BMX - V-Tech

anyone hear what's happening.

when you acutally take the time to realize what's happening, it really makes you think.

Yeah, I can't believe all the people that got killed(31). I don't even understand how anyone could do that.

And how would he get through security? They have security in big city colleges right?

what happened. i only heard part of the story

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18134671/?GT1=9246

it's not the how...more the 'why?'

if you have a problem, leave school! Don't start killin' people...it's just sad

list MANY of the stories (http://news.google.com/news?q=SHOOTING+VIRGINIA&hl=en&um=1&ct=title&ie=UTF-8&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=h&as_mind=15&as_minm=4&as_maxd=16&as_maxm=4)

it's not the how...more the 'why?'



That's what I meant.

If only if like a teacher had a gun (and used it), many lives would have been spared.

wow i didnt hear about that. that is crazy what kind of sick minded man could go and do that to all the inacent people

If only if like a teacher had a gun (and used it), many lives would have been spared.

But why would a teacher have a gun?

i dont know why they would but if they did

Yeah it's like what is this world coming to anyway. Things in this world are not getting better as some people believe, but are just getting worse and worse. It will eventually come to a nuclear world war that will kill almost everybody on the planet.

If only if like a teacher had a gun (and used it), many lives would have been spared.
Wow, what a great idea!




Not!!!
Why would you ever want a teacher to have a gun? People keep saying dumb things around here.


wow i didnt hear about that. that is crazy what kind of sick minded man could go and do that to all the inacent people
Dum-de-dum-dum. You're in trouble.

And how would he get through security? They have security in big city colleges right?

the U of MN doesn't/didn't...with an 'open' campus it's hard.
most of the dorms are locked, but if your a student in that dorm, you'll have a key.

But why would a teacher have a gun?
For situations like these. Actually in some places teachers are allowed to bring guns (they of course have to have licenses and stuff), just in case. And while they don't relish the thought of one day perhaps needing to use it on one of their students, they may end up having to do it anyway to save the lives of other innocent people.

Wow, what a great idea!
Not!!!
Why would you ever want a teacher to have a gun? People keep saying dumb things around here.

If a law-abiding teacher had a gun (actually, if all law-abiding teachers carried guns) then there would be a reduction in the number of people dead in school shootings (if the shootings even occured at all after that).

With an idea like that, there would be a lot more shootings of innocent people than people being saved. It's not as great of an idea as you think it is. People with guns is usually not such a good thing.

Actually, think of it this way. If there were several police officers stationed around the schools, you would feel safer, right? Well, if the teachers had the same mentality as the police officers (law-abiding and all) and they had guns, it would be safer for the students. Of course this would never happen because some stupid people can differentiate between an armed citizen and a psychotic mass-murderer.

It's not going to happen. There should just be more security. That's all you can do.

With an idea like that, there would be a lot more shootings of innocent people than people being saved. It's not as great of an idea as you think it is. People with guns is usually not such a good thing.
Keep in mind, more gun laws and gun restrictions do NOT result in safer places. The bad guys (law-breakers) don't obey gun restriction and can easily aquire them on the black market. Once all of the law-abiding citizens turn in their guns, the bad guys will easily be able to do anything they want because the citizens can't defend themselves (police aren't always there to save us you know).

It's not going to happen. There should just be more security. That's all you can do.
Yes, certain teachers should be trained and carry guns (not all teachers I guess) for security purposes.

And kids growing up should be spanked more. Time-outs don't work.

People with guns, for the most part, can not be instructed. Teachers should not have to be required to carry guns or have to get their license and it wouldn't help anyway. You basically said exactly what I said, plus some obvious information.

...Teachers should not have to be required to carry guns or have to get their license and it wouldn't help anyway...
You are right, they shouldn't be required to, but if they want (and have a record of being a good citizen; no past offences) to they should be allowed to bring guns, and should know how to use it (not letting a student take it from them while they aren't looking and all).

If a law-abiding teacher had a gun (actually, if all law-abiding teachers carried guns) then there would be a reduction in the number of people dead in school shootings (if the shootings even occured at all after that).

And the study to support this?


The Red Lake shooting (here in Minnesota) had a guard AND metal detectors at the doors...the shooter just started shooting when he walked through the door.

Man everyone in america wants guns

And if a teacher had a gun and brought down the murderer, that would be the end. Apparently (DUH) a psycho with a gun won't go through the metal detectors (unless of course he first shoots the guard).

Man everyone in america wants guns
As most of them should. It is a right of a law-abiding citizen in America to have a gun (once they are of age of course).

But still, they wouldn't need them if no-one had them. Hardly anyone over here has guns. We have less crime

Guns = more shootings = more death = not a good thing unless completely necessary

Tru dat Gunz

But still, they wouldn't need them if no-one had them. Hardly anyone over here has guns. We have less crime
No guns would work, IF there were no guns. BUT THE FACT IS, law-breakers DON'T turn in their guns when the law says they should. Thus, the innocent are left without protection.

Dug in a hole

Guns = more shootings = more death = not a good thing unless completely necessary
You have that almost right. It should read:
Guns in the wrong hands = more shootings = more death = not a good thing unless completely necessary.

It is a right of a law-abiding citizen in America to have a gun (once they are of age of course).

what about the law-abiding citizen who has a child (or grand-child) that decides to shoot-up a school?
what about the law-abiding citizen who has a child (or grand-child) that decides to SHOOT said law-abiding citizen to GET the gun (and then go shoot up a school)?

If a law-abiding teacher had a gun (actually, if all law-abiding teachers carried guns) then there would be a reduction in the number of people dead in school shootings (if the shootings even occured at all after that).

again...what source is this from?

eightdip...how many school shootings in England in the past 5 years (roughly...that you can think of)?

To be honest I have heard of none

To be honest I have heard of none
must be something in our water...

Haha or its the amount of guns going around the country

combo...too many guns & too polluted water!

Haha.

And how would he get through security? They have security in big city colleges right?
1. v-tech is not a "big city college" its a large university, but its in the middle of nowhere.
2. its a university. universities dont really have security. think of it like high school. pretty much anyone can go in or out. they dont have metal detectors (usually) and im sure the cop ratio is even less.

ps. the scary part about this for me is that its in state which means a huge population of graduates from my high school go on to atend v-tech.

Thermo is basically saying guns don't kill people, people kill people. I think. And I totally agree with him because guns DON'T kill people...psychotic freaks with guns kill people.

It is a right of a law-abiding citizen in America to have a gun (once they are of age of course).

???what???

???what???

"The Right to Bear Arms." The 2nd Amendment.

"The Right to Bear Arms." The 2nd Amendment.

that's not all the 2nd Amendment states...

that's not all the 2nd Amendment states...

Oh. What else does it say?

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be in- fringed."

That definitely was not copy-pasted it.