SaiKaiTai
05-02-07, 07:11 PM
I'm thinking -right now- of doing just that.
Tell me why I shouldn't
Tell me why I shouldn't
Fifty Plus (50+) - I never ride three days in a row
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Digital Gee
05-02-07, 07:17 PM
I'm thinking -right now- of doing just that.
Tell me why I shouldn't
You'll spoil a lifetime streak.
Tell me why I shouldn't
You'll spoil a lifetime streak.
oilman_15106
05-02-07, 07:20 PM
Can not think of a good reason to give.
Floyd
05-02-07, 07:22 PM
Third time is charm...
Red Rider
05-02-07, 07:24 PM
Begin a new habit, to go with your new bike.
What are you waiting for? You're burning daylight!
Yep, I'm an instigator :D and proud of it.
What are you waiting for? You're burning daylight!
Yep, I'm an instigator :D and proud of it.
byte_speed
05-02-07, 08:05 PM
I think skipping days is good to prevent over training and burnout. If you are just itching to ride, you are probably not likely to do either of these.
Go for it.
Go for it.
Mojo Slim
05-02-07, 08:20 PM
Go.
SaiKaiTai
05-02-07, 08:23 PM
Another 8.5 miles down... Did I say I love this bike?
Tomorrow, though, an enforced layoff -it's practice night- and Friday is a rest day before my big Saturday outing.
Tomorrow, though, an enforced layoff -it's practice night- and Friday is a rest day before my big Saturday outing.
Big Paulie
05-02-07, 08:31 PM
My experience is that that "spreading" mileage out over consecutive days -- as opposed to loading up your mileage by riding every second or third or fourth day -- is completely different emotionally and physically. Neither is better or worse, they're just different.
Of course, if you ride a lot every day and your overall mileage increases, then that's another thing altogether.
I did back-to-back centuries in the summer of '05, and as hard as it was to get going the second day, it was very zen-like once I got back in the groove. The third day felt weird not to ride, as tired as I was. I rode 60 miles on the fourth day, and it felt like a ride around the block. My legs were still tired, but mentally, I was prepared for a much longer effort, so it was easy.
Of course, if you ride a lot every day and your overall mileage increases, then that's another thing altogether.
I did back-to-back centuries in the summer of '05, and as hard as it was to get going the second day, it was very zen-like once I got back in the groove. The third day felt weird not to ride, as tired as I was. I rode 60 miles on the fourth day, and it felt like a ride around the block. My legs were still tired, but mentally, I was prepared for a much longer effort, so it was easy.
Tom Bombadil
05-02-07, 08:36 PM
The seminar I attended this spring given by a knee specialist strongly advised against working out hard three days in a row. Said she treated a lot of knee injuries due to overly hard workout schedules. One attendee asked if they biked hard two days in a row, then should she run hard on the third day. The Doc emphatically said NO!
Said this was especially true once one got over 40 or so. That you didn't need to push this hard to stay in condition and that the joints and muscles needed those days off.
Said it was okay to exercise lightly on the third day, a cool-down day so to speak. So it was okay to bike or run almost every day, as long as you took it easy every 2nd or 3rd day.
Said this was especially true once one got over 40 or so. That you didn't need to push this hard to stay in condition and that the joints and muscles needed those days off.
Said it was okay to exercise lightly on the third day, a cool-down day so to speak. So it was okay to bike or run almost every day, as long as you took it easy every 2nd or 3rd day.
SaiKaiTai
05-02-07, 09:42 PM
Truth is, I'm a firm believer in "One day on, one day off". My legs need a rest day to get their "snap" back
Or maybe that's just how I've trained 'em.
But I'm still "learning" the LeMond -well, the whole roadbike thing, really- so I don't mind putting in some extra time. I haven't really had to push so I don't... except coming up the hill home, no choice there.
But I'm starting to feel pretty at home on this new toy so a couple days off sounds pretty good to me
I ain't gonna make this a habit. I'm going back to my Fisher during the week, anyway
Or maybe that's just how I've trained 'em.
