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merider1
 
Okay, so I was thinking today about how there seems to be so few women in this community and on So Cal. I know I'm a dip since I flaked on the Tour de Femmes, but honestly, I wasn't feeling the love (well, okay, some of you were supportive as were some of the men for sure, thank you). But I'm trying to do a head count to see how many women really are on here and if it is feasible to get an Estrogen-ladden ride going. This is the headcount I have:

Caligurl (if she's still here - we may have scared/repulsed her into leaving)
Brandy (hope the back is better!)
Tiffanie (glad your saddle issue has been solved!)
Tracy (can't wait to see you Memorial Day Weekend)
NYgirl777 (ditto!)
Karen (Girl, you've become an official "pretty" billy goat - RS during the week?! :eek: )
Valleygirl - (You've been a "pretty" billy goat and I just watch you as you drop me on the hills :p)
Happytime - (I can't wait until you're on that new bike and on a BF ride!)
FlipFlops - (haven't heard from you for awhile - still riding with the BF?)
BCIPam - (You still mountain biking? I should come join you IF you'll take me on a fire road. :o)
Shnuddy - (I really enjoyed meeting you at Hemet but wish we'd had more time to talk!)
Mv58vw- (You are such a sweetheart sagging all these rides!)
Heddywouldgo - (are you healing, lady? I hope so!)
Redfetish - (haven't heard much from you lately either, but I remember your cool sandals! ;))
Biscuit - (you're a hoot/hottie - you should come visit So Cal for sure!)
Allez Oops - (Looking forward to meeting you as you sound like you'll fit right in already!)
Alicestrong - (Don't know much about you yet - details?? :) )
ApplesforJohn - (We need you on here more and I'm relieved to hear you're getting better)
Velodrome Phoenix (you are impossible to forget and I hope you are back on your bike all healed!!! :))
MErider1 - ("looking for love in all the wrong places, looking for love in too many faces..." Sorry, I love that song and it just popped into my head :p.)

Did I miss anyone? (if so, mea culpa!) Any lurker ladies that are hanging around who want to introduce themselves? We need some So Cal Girl Power! Perhaps this could be a thread for the women to discuss female/so cal related items. I for one, would love some tips on how to keep my skin in check while riding out here in this smog-filled air!

Ladies????? :D


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nygirl777
 
Well this femme is having some issues :eek: I was really feeling wounded after the cactus hugger ride...wasn't sure if it was my seat or my shorts or both but nonetheless wounded. The night after the ride I noticed some severe swelling and......i won't get graphic :) The next morning I couldn't sit on my bike seat the pain was so bad. I decided my recovery ride would be a "standing" ride and just practice on riding out of the saddle. Anyhow I finally got into my OB-GYN this morning and I have a hemotoma (bruise ) and I busted a few blood vessels that turned into huge clots :cry: :cry: I thought it was hernia for sure....felt like my small intenstines had come through some tissue. Anyhow he said I shouldn't ride for 3 weeks.....and he will see me again on the 23rd and if it doesn't get re-absorbed by my body then I have to go under the knife :eek: I have to use heat and switch it up with cold.........so I've been using my hand warmers from snowboarding and then ice bags.......I am going to do my last ride Saturday the tour de fire and then chill out til the Encinitas ride. So if this all doesn't work out this femme is going to have to have a sex change :p


tprevost
 
hey babe, you gotta spell my name w/a "Y" as right now you're referring to Indolent58's lovely bride :p who should also be on the 'list' ;)


Brandy
 
The back is feeling much better, thank you!

I would like some decorating tips...so if anyone with more decorative style and flair than I have (btw...it would be hard to NOT have more style and flair than me) would like to accompany to me Home Depot to pick out paint for a windowless bathroom...and my whole condo for that matter, let me know. :p


tprevost
 
Well this femme is having some issues :eek: I was really feeling wounded after the cactus hugger ride...wasn't sure if it was my seat or my shorts or both but nonetheless wounded. The night after the ride I noticed some severe swelling and......i won't get graphic :) The next morning I couldn't sit on my bike seat the pain was so bad. I decided my recovery ride would be a "standing" ride and just practice on riding out of the saddle. Anyhow I finally got into my OB-GYN this morning and I have a hemotoma (bruise ) and I busted a few blood vessels that turned into huge clots :cry: :cry: I thought it was hernia for sure....felt like my small intenstines had come through some tissue. Anyhow he said I shouldn't ride for 3 weeks.....and he will see me again on the 23rd and if it doesn't get re-absorbed by my body then I have to go under the knife :eek: I have to use heat and switch it up with cold.........so I've been using my hand warmers from snowboarding and then ice bags.......I am going to do my last ride Saturday the tour de fire and then chill out til the Encinitas ride. So if this all doesn't work out this femme is going to have to have a sex change :p

