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i have a few q's, some stuff that could probably be taken care of by some searching but i'm really tight on time right now:
1) what are the main pro's and con's of cassette vs. freewheel
2) what are the main pro's and con's of straight cable vs. gyro
3) what are the main differences between street, park, and dirt frames
4) what are the main pro's and con's of 4130 vs. hi-ten
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Cassettes come with damn near all decent back wheels. Tmowery made a thread about that not too long ago.
Run brakeless, **** cables and gyros.
Don't worry about that, it's just small geometry differences.
Hi-ten sucks, 4130 is what good frames are made out of. The end.
Engagement and strength, plus gearing choices. Cassettes are just plain better for everything.
Gyro's are useless unless you are throwing triple barspins/tailwhips. They make the brakes harder to set up and are just not worth it.
Street, built strong and have tighter geometry. Park, Built lightish with tight geometry. Trails, Longer, slacker and about as strong as a street frame.
Hi-Ten bends and brakes, it's pure crap.
Cassettes allow you to run smaller gear ratios, and it's easyer to swap the cog / driver size then switching a freewheel. Also more durable for the most part. Straight cables alow a simpler route to your brake with less friction, and therefor are easyer to set up, maintain, and usually brake smoother and have a stronger pull. However if you are good at dialing brakes, then having a gyro can work just as well with a little more fine tuning, and added maintnence. Frames today are basically all very similar, but trail specific frames usually have a longer rear end and mellower headtube angle, and are usually built very light with thin dropouts that would not be a good idea to run pegs with. Park/ street frames are build stonger with thicker dropouts and sometimes steeper headtube angles, for nose manuals and other technical tricks. If you are light and smooth you can probably get away with running some trails frames and riding light street or park with them. Hi-ten steel piping is basicaly a frame built out of water piping. heavy and weak. Chromoly is lighter and ALOT stonger. Anyone serious about getting into BMX should know to stay away from Hi-ten steel ANYTHING.
Cassettes come with damn near all decent back wheels. Tmowery made a thread about that not too long ago.
Run brakeless, **** cables and gyros.
Don't worry about that, it's just small geometry differences.
Hi-ten sucks, 4130 is what good frames are made out of. The end.
Hella word.
Cassettes are for smaller gearing and they are apparently stronger, but when and if they break you are paying twice the price of what you would for a new freewheel if you just had a flip-flop hub. It's your choice. Most people go with cassettes, but there is certainly nothing wrong with freewheels.
Keep your brakes.
I've had many a problem with freewheels going wrong but they last from about 2 months - 2 years, depends which one you get and your luck. I'm a pretty unlucky guy though
At first i though this thread was called "ok a few NOBish questions"
I can't add much to the answers, but in Classic & Vintage, hi-ten steel is commonly referred to as 'gaspipe'. It's heavier overall, and quite often it's seen in 'ladie's' bikes, because the women's bikes were just not made as well as the men's bikes. I'm stuck with hi-ten in most cases because there were not many vintage upper end road bikes made in my tiny size (I don't mean small, I mean 'tiny', as in 48cm or under). In a road bike application it's not necessarily all that bad (because road bikes aren't expected to do tricks), but it would not work very well in a BMX bike!
East Hill
My old bike had cromo main tubes and hi-ten rear stays and I snapped it twice.
I'm going to snap my hi-ten rear triangle soon too. Get chromoly or it's no good.
I'm going to snap my hi-ten rear triangle soon too.
Good luck with that when you can't even ride outdoors yet..
Good luck with that when you can't even ride outdoors yet..
I would say you are correct my friend.
Sorry gunz.
I might have my new frame by then :p.
Decided on what you're getting?
i thoguht he was buliding it.
Maybe someone will make me a frame I want by then.
i want an endemic
Are you certain?
ENDEMIC: belonging or native to a particular people or country
East Hill
yup.
www.endemicbmx.com
You know, I tried looking for endemic and bmx earlier, because I figured that was what you meant.
Google was not my friend today :( .
East Hill
If that frame came in 20.2/20.25 it would be money.
If that frame came in 20.2/20.25 it would be money.
I would bet you could get it custom.
Decided on what you're getting?