But I'm still "learning" the LeMond -well, the whole roadbike thing, really- so I don't mind putting in some extra time. I haven't really had to push so I don't... except coming up the hill home, no choice there.
But I'm starting to feel pretty at home on this new toy so a couple days off sounds pretty good to me
I ain't gonna make this a habit. I'm going back to my Fisher during the week, anyway
stonecrd
05-03-07, 05:04 AM
Do what works best for you. For me I ride hard tempo for 4 days in a row, Tues-Fri and do a long 60+mi ride on Sundays. This works very well for me, taking Sat before the long ride and Mon after the long ride helps my legs recover. Doing the long rides make the 20mi rides much easier. If I go out and don't feel up to pushing it I just keep my HR around 75% and take it easy. There is no reason you cannot ride everyday but riding hard everyday would take its toll.
kk4df
05-03-07, 05:12 AM
I'm thinking -right now- of doing just that.
Tell me why I shouldn't
I only try not to ride 3 times in the same day. Take one or two days off a week.
Tell me why I shouldn't
I only try not to ride 3 times in the same day. Take one or two days off a week.
DnvrFox
05-03-07, 05:43 AM
I never ride three days in a row
Would you ride three days in a bicycle? I've never ridden in a row.
Just kidding.
Seriously, there is something called "listening to your body." I really believe in that. It will readily tell you when you are pushing too hard, and then it is important, IMHO, to change your routine or have a period (1 day or more) of rest.
Would you ride three days in a bicycle? I've never ridden in a row.
Just kidding.
Seriously, there is something called "listening to your body." I really believe in that. It will readily tell you when you are pushing too hard, and then it is important, IMHO, to change your routine or have a period (1 day or more) of rest.
maddmaxx
05-03-07, 06:42 AM
When I grew up on the farm, we rode sometimes in rows. Their a lot like ruts only harder to get out of.
Beverly
05-03-07, 06:47 AM
When I grew up on the farm, we rode sometimes in rows. Their a lot like ruts only harder to get out of.
When I grew up on the farm, I made those rows with a John Deere and plow:D
When I grew up on the farm, I made those rows with a John Deere and plow:D
maddmaxx
05-03-07, 07:13 AM
When I grew up on the farm, I made those rows with a John Deere and plow:D
And I sat on a seat on the planter being towed behind.
And I sat on a seat on the planter being towed behind.
MichiganMike
05-03-07, 07:30 AM
I guess you try and see how it feels. I would think it depends on the type of riding you do. I am trying to get my "tour pace" going so I am riding everyday I can. I am more of a plowhorse and less of a racehorse these days so I don't think it's a big deal for me.
Artkansas
05-03-07, 08:33 AM
Just make them back to back.
I tend to ride whenever there's a need. And without a car, that's pretty much every day.
I tend to ride whenever there's a need. And without a car, that's pretty much every day.
HopedaleHills
05-03-07, 08:38 AM
You CA guys are spoiled by good weather. Our good weather season is so short and good weather days so infrequent that I would never pass up a good day to ride. During our best time of year (July/August) I ride 6 days a week. The rest of the year the weather determines our days off for us.
xlrogue
05-03-07, 10:18 AM
As you are discovering, road bikes are highly addictive. I ride pretty much every day because it just feels so damn good(and yes, us CA guys are spoiled, particularly those of us fortunate enough to live in the Bay Area). I have to warn you though--those 8.5 mile jaunts will start doubling in length at some point. My standard ride was 7.5 mi. for a long time, then one day I followed a whim that ended up doubling that--and never went back. (Well, occasionally, when time is tight--but 7.5 now feels like better than nothing but not nearly enough.) Lately 15 is turning into 20 or 25 more often than not. I should probably think about joining Road Bikes Anonymous.