Okay Missy... you'd better be all repaired by Memorial Day... I'm just sayin' :p


nygirl777
 
Okay Missy... you'd better be all repaired by Memorial Day... I'm just sayin' :p

yeah I think I should up my protein with all the blood loss ......... :D sounds kinda planned huh :)


VelodromePhoeni
 
Ahem -- you forgot me. Of course, I'm a little hard to keep track of. I keep transforming into somebody else.

Two items. One -- my club, PAA, Has just recently started its own "tour de femmes" -- the PAA Ladies/Fun Ride. It is almost identical in concept to the Tour de Femmes -- easy pace (15-16mph), moderate distance (25-30 miles, max), encouraging atmosphere, focused on new/developing cyclists, men more than welcome to join the fun, and a coffee stop at the end of the ride. Since this is an EXISTING ride, there's nothing to organize. Sooooo, I'm hereby officially inviting all BFers to come join the PAA Ladies/Fun Ride. There are two scheduled for this month -- Sunday May 6th, and Sunday, May 20th. Start is Lot K at the Rose Bowl (Pasadena), roll out at 8:00 am (or as soon as everyone has their make-up on, ahem, ME Rider1). Route follows the Montrose ride to Arcadia, short cut up to the Montrose finish point in Sierra Madre, rest break, ride back to Pasadena along Orange Grove, stop at Starbucks near the Rose Bowl for a Koffee Klatsch, back to Lot K. Max time, 2 1/2 hours.

Second item -- protecting your skin. MOISTURIZE, ladies. Instead of leaping into one's lycra like a He-Man Tuff Guy, take the time to cleanse and then moisturize with a good moisturizer. The moisturizer will protect your skin from the elements (dry air, smog). Then, apply sun screen (I'm the naughty girl who always omits this step), which will protect against the sun. And if you do that you should be good to go. And be sure, post ride, to cleanse all the crap off your face (I can't believe how much grime I get on my face, just from a couple of hours on the road), and apply more moisturizer. ten minutes before and after a ride paying attention to basic skin care can make a huge difference.

The Velodrome Phoenix, transforming once again in to BIG SISTER OMNISCIENT WHITE GODDESS


merider1
 
:eek: :eek: :eek: Renee! I suck! I'm so sorry!!!!! Yes, I'll add you immediately! :o


merider1
 
hey babe, you gotta spell my name w/a "Y" as right now you're referring to Indolent58's lovely bride :p who should also be on the 'list' ;)

Mea culpa :o I always call you Trac, so I forgot it's with a Y. :D


BigSean
 
Hey, what about us men? You cant leave us out. Its soooooo, um, today.:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:


merider1
 
The back is feeling much better, thank you!

I would like some decorating tips...so if anyone with more decorative style and flair than I have (btw...it would be hard to NOT have more style and flair than me) would like to accompany to me Home Depot to pick out paint for a windowless bathroom...and my whole condo for that matter, let me know. :p

Good to hear! :) I've had back stuff too and it's no fun for sure. I suck with the decorative stuff, but if you and Tiff and others want to make it a Home Depot/Brewery stop, I'm all over it. ;) :D


