Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - KHS Pursuit anyone?

So I just got my KHS pursuit frame in the mail.

57cm - great condition, powdercoated black.

Anyone else have one of these? I'm interested in seeing what everyone's builds look like. I've tracked a few down on Velospace and Flickr, but wanted to see what was out there in the BF world.

Also, does anyone run 170mm cranks on these? I was thinking 165mm would be best, but I've been told 170mm has enough clearance.

Thanks!

If it truly is a pursuit frame then I retract what I said earlier. While mass start track geometry has a higher bb to avoid pedal strikes pursuit bikes usually have lower ones.

It's a 700c x 700c pursuit

My Dark Throne
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/213/445447020_773466c4c7.jpg

I'm guessing the best way to tell would be to throw the wheelset on it and measure the clearance.... 165 is probably the safest bet.

I honestly haven't noticed much difference in clearance between the two. 5mm has not saved me any toeverlap, and I'm fine with that.

It's a 700c x 700c pursuit

My Dark Throne
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/213/445447020_773466c4c7.jpg

I'm guessing the best way to tell would be to throw the wheelset on it and measure the clearance.... 165 is probably the safest bet.


you could always rock some 167.5's

Thanks guys.

i almost got that frame...you got a good deal on it with that BIN. Good score/luck

interesting color choice good luck with the new frame - I'll see it on the streets sooner or later

I went with 165's on my KHS and have since replaced the GR-9's with clipless. Not much of an overlap issue now, but it gave me a whole lotta trouble at the start.


http://ch0mb0.net/images/KHS3.jpg


congrats

these bikes are really nice looking. do they ride nicely? I think I want one.

I have wanted one of those for so long, grrr. That will be a fun build.

yeah the older flite 100 with the forward sloping top tube as a rad bike

mine came with 170's and besides the toe overlap they're fine.
even with 165's there would still be toe overlap.
pics later.

yeah the older flite 100 with the forward sloping top tube as a rad bike


Oh I thought we were talking about some sort of pursuit bike not just a track bike with a sloping tt. I retract my retraction

AND YET A-****ING-GAIN

A sloping tt(or different sized wheels)does not a pursuit bike make!

interesting color choice good luck with the new frame - I'll see it on the streets sooner or later

I went with 165's on my KHS and have since replaced the GR-9's with clipless. Not much of an overlap issue now, but it gave me a whole lotta trouble at the start.


http://ch0mb0.net/images/KHS3.jpg


congrats






What size is that frame? How tall are you? This is gonna be a tad bit smaller than my current setup, but nothing that a 100mm stem can't take care of.

Yeah, I'm leaning to the 165's. Hope to get them powdercoated neon yellow along with the seatpost and bars. Maybe this graphic incorporated on it somewhere as well...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/240/461539089_5ea36951e4.jpg

I'll see you around I'm sure.

Oh I thought we were talking about some sort of pursuit bike not just a track bike with a sloping tt. I retract my retraction

AND YET A-****ING-GAIN

A sloping tt(or different sized wheels)does not a pursuit bike make!


i want to see a picture of your face

i want to see a picture of your face

what does my face have to do with turning a functional description into one purely based on hipster style.

Claiming everything that sort of looks like an 80's pursuit frame is a "pursuit bike" is stupid. Most pursuit frames don't look like that and plenty of things that aren't pursuit frames have.

claiming that any misinformation or improper use of nomenclature by people who you assume to be new riders has anything to do with "hipsters" is also pretty stupid, D.

however, i don't know much about the functional differences between, oh, let's call it "traditional track geometry" and pursuit frames. what's the diff, and what function does it serve?

i want to see a picture of your face



oh man, same here!

AND YET A-****ING-GAIN

A sloping tt(or different sized wheels)does not a pursuit bike make!

Thank god you clarified that in time. This really is something worth getting angry about.

claiming that any misinformation or improper use of nomenclature by people who you assume to be new riders has anything to do with "hipsters" is also pretty stupid, D.

however, i don't know much about the functional differences between, oh, let's call it "traditional track geometry" and pursuit frames. what's the diff, and what function does it serve?

Sorry but idolizing pointless **** like downwards sloping tts and different sized wheels as "pursuit" is purely hipster style. It is bike hipsters who have driven up the prices on some of the more distinctive though outdated pursuit designs and now it's more who cause the word to be stuck on anything in the hope that some dumb hipster will buy it so he can say he has a pursuit bike.

They purpose of a pursuit bike should be self explanatory. It's for racing pursuits. It will be designed for the requirements of that discipline(mainly aerodynamics and not turning).

What size is that frame? How tall are you? This is gonna be a tad bit smaller than my current setup, but nothing that a 100mm stem can't take care of.

Yeah, I'm leaning to the 165's. Hope to get them powdercoated neon yellow along with the seatpost and bars. Maybe this graphic incorporated on it somewhere as well...


its a 57 frame, I'm 6ft. 100 stem.

Thank god you clarified that in time. This really is something worth getting angry about.

If it was the first time I had clarified it it wouldn't have been bold or big.

Sorry but idolizing pointless **** like downwards sloping tts and different sized wheels as "pursuit" is purely hipster style. It is bike hipsters who have driven up the prices on some of the more distinctive though outdated pursuit designs and now it's more who cause the word to be stuck on anything in the hope that some dumb hipster will buy it so he can say he has a pursuit bike.


that may just be the case down by you from what I hear.
but many people around here are far too lazy to invest in pursuitish frames and the like

it's the sloping tt, they complain of it hurting their backs.

it's the sloping tt, they complain of it hurting their backs.