SaiKaiTai
05-03-07, 11:01 AM
As you are discovering, road bikes are highly addictive. I ride pretty much every day because it just feels so damn good(and yes, us CA guys are spoiled, particularly those of us fortunate enough to live in the Bay Area). I have to warn you though--those 8.5 mile jaunts will start doubling in length at some point. My standard ride was 7.5 mi. for a long time, then one day I followed a whim that ended up doubling that--and never went back. (Well, occasionally, when time is tight--but 7.5 now feels like better than nothing but not nearly enough.) Lately 15 is turning into 20 or 25 more often than not. I should probably think about joining Road Bikes Anonymous.
Darned straight about them being "addictive" (oh, hate I hate that now trite and overused term)
I had no intention at all of going out last night but as quitting time approached and I could see how nice the weather had turned out (it was supposed to rain) and then saaw the sparkling calm water as I dropped down into Pacifica, I could just feel the urge, the pull. I knew I HAD to ride.
Keep in mind, my normal after work ride is about 10-12 miles... I stop and smell the roses a couple of times so it takes me about an hour or more. Monday I did over 11 miles but I came in at around 48 minutes. Even with stopping. I know I'll be seeing more distance there; if I can do more in the same amount of time, then why not? Tuesday and Wednesday, I had intended on just doing 1/2 hour "mini-rides". That I came in last night with 8.5 miles in a little over a 1/2 hour was pretty encouraging. You're right, it's totally easy -almost effortless- to rack up miles on this bike. I was crusing along at 95rpm, doing about 15,16 mph and my HR was sitting at 112bpm. That NEVER happens ('course I was pumping 174 at the top of the hill coming home but that's another story). I'm going to start trying to pace myself uphill at about 75rpm and see if that helps my stamina and duration in the hills. My hill home is 11%, Saturday I'll be climbing an 8% and see how that goes. Coming soon is my 2 mile 6-7% climb out of Dodge. Can't wait.
Now, do I get a B17N for the LeMond? That's the big question ;)
Darned straight about them being "addictive" (oh, hate I hate that now trite and overused term)
I had no intention at all of going out last night but as quitting time approached and I could see how nice the weather had turned out (it was supposed to rain) and then saaw the sparkling calm water as I dropped down into Pacifica, I could just feel the urge, the pull. I knew I HAD to ride.
Keep in mind, my normal after work ride is about 10-12 miles... I stop and smell the roses a couple of times so it takes me about an hour or more. Monday I did over 11 miles but I came in at around 48 minutes. Even with stopping. I know I'll be seeing more distance there; if I can do more in the same amount of time, then why not? Tuesday and Wednesday, I had intended on just doing 1/2 hour "mini-rides". That I came in last night with 8.5 miles in a little over a 1/2 hour was pretty encouraging. You're right, it's totally easy -almost effortless- to rack up miles on this bike. I was crusing along at 95rpm, doing about 15,16 mph and my HR was sitting at 112bpm. That NEVER happens ('course I was pumping 174 at the top of the hill coming home but that's another story). I'm going to start trying to pace myself uphill at about 75rpm and see if that helps my stamina and duration in the hills. My hill home is 11%, Saturday I'll be climbing an 8% and see how that goes. Coming soon is my 2 mile 6-7% climb out of Dodge. Can't wait.
Now, do I get a B17N for the LeMond? That's the big question ;)
BluesDawg
05-03-07, 11:30 AM
Now, do I get a B17N for the LeMond? That's the big question ;)
Only if you have a narrow a$$. The normal B17 fits my sit bones just right.
Only if you have a narrow a$$. The normal B17 fits my sit bones just right.
SaiKaiTai
05-03-07, 11:33 AM
Hard to say... both of my current saddles -Bontrager Race Lux's- measure out at 155mm or thereabouts.
The B17 is ~170mm and the "N" is 152mm. The Bontragers feel fine.
The B17 is ~170mm and the "N" is 152mm. The Bontragers feel fine.
stapfam
05-03-07, 03:24 PM
Hard to say... both of my current saddles -Bontrager Race Lux's- measure out at 155mm or thereabouts.
