Classic & Vintage - decals...tape...stuck on my nos frame...

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piwonka
04-17-07, 01:28 PM
i just got an old Miele frame and there is some tape that is over the decals.
when i try to peel it off it just tears and mostly stays stuck on the tubing.
i tried some warm water and that didn't help much.

any advice for getting the tape off without hurting the paint or the decals.


braingel
04-17-07, 01:31 PM
Use a hair dryer on hot to heat them up...they'll peel right off. Your decals are most likely under the clear coat, so they won't be affected. If they are over the clear coat...be careful. You can tell with your fingernail.

And show us pictures!

piwonka
04-17-07, 01:52 PM
i was gonna snap some pics but my camera is MIA...i'll ask my roomie about that one.


Stacey
04-17-07, 01:53 PM
... or lighter fluid.

cyclotoine
04-17-07, 01:58 PM
rubbing alcohol?

seaneee
04-17-07, 02:25 PM
Bestine. It's an adhesive "deactivator", basically, it soaks in, loosens the adhesive and then once dry, the adhesive gets sticky again. Did that make sense?

It's used for mounting artwork onto boards. If you mess up, you coat it in bestine and reposition.

It's sorta toxic, so wear gloves. But I have had good luck with it to remove decals, and it doesn't ruin the artwork.

BTW, what kind of tape is it? If it's plastic coated (i.e. electric tape), most solvents wont work. You better off with the hairdryer method, or even better, a EDIT *heat* gun.

unworthy1
04-17-07, 02:32 PM
Bestine. It's an adhesive "deactivator", basically, it soaks in, loosens the adhesive and then once dry, the adhesive gets sticky again. Did that make sense?

It's sorta toxic, so wear gloves. But I have had good luck with it to remove decals, and it doesn't ruin the artwork.

It's plain toxic, just not as bad as the "original" formula, now banned, which was just benzene, hence the name. I use Nitrile gloves. Lighter fluid (for Zippos not BBQs) is cheaper and easier to find than Bestine, and works better as a glue remover, too...use nitrile gloves.

BTW, what kind of tape is it? If it's plastic coated (i.e. electric tape), most solvents wont work. You better off with the hairdryer method, or even better, a head gun.
I'm sure you meant "heat gun", but no: the guns I use get much too hot too fast, you could damage the paint or start a fire...you'll do fine with a regular hair dryer.

Six jours
04-17-07, 02:45 PM
WD-40 is effective and safe as well.

ricohman
04-17-07, 03:17 PM
WD-40 is effective and safe as well.

I totally agree.

piwonka
04-17-07, 03:19 PM
the tape is like masking tape, the decals are not clearcoated over. i might give the wd40 a try, lighter fluid is also a thought, i use that to deactivate adhesive on tape when regripping golf clubs, that will work i bet.

Six jours
04-17-07, 03:25 PM
the decals are not clearcoated over
That's trouble, maybe. Anything that's going to attack the tape may attack the decals as well. Go carefully.

piwonka
04-17-07, 04:08 PM
That's trouble, maybe. Anything that's going to attack the tape may attack the decals as well. Go carefully.

yeah, i know...this is gonna be fun.

seaneee
04-17-07, 04:27 PM
I'm sure you meant "heat gun", but no: the guns I use get much too hot too fast, you could damage the paint or start a fire...you'll do fine with a regular hair dryer.

No, totally meant "head gun". There very useful, I suggest everyone get one.:D

piwonka
04-17-07, 08:09 PM
pics.
http://flickr.com/photos/73753172@N00/

this is gonna be a weird build, i'm using parts i have laying around and i have to come up with a fork that will fit.

OrangeOkie
04-17-07, 08:24 PM
pics.
http://flickr.com/photos/73753172@N00/

this is gonna be a weird build, i'm using parts i have laying around and i have to come up with a fork that will fit.

You dirty dog. You got a nice one there. It's always easy to discover the young guys on here. They are "digital" savy when it comes to taking and posting pics.

seaneee
04-17-07, 08:49 PM
honestly, if the decals aren't clear coated, I would go the bestine route. That's what it was made for, and I've never had it damage a print or decal from contact. When I say toxic, that's relative. Sorta like paint thinner. You should wear gloves, but if it touches you, you aren't gonna melt or anything. If that was the case, my hands would be long gone.

http://www.dickblick.com/zz239/04/

piwonka
04-21-07, 11:09 AM
i got the decals off.
i fired up the tea pot and used steam to get 'em off, worked real good. a little lighter fluid or bestine and it'll be all cleaned up.

got this fork (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=008&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=180106530249&rd=1&rd=1) for the bike...prolly strip that paint off, i bet it's chrome underneath.

unworthy1
04-21-07, 12:45 PM
i got the decals off.
i fired up the tea pot and used steam to get 'em off, worked real good. a little lighter fluid or bestine and it'll be all cleaned up.

got this fork (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=008&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=180106530249&rd=1&rd=1) for the bike...prolly strip that paint off, i bet it's chrome underneath.
He-he...I almost bid on that very one, but glad it's going to a good home, I don't really need it but thought it might be something cudak888 was looking for. He who snoozes...anyhow, it probably IS all chrome underneath and you got a pretty good deal on it too. See ya at the Eric Dolphy Memorial BBQ :D

robo
04-21-07, 09:13 PM
I'm thinking that brown paper stuff was the backing for the cut out decals themselves... which for some reason didn't get removed. Maybe the idea was that it would protect the decals until it got to the showroom, but they weren't expecting the frame to sit like that for 20 years?

piwonka
04-22-07, 09:21 AM
yeah i think you're right.
the adhesive is really hard, i need to get some bestine after it i think.

unworthy1, yeah dolphy is killer.

robo
04-22-07, 10:47 AM
Have you tried warm soapy water?