merider1
 
Well this femme is having some issues :eek: I was really feeling wounded after the cactus hugger ride...wasn't sure if it was my seat or my shorts or both but nonetheless wounded. The night after the ride I noticed some severe swelling and......i won't get graphic :) The next morning I couldn't sit on my bike seat the pain was so bad. I decided my recovery ride would be a "standing" ride and just practice on riding out of the saddle. Anyhow I finally got into my OB-GYN this morning and I have a hemotoma (bruise ) and I busted a few blood vessels that turned into huge clots :cry: :cry: I thought it was hernia for sure....felt like my small intenstines had come through some tissue. Anyhow he said I shouldn't ride for 3 weeks.....and he will see me again on the 23rd and if it doesn't get re-absorbed by my body then I have to go under the knife :eek: I have to use heat and switch it up with cold.........so I've been using my hand warmers from snowboarding and then ice bags.......I am going to do my last ride Saturday the tour de fire and then chill out til the Encinitas ride. So if this all doesn't work out this femme is going to have to have a sex change :p
Oh, good Lord. Take care, Asia. Did the riding cause it?! :eek: You know sometimes when I ride too hard and long, my uterus and ovaries cramp for hours but no period. I often wonder what I'm doing down there. And don't get me started on the whole loss of feeling issue in the...ahem...:mad: Anyway, NO Sex change for you. NOT possible - you too pretty. :D


merider1
 
Hey, what about us men? You cant leave us out. Its soooooo, um, today.:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
OUT! Right this minute! And that goes for the rest of you testosterone creatures! :mad: And I mean it.

Just in case you think I don't - I'm going to be discussing my lack of having a period in here and the the spotting in between and the cramps and the bloated breasts. Okay? So, have all you men left yet? :rolleyes:


VelodromePhoeni
 
ME -- yes, I'm back on my bike. In fact, I am proud to announce that I did my first Century -- April 21. The "Home Sweet Home" Century, as I did it all by myself, starting from my house. 104 miles in 11:55 hours. So, I'm not a roadie virgin anymore. I "did the deed," and went "all the way." Finally.

Also, if I've been a little not in evidence, it's because I've got me a feller. And we're planning to "do it" for the "first time" this Saturday -- our first ride together. I'm a little nervous. But I've promised to be gentle with him . . . . He's a little nervous and scared, because I'm so experienced. That Century has him a little intimidated. Well, I'll just have to get him a copy of "The Joy of Cycling" before the "big day."

VP, once again seducing virgins . . . .


merider1
 
Ahem -- you forgot me. Of course, I'm a little hard to keep track of. I keep transforming into somebody else.

Two items. One -- my club, PAA, Has just recently started its own "tour de femmes" -- the PAA Ladies/Fun Ride. It is almost identical in concept to the Tour de Femmes -- easy pace (15-16mph), moderate distance (25-30 miles, max), encouraging atmosphere, focused on new/developing cyclists, men more than welcome to join the fun, and a coffee stop at the end of the ride. Since this is an EXISTING ride, there's nothing to organize. Sooooo, I'm hereby officially inviting all BFers to come join the PAA Ladies/Fun Ride. There are two scheduled for this month -- Sunday May 6th, and Sunday, May 20th. Start is Lot K at the Rose Bowl (Pasadena), roll out at 8:00 am (or as soon as everyone has their make-up on, ahem, ME Rider1). Route follows the Montrose ride to Arcadia, short cut up to the Montrose finish point in Sierra Madre, rest break, ride back to Pasadena along Orange Grove, stop at Starbucks near the Rose Bowl for a Koffee Klatsch, back to Lot K. Max time, 2 1/2 hours.

Second item -- protecting your skin. MOISTURIZE, ladies. Instead of leaping into one's lycra like a He-Man Tuff Guy, take the time to cleanse and then moisturize with a good moisturizer. The moisturizer will protect your skin from the elements (dry air, smog). Then, apply sun screen (I'm the naughty girl who always omits this step), which will protect against the sun. And if you do that you should be good to go. And be sure, post ride, to cleanse all the crap off your face (I can't believe how much grime I get on my face, just from a couple of hours on the road), and apply more moisturizer. ten minutes before and after a ride paying attention to basic skin care can make a huge difference.

The Velodrome Phoenix, transforming once again in to BIG SISTER OMNISCIENT WHITE GODDESS

I'm going to get back to you on both items above. I'm jumping off for now to go join Herb's hill ride. I need to whip my sad quads into shape! :D


tprevost
 
The back is feeling much better, thank you!