The B17 is ~170mm and the "N" is 152mm. The Bontragers feel fine.
You have either got the numb butt syndrome or you have not tried many saddles. The Bontager saddle is normally the first thing to get upgraded.
The B17 is ~170mm and the "N" is 152mm. The Bontragers feel fine.
You have either got the numb butt syndrome or you have not tried many saddles. The Bontager saddle is normally the first thing to get upgraded.
SaiKaiTai
05-03-07, 03:36 PM
I wouldn't rule out both, actually. My Kaitai came with a Bontrager. My LeMond came with a Bontrager.
Before that, you have to go back 20 years to my Gitane. I don't remember what it came with but it was soon replaced with an Avocet (remember them?). That about sums up my experience with saddles. Don't forget, you are dealing with a naif. So keeping in mind that I am truly ignorant, yes, the Bontragers feel fine. Also keep in mind that I am a former and still borderline Clyde. I have a lot of padding. I *have* found that, as that padding diminishes, my butt feels the Bontrager more.
edit: Oh, and by "feel fine", I meant my bones seem to set well on that width.
Before that, you have to go back 20 years to my Gitane. I don't remember what it came with but it was soon replaced with an Avocet (remember them?). That about sums up my experience with saddles. Don't forget, you are dealing with a naif. So keeping in mind that I am truly ignorant, yes, the Bontragers feel fine. Also keep in mind that I am a former and still borderline Clyde. I have a lot of padding. I *have* found that, as that padding diminishes, my butt feels the Bontrager more.
edit: Oh, and by "feel fine", I meant my bones seem to set well on that width.
Terrierman
05-03-07, 06:41 PM
Why change a saddle that is comfortable? And about riding three nights in a row, last week when the weather was good I rode six nights in a row. None of them were marathons, nothing over 25 miles, but I can honestly say the more often I ride the better I feel, especially in the knees.
Red Rider
05-03-07, 11:59 PM
Darned straight about them being "addictive" (oh, hate I hate that now trite and overused term)
I had no intention at all of going out last night but as quitting time approached and I could see how nice the weather had turned out (it was supposed to rain) and then saaw the sparkling calm water as I dropped down into Pacifica, I could just feel the urge, the pull. I knew I HAD to ride.
Keep in mind, my normal after work ride is about 10-12 miles... I stop and smell the roses a couple of times so it takes me about an hour or more. Monday I did over 11 miles but I came in at around 48 minutes. Even with stopping. I know I'll be seeing more distance there; if I can do more in the same amount of time, then why not? Tuesday and Wednesday, I had intended on just doing 1/2 hour "mini-rides". That I came in last night with 8.5 miles in a little over a 1/2 hour was pretty encouraging. You're right, it's totally easy -almost effortless- to rack up miles on this bike. I was crusing along at 95rpm, doing about 15,16 mph and my HR was sitting at 112bpm. That NEVER happens ('course I was pumping 174 at the top of the hill coming home but that's another story). I'm going to start trying to pace myself uphill at about 75rpm and see if that helps my stamina and duration in the hills. My hill home is 11%, Saturday I'll be climbing an 8% and see how that goes. Coming soon is my 2 mile 6-7% climb out of Dodge. Can't wait.
Now, do I get a B17N for the LeMond? That's the big question ;)
I can't comment on the B17N because I don't know what that is. >hangs head in shame at ignorance<
I *do* know that this road thing is addictive. Now in my second year of serious roadiness, I'm becoming more discriminating as to what weather I'll tolerate. Mostly if I have the time & the inclination I'll be on the road, and if I can my hubby to break out the tandem, so much the better.
In summer I try to take off 1 day a week -- but the perfect weather & a flexible schedule often allow me more...and unless I'm hurting I'll take every available day as it comes. Yeah, I'm hooked. :D
I had no intention at all of going out last night but as quitting time approached and I could see how nice the weather had turned out (it was supposed to rain) and then saaw the sparkling calm water as I dropped down into Pacifica, I could just feel the urge, the pull. I knew I HAD to ride.