Doesn't seem to be too comfortable to me either. I guess we're all in pursuit of something different.


sorry.

ok so who can tell what a pursuit frame is or isnt

Good question. I'm curious myself. From what I understand it involves the riders position being very outstretched forward and as aero as possible.

www.epinions.com/bike-Bicycles-All-KHS-track_trials - 25k

dutret I have to say that I agree with you but there ar emore tacktful ways of saying things ya know kinda like how I did...
anway pursuit frame vs track frame
pursuit bikes are designed with very short trail and very impared steering capabilities the seat tube is often extended above the top tube like modern day tt bikes pursuit bikes also put the ride in a position I like to call ass over elbows where your nose is on the front tire further imparing you turning capabilities
pursuit frames and bikes are designed much like tt bikes where they are meant for straight away speed and not much else at all

the above mentioned khs is an older flite 100 it was a unique track bike design made here in california by khs before they went overseas if I remember correctly the bike came with sg75 cranks and a da wheels and hs and other nice components much like the old gt track bikes

bottom line is purtuis bikes are sillly and horrible for the street

Good question. I'm curious myself. From what I understand it involves the riders position being very outstretched forward and as aero as possible.
wrong the pursuit position is a forward leaning tucked position

bottom line is purtuis bikes are sillly and horrible for the street

but what about if you use a deep drop stem and apehangers?

funny you should say that I have a friend who had a pursuit bike bothe wheels were 700c so it wasn't as nuts as this prologue I wan't to build and he rocked a riser on it which actually brought him up and back into a more normal position

wrong the pursuit position is a forward leaning tucked position

only because the other is banned.

I got it because I've ridden "sloped TT" bikes before and they're fun - twitchy and a lot different than traditional track geometries. Not 40 mile fun, but fun to ride to work and around on the weekend. I know plenty of people who ride these bikes with a 2" riser bar and say they're just as comfy as their other bikes with track drops.

I'll keep my current bike because the intent of this bike is a mearly a play toy. 90deg stem and 2" risers should make it comfy enough for me.

Anyone who complains about "hipsters" ruining **** is kinda ill-contrived and trite. Get over yourself and lighten the **** up...

Yeah, I'll be the first to admit that the fascination with 'tricked-out' bikes is mearly aesthetic, because aesthetics matter to me. Anyone who's any kind of designer will justify it as well. Just because someone seeks out design in different outlets doesn't make them a hipster. In fact, by labeling someone a hipster just makes you boring...

only because the other is banned.
well you gotta play by the rules right

Just because someone seeks out design in different outlets doesn't make them a hipster. In fact, by labeling someone a hipster just makes you boring...

No but mistaking form for function and seeking a specific design that is faddish with hipsters currently probably means you are one. Sorry, but it is the buying and displaying of hip fashion accessories at hip locations that defines hipsters.

This bike does not neccessarily mean you are a hipster(you could be like hcurtis) However, the intersection of people who want "pursuit" looking but not functioning bikes is largely populated with hipsters.

Leave it to Americans to complain about people driving too much in this country and then complain about there being too many "bike heads" years later.

Which side are you on?

... it'd be interesting to see what someone's definition of a hipster is coming from GA. I'm from NC myself and after living in Williamsburg, Bushwick and now Greenpoint I can honestly say there is no clear definition other than someone who is typically under the age of 35 and living in an urban environment.

Again, this argument is pointless. Thanks everyone who supplied useful information and lost the chip off their shoulder...

... it'd be interesting to see what someone's definition of a hipster is coming from GA. I'm from NC myself and after living in Williamsburg, Bushwick and now Greenpoint I can honestly say there is no clear definition other than someone who is typically under the age of 35 and living in an urban environment.


As I've said before it's like porn hard to define but you know it when you see it. This forum needs to get over it's compunctions and just call a spade a spade in this case.

Where did I complain about there being to many "bike heads" or even to many bike hipsters. I may not like some of their faddish pursuits, want to spend much time around them or even expent many of them to be biking much in 5 years but I have never complained about their number specifically.

dude why do you care so much? you need a hobby.

of the 5 bikes i own, this one gets the most miles. an easy 35 last saturday. comfortable as ****. http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2641/khs1rd9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)<p>
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3743/khs2hh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

are those still in production?

those look so awesome. I wish they still made them like that.

discoed in 2002

discoed in 2002
http://www.bbc.co.uk/coventry/content/images/2006/07/10/vics_disco_ball_body_254x264.jpg

HAHA. Mmmmm threadless fork. Sweet ride man!

I wish I wasn't such a cheap bastard and just fork out $270 for a Sugino 75 crankset + BB. Went with RD + Zen Messenger instead.

Is that a 57cm as well? Threw my wheelset, stem and seatpost on it tonight. Fits beautifully. Can't wait to get it all together.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/246/462252785_df629126c3_o.jpg

that looks awesome. id be lying if I said I wasn't jealous.

Would you be willing to sign your soul over?

possibly. this might be the third or fourth time though.

of the 5 bikes i own, this one gets the most miles. an easy 35 last saturday. comfortable as ****. http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2641/khs1rd9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)<p>
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3743/khs2hh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

THOSE AREN'T PURSUIT BARS, HIPSTER!!!

That bike is, however, super hot. I've always had a soft spot for KHSs. My first "real" bike was a fully rigid purple KHS Montana Comp that I loved so f'n much. Stolen. Still miss it.