Either a Superstar L.M.F or a Sputnic Satelight v.2.
I'm leaning towards the Sputnic though.
the welds on the endemic dropouts are very poorly done. i would not get 1 judging by the picture.
Rome, please use proper spelling and grammar and do not use instant messengers says like "lol" or "1" or any of the sort.
1) There really haven't been pros to having a freewheel on a freestyle bike for the past five years.
2) Straight cable is way easier to set up, but you'll have to unwrap your bars after barspins or whips, or preload the cable. Learn to ride with a straight cable, and once you've gotten pretty good, take the brakes off.
3) There are no real differences, although most trails riders prefer a more mellow headtube angle (74.0-74.5 degree), instead of a steeper one (75 degree).
4) There are no pros, whatsoever, to hi-ten.
1) what are the main pro's and con's of cassette vs. freewheel
cassettes allow more reliablility(IMO) and the use of more compact customaizable gear ratios.
free wheels are a bit outdated today.. sort of a dead technology
2) what are the main pro's and con's of straight cable vs. gyro
ive ran a straight cable forever. i love it, but I want to try a gyro setup.
its all preference there. there will be arguments between friction, drag, and efficiency. flex, ect. i think its more how you dial in a brake that matters.
3) what are the main differences between street, park, and dirt frames
not much, a few slight changes in GEO, but thats about it. i see countless threads about this, I might ask them to sticky one if i make a post about frame geometry and such and its relation to different types of riding.
like i posted earlier today... just ride your bike... having a "street" frame doesnt mean it will render itself inoperable as soon as you get it anywhere near a set of trails.
just ride it, wherever.
4) what are the main pro's and con's of 4130 vs. hi-ten
Chromo is a lighter, stronger alloy.
where as Hi ten is a cheaper, heavier, weaker substitute used on lower end bikes.
stay away from hi ten
Rome, please use proper spelling and grammar and do not use instant messengers says like "lol" or "1" or any of the sort.
Dude, its a BMX forum, not a Quantum Physics discussion.... I think you're overreacting.
not everyone has perfect grammar. Not even you.
On top of that, no one else seems to care.
On top of that, no one else seems to care.
Some of us do :) .
More to the point, it's been requested in the forum guidelines that members use AOL/AIM/l33t speak as little as possible. It's not an absolute requirement, but it's helpful.
[shrug]
East Hill
Dude, its a BMX forum, not a Quantum Physics discussion.... I think you're overreacting.
not everyone has perfect grammar. Not even you.
On top of that, no one else seems to care.
It actually is quite important. How can you search for something if words are spelled wrong? Then, you would be wasting a wealth of information.
Nice.
I've got some newb questions of my own.
Why do people almost always seem to make the angle of their handlebars parallel to the fork? I noticed the pattern and adjusted mine to be that way (they were angled forward a bit more), and it just feels more cramped.
Actually I've been somewhat wondering whether I should just get a cruiser. I'm only 5'11" though, and I like the nimbleness of a 20"...
Because it offers better handling and you get more pop in your front end.
And many people over 6'5" ride 20". Get used to it
Get a frame with a longer top tube.
gyros have no purpose. since you are starting, you dont need a gyro, but use straight cable until you want to go brakeless. i broke my gyro the other night and have a straight cable on the way
3) what are the main differences between street, park, and dirt frames
not much, a few slight changes in GEO, but thats about it. i see countless threads about this, I might ask them to sticky one if i make a post about frame geometry and such and its relation to different types of riding.
like i posted earlier today... just ride your bike... having a "street" frame doesnt mean it will render itself inoperable as soon as you get it anywhere near a set of trails.
I agree. Frame geometry is all about personal preference, pretty much any frame can be used for any different style of riding.
I agree. Frame geometry is all about personal preference, pretty much any frame can be used for any different style of riding.
pretty much
Get a good cassette, the cheap ones are useless.
Get a good cassette, the cheap ones are useless.
Profile, Primo and Odyssey.
Profile being the best. But the other two being really good as well.
Demolition as well. That cassette is very good, especially for the price. I thought they were supposed to have new cassettes coming out, but I haven't heard anything about them in a while.
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