I would like some decorating tips...so if anyone with more decorative style and flair than I have (btw...it would be hard to NOT have more style and flair than me) would like to accompany to me Home Depot to pick out paint for a windowless bathroom...and my whole condo for that matter, let me know. :p

bummer I'm not down there... I love to paint! :p There's something really cool about how putting a coat of paint can transform an entire room :D


jschen
 
I'm going to be discussing my lack of having a period in here and the the spotting in between and the cramps and the bloated breasts. Okay?
I'm not squeamish as long as it doesn't involve my own blood. (And even then I've become better about not minding.) Carry on.


nygirl777
 
Oh, good Lord. Take care, Asia. Did the riding cause it?! :eek: You know sometimes when I ride too hard and long, my uterus and ovaries cramp for hours but no period. I often wonder what I'm doing down there. And don't get me started on the whole loss of feeling issue in the...ahem...:mad: Anyway, NO Sex change for you. NOT possible - you too pretty. :D

Yeah the doc said he had 3 women in the last week with this.........the seat, the friction, the long hours on the bike............ so I ordered my Assos :) yippee cant wait for them to come. I think I have been riding on the seams in my shorts.....they must get caught up in the grove.....


VelodromePhoeni
 
Yes. I agree. No one with less than TWO X CHROMOSOMES allowed. And while we're discussing the nuts and bolts of gynecology, I've got more than a few fibroids, i've come to find out, and the time may have come to have to have them out. I am a little scared. I don't want to have to have surgery if I can avoid it. Fibroids will dry up and go away if you can just hold on through menopause, but that blessed event seems like a mirage on the horizon. Every time I think I've FINALLY reached menopause, I get another one of those darned periods again, and I'm having them EVERY THREE WEEKS, which is REALLY ANNOYING. Gosh -- I've been impatient to get through with menopause for 35 years now. When is it ever going to come? I think I'll still be menstruating when I'm 80!! Post menopausal women are the only people I truly envy. The young ones can keep their thin thighs and flat stomachs. I WANNA BE POST-MENOPAUSAL!!!

VP


nygirl777
 
The back is feeling much better, thank you!

I would like some decorating tips...so if anyone with more decorative style and flair than I have (btw...it would be hard to NOT have more style and flair than me) would like to accompany to me Home Depot to pick out paint for a windowless bathroom...and my whole condo for that matter, let me know. :p

Glad you're better Brandy..........My decorating tips are stolen from Model homes..... I have no creativity. Zero Zilch. :(


nygirl777
 
Yes. I agree. No one with less that TWO X CHROMOSOMES not allowed. And while we're discussing the nuts and bolts of gynecology, I've got more than a few fibroids, i've come to find out, and the time may have come to have to have them out. I am a little scared. I don't want to have to have surgery if I can avoid it. Fibroids will dry up and go away if you can just hold on through menopause, but that blessed event seems like a mirage on the horizon. Every time I think I've FINALLY reached menopause, I get another one of those darned periods again, and I'm having them EVERY THREE WEEKS, which is REALLY ANNOYING. Gosh -- I've been impatient to get through with menopause for 35 years now. When is it ever going to come? I think I'll still be menstruating when I'm 80!! Post menopausal women are the only people I truly envy. The young ones can keep their thin thighs and flat stomachs. I WANNA BE POST-MENOPAUSAL!!!

VP

Birth control pills assist in combatting Fibroids. But they can laser them out which is virtually painless.


jschen
 
Okay, VP, I will not say another peep in this thread until the next time I post here.


Brandy
 
Good to hear! :) I've had back stuff too and it's no fun for sure. I suck with the decorative stuff, but if you and Tiff and others want to make it a Home Depot/Brewery stop, I'm all over it. ;) :D

Hmmm...drunken paint selection? It has to be better than me staring at those damn cards for hours and walking away still not knowing what I want!

bummer I'm not down there... I love to paint! :p There's something really cool about how putting a coat of paint can transform an entire room :D

Come visit??? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?

Glad you're better Brandy..........My decorating tips are stolen from Model homes..... I have no creativity. Zero Zilch. :(

Anything would make this place look better...think white walls with little people handprints all over them. :eek: Oh...and crappy carpet in a color that should be banned from places where little people roam. I'm going to ask my parents for laminate flooring for my birthday...how sad is that? :p

I need to make this place "mine" now that STBX is kinda moved out...time to make it purty!


jpconrad
 
Ahem -- you forgot me. Of course, I'm a little hard to keep track of. I keep transforming into somebody else.

