Touring - Burley Nomad or Bob Ibex
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04-24-07, 03:49 PM
Burley Nomad or Bob Ibex
which is better for touring for family of five, mainly road but there will be some off road, not single track or anything but very light trails
04-24-07, 04:17 PM
I love my Bob Yak (Ibex improves only by adding suspension) for heavy loads. I have not used a Nomad.
I would recommend the Bob due to fewer moving parts and the single wheel. In theory it means less stability but I have not had any problems. The benefits of single track are found in narrow clearance areas as well as soft-shoulder areas. Also, only one track through the glass shards to worry about instead of three.
Nomad owners are probably just as supportive of their gear... just try it out. You may be able to contact someone in your local bicycle club to try one or both for a couple training rides.
04-25-07, 08:48 AM
There was a rumour floating around the Tandem forum last year that Burley was getting out of the bike business and going back to their core market. Is this true?
04-25-07, 09:02 AM
thats what my lbs told me, also if you look at their website there appears to be no more recumbants
04-25-07, 08:17 PM
I had for many years a 2-children trailer; since last year, I have a Burley Nomad. No experience with single-wheel trailers, so I can't compare both, but you might look at Alex Wetmore's review of the Bob Coz (http://www.phred.org/~alex/bikes/bobcoz.html) (same principle as the current BOBs) which is followed by his review of the Burley Nomad (http://www.phred.org/~alex/bikes/burleynomad.html). Bear in mind that touring loads are generally bulkier and less heavy than grocery loads, so the handling problems are less significant than what Alex describes.
The BOB definitely has an advantage in singletrack and other adverse conditions. But for other uses, I would highlight the following factors:
– The Nomad is about the width of a cyclist. You have three tracks to account for – a problem in deep snow – but basically you won't need more space on the road than you would need if you didn't have a trailer.
– The Nomad hinges near the rear axle whereas the BOB hinges behind the rear wheel. It makes the Nomad very stable, even in high-speed descents; on the other hand, the BOB handles better if you ride on twisty trails.
– The Nomad has almost twice the capacity of the BOB. That might be useful if you tow the stuff for 5 people in your trailer.
– If you need even more capacity, be aware that you may not use huge panniers like Arkel's TT-84 (at least not the left one) because it will interfere with the trailer's arm. Not sure whether or not that would be a problem with the BOB.
– The BOB works best with a bike that has a rigid rear end, whereas the Nomad works with any bike. If you use an older-style touring bike (1975-1980 style) with slender stays, you'll break spokes like mad and you may even fishtail with the BOB. By contrast, the Nomad works with everything; even behind a trailercycle.
04-25-07, 11:43 PM
I took my BOB Yak on the White Rim Trail a few weeks ago, it performed like a champ! It was bouncing all over the place, but I didn't experience a single issue, so long as I kept the heavy stuff at the bottom. I was riding a Surly Crosscheck. I don't see any reason to spring for the extra $100 for suspension unless you're planning on doing some pretty technical single track.
04-26-07, 04:40 AM
I have towed both two wheeled and single wheeled trailers. For touring to minimize road width I prefer the BobYak. I tracks very well. I had a minor accident one time when traveling on a narrow road with no shoulders and dropped the right wheel of a two wheeled trailer off the edge of the pavement. The edge was sharp enough that it dragged me off the pavement. Would not have happened with a single wheel. All of my children haulers were two wheeled and did the job just fine, but you do have to be aware of the added width.
My BOB Ibex performed very well both on the gravel and dirt roads of South America over 5 months there and then 3 months across Europe.
Except for hills its easy to forget its there, and the suspension stops most of the bouncing I used to get with my Yak.
The one drawback is you can't make it into a "table", if the Yak is turned over its base is flat but the Ibex is on a slant.
04-26-07, 10:18 AM
Jibi, I have never tried to make a "table" with my yak. Thanks for the tip!
04-26-07, 11:51 AM
I looked into both before I bought my Burley Nomad. And even after a couple months of exhaulting the prowess of my Nomad around town, I would 'probably' buy the BOB for touring. A couple of my reaons:
## The BOB tracks directly behind while the Nomad tracks slightly to the left.
## The BOB is much narrower compared to the Nomad.
## The BOB is a single piece design, steel, heavy(er), solid. Both are very well built, but I'm a steel softy. If it
can be broken. I will break it.
That said, I love my Nomad. It can hold about twice as much as the BOB, is more stable with two wheels, and I can drop my bike, like the clutz I am, and not have the whole shebang dump itself on the sidewalk. I put 150 dollars of groceries into it last week, which included about eight bags, and picked up a big bag of dog food from the pet store on my way home. SUV that America. :D
The nomad has a single stay connection gives extra weight on one side.
My ibex has double hanger on the modified QR
I can fold my bike and Ibex so they stand up, other people don't know how to
"lift and shift" the combo so it is harder to steal
cieliazul. Hope the "table" works out for you
both have their good and bad points, its up to you to decide
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