Keep in mind, my normal after work ride is about 10-12 miles... I stop and smell the roses a couple of times so it takes me about an hour or more. Monday I did over 11 miles but I came in at around 48 minutes. Even with stopping. I know I'll be seeing more distance there; if I can do more in the same amount of time, then why not? Tuesday and Wednesday, I had intended on just doing 1/2 hour "mini-rides". That I came in last night with 8.5 miles in a little over a 1/2 hour was pretty encouraging. You're right, it's totally easy -almost effortless- to rack up miles on this bike. I was crusing along at 95rpm, doing about 15,16 mph and my HR was sitting at 112bpm. That NEVER happens ('course I was pumping 174 at the top of the hill coming home but that's another story). I'm going to start trying to pace myself uphill at about 75rpm and see if that helps my stamina and duration in the hills. My hill home is 11%, Saturday I'll be climbing an 8% and see how that goes. Coming soon is my 2 mile 6-7% climb out of Dodge. Can't wait.
Now, do I get a B17N for the LeMond? That's the big question ;)
I can't comment on the B17N because I don't know what that is. >hangs head in shame at ignorance<
I *do* know that this road thing is addictive. Now in my second year of serious roadiness, I'm becoming more discriminating as to what weather I'll tolerate. Mostly if I have the time & the inclination I'll be on the road, and if I can my hubby to break out the tandem, so much the better.
In summer I try to take off 1 day a week -- but the perfect weather & a flexible schedule often allow me more...and unless I'm hurting I'll take every available day as it comes. Yeah, I'm hooked. :D
dauphin
05-04-07, 12:17 AM
I've ridden 81 days this year...can't remember the last time I "didn't" ride.
MNBikeguy
05-04-07, 07:10 AM
As you are discovering, road bikes are highly addictive.
Whadda talkin about. I can quit anytime. It's just a little recreational use. Really.. I can quit if I want to. It's not like I'm hurting anybody. And those days missed from work because I was riding? I was sick. really... no kiddin. I've got it completely under control....:D
Whadda talkin about. I can quit anytime. It's just a little recreational use. Really.. I can quit if I want to. It's not like I'm hurting anybody. And those days missed from work because I was riding? I was sick. really... no kiddin. I've got it completely under control....:D
tlc20010
05-04-07, 03:09 PM
The seminar I attended this spring given by a knee specialist strongly advised against working out hard three days in a row. Said she treated a lot of knee injuries due to overly hard workout schedules. One attendee asked if they biked hard two days in a row, then should she run hard on the third day. The Doc emphatically said NO!
Said this was especially true once one got over 40 or so. That you didn't need to push this hard to stay in condition and that the joints and muscles needed those days off.
Said it was okay to exercise lightly on the third day, a cool-down day so to speak. So it was okay to bike or run almost every day, as long as you took it easy every 2nd or 3rd day.
It strikes me that doing 20 or 30 or 40 miles at 12 or 15 miles an hour would hardly qualify as "working out hard." There are lots of folks who routinely commute to and from work every day, and many of them ride on the weekend as well. My knee guy said that it is the impact and torquing (running, basketball, football, tennis, etc.) that can cause the real damage. Also spinning is a lot easier on the knee than mashing, so keep that cadence up....
Said this was especially true once one got over 40 or so. That you didn't need to push this hard to stay in condition and that the joints and muscles needed those days off.
Said it was okay to exercise lightly on the third day, a cool-down day so to speak. So it was okay to bike or run almost every day, as long as you took it easy every 2nd or 3rd day.
It strikes me that doing 20 or 30 or 40 miles at 12 or 15 miles an hour would hardly qualify as "working out hard." There are lots of folks who routinely commute to and from work every day, and many of them ride on the weekend as well. My knee guy said that it is the impact and torquing (running, basketball, football, tennis, etc.) that can cause the real damage. Also spinning is a lot easier on the knee than mashing, so keep that cadence up....