Two items. One -- my club, PAA, Has just recently started its own "tour de femmes" -- the PAA Ladies/Fun Ride. It is almost identical in concept to the Tour de Femmes -- easy pace (15-16mph), moderate distance (25-30 miles, max), encouraging atmosphere, focused on new/developing cyclists, men more than welcome to join the fun, and a coffee stop at the end of the ride. Since this is an EXISTING ride, there's nothing to organize. Sooooo, I'm hereby officially inviting all BFers to come join the PAA Ladies/Fun Ride. There are two scheduled for this month -- Sunday May 6th, and Sunday, May 20th. Start is Lot K at the Rose Bowl (Pasadena), roll out at 8:00 am (or as soon as everyone has their make-up on, ahem, ME Rider1). Route follows the Montrose ride to Arcadia, short cut up to the Montrose finish point in Sierra Madre, rest break, ride back to Pasadena along Orange Grove, stop at Starbucks near the Rose Bowl for a Koffee Klatsch, back to Lot K. Max time, 2 1/2 hours.

The Pasadena Triathlon Club has started doing Female Friendly Rides, too. I think they do them every Saturday morning, at least they have recently. http://www.pasadenatriclub.com/


heddywouldgo
 
I'm here! I like to think that I'm riding with you guys in spirit :) Someday soon hopefully...
I haven't ridden a bike since Feb. 18th :eek:. I've built up a purdy new bike that is just dying to be ridden and it just stares at me longingly from the corner of my room :)


Go_Fast
 
*lurking*


chipcom
 
Did I miss anyone?

http://www.chipcom.net/pvt/bdg1.jpg


Allez Oops
 
^^ Damn. I knew that photo would come back to haunt me someday. :cry:


JanB
 
I'm here but not sure I've ever posted but I'm a friend of Tracy's. The one she met in the parking lot at her old lbs. I live in Temecula and would love to join a ride with the So Cal group.


tprevost
 
I'm here but not sure I've ever posted but I'm a friend of Tracy's. The one she met in the parking lot at her old lbs. I live in Temecula and would love to join a ride with the So Cal group.


Hi Jan!!! ((((waving wildly))))

Hope you get to join a ride soon.... these guys/gals are the BESTEST!!!

Trac'


scvroadie
 
Yeah the doc said he had 3 women in the last week with this.........the seat, the friction, the long hours on the bike............ so I ordered my Assos :) yippee cant wait for them to come. I think I have been riding on the seams in my shorts.....they must get caught up in the grove.....

They make great shorts, and the chamois is the best in the world. But I also recommend their Chamois Cream, I have always used it and now that my wife is cycling she has always used it. Knock on wood, neither one of us have not had any issues.


alicestrong
 
Hey I'm on that list...

Whadda ya wanna know?? ;o)


Tiffanie
 
I'm up for a drunken painting party. :D Would I have to paint within the lines? :eek:


Brandy
 
I'm up for a drunken painting party. :D Would I have to paint within the lines? :eek:

I'll give you one of the big walls. :D


Tiffanie
 
I'll give you one of the big walls. :D

PERFECT! :roflmao:


Brandy
 
Okay...well tomorrow I'll go to Home Depot and grab one of everysinglecolorcard and you can help me pick. :p


Shnuddy
 
Well this femme is having some issues :eek: I was really feeling wounded after the cactus hugger ride...wasn't sure if it was my seat or my shorts or both but nonetheless wounded. The night after the ride I noticed some severe swelling and......i won't get graphic :) The next morning I couldn't sit on my bike seat the pain was so bad. I decided my recovery ride would be a "standing" ride and just practice on riding out of the saddle. Anyhow I finally got into my OB-GYN this morning and I have a hemotoma (bruise ) and I busted a few blood vessels that turned into huge clots :cry: :cry: I thought it was hernia for sure....felt like my small intenstines had come through some tissue. Anyhow he said I shouldn't ride for 3 weeks.....and he will see me again on the 23rd and if it doesn't get re-absorbed by my body then I have to go under the knife :eek: I have to use heat and switch it up with cold.........so I've been using my hand warmers from snowboarding and then ice bags.......I am going to do my last ride Saturday the tour de fire and then chill out til the Encinitas ride. So if this all doesn't work out this femme is going to have to have a sex change :p

I (almost) tend to feel that any MAN that could get through Asia's issues and a few of the others posted in such a short time without turning tail and running like mad to the "Guy Thread" might be allowed to lurk. Remember though, men, there will be a test. :D Burp--oops :p :rolleyes:


jpconrad
 
They make great shorts, and the chamois is the best in the world. But I also recommend their Chamois Cream, I have always used it and now that my wife is cycling she has always used it. Knock on wood, neither one of us have not had any issues.

