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RalphP
 
Last week, we had a report on the Touring Forum of a woman seriously injured while bicycle touring in Florida. The thread discussion pushed several of my bottons and I thought I'd describe here what I am thinking as of possible use for anyone who tours, or is thinking of touring, and who hasn't already set his techniques in cement.
(1) The bicyclist was wearing a helmet and suffered a possibly serious head injury anyway. There can be no doubt that her injury would have been worse without the helmet. However, there are two kinds of bicycle accidents: the avoidable and the unavoidable. Hers, as described below, was of the avoidable kind. My opinion is that a bicycle accident, especially if it involves a motor vehicle, is most likely to be a major catastrophe. The avoidable class of accidents must be completely eliminated from the realm of touring possibilities. Before going on a tour, a bicyclist should have done enough years of bicycling to have that degree of wisdom and skill. I live in central Florida, where no-shoulder, fast two-lane roads are the norm. Bicyclists ride on these roads for recreation. Each one has his little helmet on for his protection but is chosing to ride where every car must drive around him, and probably slow to a near stop before doing so to avoid a head-on collision. Evey driver? Even the drunks, the incompetants, the distracted, the infuriated bicycle haters? Yes. But you know it's not going to happen that way. Every once and awhile one of the drivers-who-aren't driving will pick off a bicyclist. One can avoid getting killed that way by not riding on those roads. Don't let the helmet fool you.
(2) The injured bicyclist was towing a trailer. The accident was apparently caused when a cross wind blew the trailer, and with it the bicycle, into traffic. Smasho. Trailers are quite popular on the Touring Forum. In addition to wind, they are said to cause handling issues on the downhills. Today, I read a thread by a fellow boasting how minimalist he was and seriously discussing what kind of trailer he might use on his cross country trip. What I would say is, if tens of thousands of people have travelled to hell and back on bicycles without trailers, and if trailers clearly impair the handling of the bicycle, then trailers fall into the class of avoidable risks to one's life and limbs.
(3) I do not know what specific road the injured bicyclist was riding on but I do know that high speed two lane roads, totally lacking in room for bicycles, basically cover the State of Florida. 70mph or more is not an unusual speed on these roads. (I myself once slowed down my M/C to 90mph for the occasion of passing a patrol car, parked on the side of the road, and was not stopped.) I recommend against planning any tour from a point A to B, such as a "cross country tour," that does not include all the buses, trains, and planes needed to avoid long stretchs of inappropriate roads. I am opposed to any "ideal" of bicycle rights, adherence to State road laws, or good sounding accomplishment labels that will create avoidable risks. Rather, I'd say, discover and identify areas where fine bicycling can be enjoyed, string them together as best you can and, where you cannot, feel no shame or hesitancy to load your bike on a train and enjoy your tour the easy way for awhile.


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wheel
 
I would rather cycle than troll.


randya
 
Florida: The worst state in the union for bicyclist safety.


RalphP
 
wheel wrote:I would rather cycle than troll.

I'm sorry it sounds like that. It is a sincerely meant post.


wheel
 
Each one has his little helmet on for his protection but is chosing to ride where every car must drive around him, and probably slow to a near stop before doing so to avoid a head-on collision. Evey driver? Even the drunks, the incompetants, the distracted, the infuriated bicycle haters? Yes. But you know it's not going to happen that way. Every once and awhile one of the drivers-who-aren't driving will pick off a bicyclist. One can avoid getting killed that way by not riding on those roads. Don't let the helmet fool you.

(3) (I myself once slowed down my M/C to 90mph for the occasion of passing a patrol car, parked on the side of the road, and was not stopped.)

I recommend against planning any tour from a point A to B, such as a "cross country tour," that does not include all the buses, trains, and planes needed to avoid long stretchs of inappropriate roads. I am opposed to any "ideal" of bicycle rights, adherence to State road laws, or good sounding accomplishment labels that will create avoidable risks. Rather, I'd say, discover and identify areas where fine bicycling can be enjoyed, string them together as best you can and, where you cannot, feel no shame or hesitancy to load your bike on a train and enjoy your tour the easy way for awhile.



