 ea on clearance through IRO. They have gumwalls, and I wanted something classic looking. Anyway, these are way more of pain in the @ss to get on then rubinos. I thought there could be nothing worse.

/rant


endo shi
04-15-07, 01:37 AM
you're doing it wrong sonny.

Sakae Custom
04-15-07, 01:42 AM
metal tire levers


filtersweep
04-15-07, 01:56 AM
What rims are you using. Rubinos usually are rather easy to work with on most of my rims.

br995
04-15-07, 02:04 AM
metal tire levers
+1. This way instead of new levers you only have to buy 3 new rims with every set of tires.

jamey
04-15-07, 02:19 AM
same luck here. i use a rubino tech in the rear and i broke a few levers before taking the wheel to the shop. they had to use a metal lever and it left a little mark on my rim. those tires are pretty awesome for durability but suck for going on/off.

Bikkhu
04-15-07, 02:21 AM
http://pr0n.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/7/71/Wrongbmx.jpg

nobrainer440
04-15-07, 02:46 AM
My rubinos practically fell onto my wheels.

Terror_in_pink
04-15-07, 03:30 AM
Rubinos were super easy for me, maybe it's your rims.

I just got these torelli rims and it's a mother and a half getting these damn verdesteins on and off.

Surferbruce
04-15-07, 07:45 AM
i have some gum wall axials i'm still running, the ones with the little green stripe, and they've been amazingly durable tires. i bet you like em when you ride em.

Moose
04-15-07, 07:50 AM
http://pr0n.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/7/71/Wrongbmx.jpg
This photo deserves it's own thread.

shogun17
04-15-07, 07:54 AM
Michelin tyre levers. All others suck ass.

br995
04-15-07, 08:01 AM
This photo deserves it's own thread.
No. No it does not.

Igneous Faction
04-15-07, 08:05 AM
I cursed myself, tires, and the world trying to get a pair of Rubino's onto my IRO wheels. However, they practically fell onto my aeroheads.

endform
04-15-07, 09:55 AM
Soma levers (which are coated metal) are pretty hard to break and won't eff your **** up.

j-lie
04-15-07, 09:57 AM
what rims?

endform
04-15-07, 10:00 AM
If I were a betting man, I might bet 25cents that they are SUN rims, b/c when I had a pair they were a total biach

Fixedwheelnut
04-15-07, 10:19 AM
I use Rubino's and metal tyre levers, they are the best balance for grip and puncture resistance.

jamey
04-15-07, 11:58 AM
If I were a betting man, I might bet 25cents that they are SUN rims, b/c when I had a pair they were a total biach

ding ding ding. sun venus rim. pain in the ass!!!

pinkrobe
04-15-07, 12:03 PM
I had a Rubino roll right off my rim at the staggering speed of 15 km/h. I also got flats every 150 km like clockwork. Never again!

j-lie
04-15-07, 12:34 PM
can't remember which model but i have some 90s era mavics that are a pain in the ass with rubinos

doofo
04-15-07, 12:39 PM
when i cant get a tire on

i just get the same tire in a 27"

its almost too easy to get on after that

larry e.
04-15-07, 02:00 PM
it took me an hour to get a rubino pro onto a weinmann rim once.

stronzo
04-15-07, 02:26 PM
rubino pro slicks + open pro cd rims. no levers needed, and they've held up downtown better than any other tire i've tried. two thumbs up.

seaneee
04-15-07, 02:40 PM
you're doing it wrong sonny.


No, actually I'm not.

Old Mavic MA2 rims. Older Mavics and Rubinos have been known to not get along. It's def the rims, but I had to vent.

seaneee
04-15-07, 02:42 PM
Soma levers (which are coated metal) are pretty hard to break and won't eff your **** up.


Soma levers are not so good. They have steel in the handle part, but not in the actual lever end. If you bust one, the metal can stick out and either f-up your tire, screw your tube, or mar your rim.

Retem
04-15-07, 03:47 PM
pedros levers work great for me
or this thing
http://i10.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/66/3a/a1_1.JPG
tioga also makes a plastic version of this which I like better keeps you nice rims shiny

noriel
04-15-07, 08:46 PM
Soma levers (which are coated metal) are pretty hard to break and won't eff your **** up.

+1 I got these as soon as I saw them at the LBS. Metal core + plastic coating = durable and scratch proof.

endform
04-15-07, 10:18 PM
I personally have never broken one but the shop I frequent typically wears those things down to the metal without them breaking (they throw 'em out after all the nylon gets worn off the tip), haven't heard any complaints about breaking.

mascher
04-15-07, 10:48 PM
Now on my third set of "nice" tires, I've found that cheap wire bead tires are really really hard to get on and off road rims in general. I just finished mounting a set of Schwalbe Stelvios on a pair of Campy rims (notorious for being hard to get tires onto) and I didn't even have to fight them, but I did have to fight 20 minutes each with the wire bead Specialized Turbos that were on them to get both beads off.

Broke a pair of Park tire levers getting a cheap IRC slick off of a Sun RPM rim - it took two strong people who knew what they were doing to get it off.

Just have really expensive tires. Problem solved :D

seaneee
04-15-07, 10:59 PM
pedros levers work great for me
or this thing
http://i10.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/66/3a/a1_1.JPG
tioga also makes a plastic version of this which I like better keeps you nice rims shiny

I've heard good things about the kool stop ones. They are only $10, but none of the LBS have them, so that leaves mail order and another $10 for shipping :(

Retem
04-15-07, 11:14 PM
have you tried mv or freewheel they should be able to get it for ya

deimos
04-15-07, 11:45 PM
+1 for pedro levers

Retem
04-16-07, 12:13 AM
+1 for pedro levers
+ lifetime warranty

seaneee
04-16-07, 01:18 AM
have you tried mv or freewheel they should be able to get it for ya

Never thought of having a shop order and save on shipping. Thanks for the tip, I'll head over on tues to freewheel and ask.

I def want to get one as I am dreading getting a flat with these rims/tires since it will be a pain to get them on/off

Momentum
04-16-07, 02:39 AM
I've found Rubinos (with the wire bead) to be a pain in the arse on a variety of rims. Rubino Pros i find to be ok on all the rims I've tried them on.