One thing about their Chamois Cream, though, is that it has menthol in it so you might want to test it out prior to a long ride just to make sure it's not going to cause you any discomfort as it does get warm somewhat.


Drew12
 
One thing about their Chamois Cream, though, is that it has menthol in it so you might want to test it out prior to a long ride just to make sure it's not going to cause you any discomfort as it does get warm somewhat.


So, your saying this is a warming cream?
hhmmm.....
( I'm going back to the guy thread")


Tiffanie
 
One thing about their Chamois Cream, though, is that it has menthol in it so you might want to test it out prior to a long ride just to make sure it's not going to cause you any discomfort as it does get warm somewhat.

Warming? :D


nygirl777
 
Warming? :D

wow it must be for after riding activities....put it on before the century starts and then by the end..................bammmmmmmmmmm:p


LCI_Brian
 
http://www.chipcom.net/pvt/bdg1.jpg
Wait, you can't post here, you're not .......................................... from Southern California. :D


ronjon10
 
The back is feeling much better, thank you!

I would like some decorating tips...so if anyone with more decorative style and flair than I have (btw...it would be hard to NOT have more style and flair than me) would like to accompany to me Home Depot to pick out paint for a windowless bathroom...and my whole condo for that matter, let me know. :p

I can't make it, but I like Lightening White. It's one of those Ralph Lauren Polo colors. It's about the color of a light butter on the wall. I use it in a room that doesn't get much natural light and the color really makes the room feel sunnier. Plus since it's yellowish, it's really easy to match things with it and it looks good with a white trim. That's all I've got. Leaving thread now.


donnamb
 
I would like to take the opportunity to let all the women reading this thread know that we have a women's forum here on Bike Forums, and if you don't have access, PM me and I will get you access. (And guys, don't even bother trying it ... I will sick jschen on you if you do. :p )


Mo'Phat
 
Drunken Painting Party? I'll bring my fence, kay?!


ps...Donna...you've singlehandedly killed SoCal forums by given the women another place to go. ;)

pps...ME, Siu Blue Wind should be honorary...even though she's NoCal.


Indolent58
 
Did I miss anyone?

Gina?
Kristine?


Mr. Beanz
 
I don't let Gina play on the forums,errr, I mean she doesn't play on the forums. She works on the 'puter all day and last thing she wants is to come home for more. She's busy out spending my money,err, I mean her money!:D

As far as the butter stuff. I used Queen Helene cream. Hmmm, I had smooth.....uh, nevermind. OK, but wasn't good enough. I'm using Bagbalm now. $6 at Walmart in the pet section. Works much better. Doesn't dry up like the Queen. Plus it's medicated. Was developed for cow utters. That's why it's in the pet section.


chipcom
 
Wait, you can't post here, you're not .......................................... from Southern California. :D

...yet :eek:


Happytime
 
Second item -- protecting your skin. MOISTURIZE, ladies. Instead of leaping into one's lycra like a He-Man Tuff Guy, take the time to cleanse and then moisturize with a good moisturizer. The moisturizer will protect your skin from the elements (dry air, smog). Then, apply sun screen (I'm the naughty girl who always omits this step), which will protect against the sun.

+1
:o


BCIpam
 
ME:

I have 4 beginner MTB rides coming up in Limestone Canyon (it finally reopens May 15). The dates are:

May 20
May 27
June 2
June10

Limestone Canyon is a beautiful, pristine fire road through Natural Oak woodlands. Not many wildflowers this year but it's still a beautiful area. The rides are out and back - so we travel 4 - 5 miles uphill (gradually and depending if we do the hill to Bolero Springs) and then downhill all the way back. These rides aren't exactly for absolute beginners - people just getting on a bike but would be OK for someone who is strong on a road bike and trying out MTB for the first time. The ride may be too slow for you but at least you get a chance to play in the dirt.

If you are interested check out irlrtrust.org; Let's go Outside, Activities. You can sign up for the rides online. If you need a mountain bike, I might have one you can borrow (if you can use a medium). Otherwise, anytim I'll take you out on some of the trails around OC, let me know.


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