Telling people how to cycle, Telling people you pass cops at 90mph, Telling people to get off the road.

It's not wanted here. This thread is disgusting


Tom Stormcrowe
 
Telling people how to cycle, Telling people you pass cops at 90mph, Telling people to get off the road.

It's not wanted here. This thread is disgusting
Agreed!


Dahon.Steve
 
The OP probably visited the injured cyclist in person and her seen her present condition made him/her write the post. We don't know what he saw but it was probably very scary and gut wrenching. This can happen when one sees death face to face.

I agree with his assumption on trailers. They are dangerous and one should consider panniers or maybe a Surly Big Dummy.

From what I understand, there maybe safe roads in Florida and these routes have been recorded by Adventure Cycling Association. Too many cyclist choose fast roads on high volume roads for touring and this is a mistake. To create a "Back Roads" route, you either need a special State map for cyclists or one for the Adventure's group. If you're going to do it on your own, you'll need a GPS and quality time in designing a route away from interstates or turnpikes.


joejack951
 
I read through the thread in the touring forum. There's a whole lot about helmets in there, a tiny smattering of talk about trailers, and nothing about sharing the road with motorists in Florida. How does one conclude from that thread that cycling on the roads in Florida with (or without) a trailer is asking for death?

I use a Burley Flatbed trailer and have towed some significant weight for different reasons (commuting, shopping, car repair) and have never noticed a significant effect on my bikes handling (other than taking longer to stop from the extra weight). Wind has never posed a problem (at least not 35mph gusts). Having packed my rear panniers with 40+ lbs. of stuff and having towed 80-120 lbs. in a trailer, if I need to move a lot of weight by bicycle, the trailer is the much better method in my experience with the bikes I have at my disposal.


sgtsmile
 
Telling people how to cycle, Telling people you pass cops at 90mph, Telling people to get off the road.

It's not wanted here. This thread is disgusting

Also agreed, and @ the op, are you part of the problem? 2 lane roads are NOT for 90 plus mph driving!!! (If I did that here, I would lose my license to drive, and deserve it!)


genec
 
Too many cyclist choose fast roads on high volume roads for touring and this is a mistake. To create a "Back Roads" route, you either need a special State map for cyclists or one for the Adventure's group. If you're going to do it on your own, you'll need a GPS and quality time in designing a route away from interstates or turnpikes.

Having done some touring in the 80's and 90's I can tell you that some routes simply have no "Back Roads" route. For instance. across southern California to Arizona, there is no other road except the interstate. Across Texas, the only routes were either interstates or "farm hiway roads" with typical speeds of over 50MPH. BTW GPS devices did not exist back when I toured... I did just fine with plain old road maps.


wheel
 
From what I understand, there maybe safe roads in Florida and these routes have been recorded by Adventure Cycling Association. Too many cyclist choose fast roads on high volume roads for touring and this is a mistake. To create a "Back Roads" route, you either need a special State map for cyclists or one for the Adventure's group. If you're going to do it on your own, you'll need a GPS and quality time in designing a route away from interstates or turnpikes.


For starters if it is not deemed safe enough there will be a sign probhibiting pedestrians and cyclists.
Maybe you should direct your attention to the people (drivers) making the road unsafe.


FYI I use the interstate because the law allows me too. It is the motorists job to ensure they are driving in a safe manner not mine.


noisebeam
 
Florida: The worst state in the union for bicyclist safety.
While I don't doubt that there is room for improvement in FL, I wonder what data supports it as being the worst.

Maybe it is because folks can cycle year round in FL leading to highest fatality rate in US?

Maybe VT and WI are really the worst?

http://www.mcdot.maricopa.gov/bicycle/issues/IPfatality.pdf

Al


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