Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - gear ratios for skidding

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mrap
05-08-07, 02:31 PM
ive been trying to learn how to skid for awhile, and i cant seem to do it, what would be a good gear ratio for skidding.


Boss Moniker
05-08-07, 02:33 PM
I started on like 65 or so. Make sure you have clipless pedals, or really tight straps, because you need to pull up with your front foot.

And honestly, do a ****ing search. There have been so many threads about this.

mander
05-08-07, 02:35 PM
The lower the better. Something 70 or downwards should be fine for learning. Really though the key is to try skidding on a low traction surface; dry pavement is a difficult skidding surface for a noob. Find a grassy area, some rotten leaves, wet and oily pavement, or whatever, and give er there.


Revolution Smmr
05-08-07, 02:40 PM
why would you pick your gear ratio based on skidding? it's a bike... ride it.

p.s. I'm sorry to be harsh, but really...

chase.
05-08-07, 02:43 PM
Remember that static friction is higher than kinetic friction, so the tire takes more force to break free than to hold a skid. Shifting your weight forward on your hands (a friend of mine says "balls to the stem") helps with that.

BostonFixed
05-08-07, 02:43 PM
42x17

jodypolk
05-08-07, 02:57 PM
20x20 should do the trick.

Revolution Smmr
05-08-07, 02:58 PM
20x20 should do the trick.

for the 1 toe skid?

me thinkst
05-08-07, 03:08 PM
Try hopping the rear of the bike to get used to unweighting and locking up the rear wheel.

And use a brake until you get confidence...

zacked
05-08-07, 03:26 PM
40 gear inches
180mm stem with long bullhorns
Stayer fork
48cm frame
24" front wheel
No saddle
Duct tape around the outside of the tire
On an ice rink

Jerseysbest
05-08-07, 03:26 PM
Try hopping the rear of the bike to get used to unweighting and locking up the rear wheel.

And use a brake until you get confidence...

Yeah, I've been riding a fixed gear for a while (lots of miles), with brakes. Skidding just came naturally one day, my brakes weren't adjusted right cause of taking the front wheel off all the time and one time I applied a lot of force to come to complete stop cause a car pulled out in front of me, and made a nice skid with barely any effort. Back paddling and skidding use, at least for me, totally different muscles than normal riding and I guess I developed them over time as I started to rely more and more on them to slow down and stop.

nobrainer440
05-08-07, 05:28 PM
I found that small gravel or dirt (like a baseball diamond) was the best surface for learning to skid.

Re: the original question:

The lower the ratio, the easier it will be to skid, but assuming your ratio isnt ridiculous, you should be able to do it. Practice riding around with as much weight on the bars as possible. "Balls to stem" is a good way to think about it. As you get better and stronger, you can shift you weight backwards more and stop faster.

Pfutz
05-08-07, 06:57 PM
why would you pick your gear ratio based on skidding? it's a bike... ride it.

p.s. I'm sorry to be harsh, but really...


Seriously, shut up. We all get that you are really cool cause you don't give a **** about frills and are super hardcore and ride to ride and all that stuff, but some people just want to ****ing do whatever, so shut up. Furthermore, if he is riding brakeless, learning to skid is a pretty helpful part of riding the bike.

Ellis4TW
05-08-07, 07:05 PM
I've found that 2 glasses of red wine works best. I learned to skid after I'd had a few - more in tune with the world around me - when I figured it out. Oh, and it was a patch of wet bricks that made it easy. Ok, maybe it wasn't the wine. It was completely me. And the wet bricks.

170mm cranks
49/16

Now I can do it almost anywhere.

*\o/*

Ellis4TW
05-08-07, 07:10 PM
Seriously, shut up. We all get that you are really cool cause you don't give a **** about frills and are super hardcore and ride to ride and all that stuff, but some people just want to ****ing do whatever, so shut up. Furthermore, if he is riding brakeless, learning to skid is a pretty helpful part of riding the bike.

*golf clap*

andre nickatina
05-08-07, 07:49 PM
I've found that 2 glasses of red wine works best. I learned to skid after I'd had a few - more in tune with the world around me - when I figured it out. Oh, and it was a patch of wet bricks that made it easy. Ok, maybe it wasn't the wine. It was completely me. And the wet bricks.

170mm cranks
49/16

Now I can do it almost anywhere.

*\o/*

jesus, we are twins. same ratio, same crank length, same state of mind.

+10 for buzzed bike riding off the red wine.

Half-Impressive
05-08-07, 11:06 PM
just get your nuts on the stem and lean forward when you lock your legs. you'll do it.


I can't imagine leaning so far forward that you couldn't skid and just fall before you get the chance to.

MLPROJECT
05-08-07, 11:08 PM
i use the same gear ratio for when i'm dropping a deuce

G0balistik
05-08-07, 11:21 PM
all the gear ratios work.

Revolution Smmr
05-09-07, 08:52 AM
Seriously, shut up. We all get that you are really cool cause you don't give a **** about frills and are super hardcore and ride to ride and all that stuff, but some people just want to ****ing do whatever, so shut up. Furthermore, if he is riding brakeless, learning to skid is a pretty helpful part of riding the bike.

did I ever say he shouldn't learn to skid? All I said is that choosing a gear ratio based on skidding is ridiculous. As long as he picks a normal gear ratio he'll be able to skid with some practice, just like everyone else who has ever gotten on a fixed gear. Better that he picks a ratio that he'll actually have fun riding on than one that's only 60 gear inches that will get him dropped by anyone he rides around with. Oh, and as for the "we all get that you are really cool" line, my myspace address is at the bottom of every post I make, so everyone in this forum can go see how uncool I really am. I wish more people did that.

Pfutz
05-09-07, 09:29 AM
did I ever say he shouldn't learn to skid? All I said is that choosing a gear ratio based on skidding is ridiculous. As long as he picks a normal gear ratio he'll be able to skid with some practice, just like everyone else who has ever gotten on a fixed gear. Better that he picks a ratio that he'll actually have fun riding on than one that's only 60 gear inches that will get him dropped by anyone he rides around with. Oh, and as for the "we all get that you are really cool" line, my myspace address is at the bottom of every post I make, so everyone in this forum can go see how uncool I really am. I wish more people did that.


This is a substantially more constructive post that your first one, which was so cliche and generic that I knew someone was going to say befor I even clicked the thread. The point is, we get it, we get that half the kids in this forum are going to bring down any sort of question someone asks, and the people posing those questions get it too, so just save everyone the trouble and just not bother saying it.

You can sleep easy knowing you may not be as stupid as everyone else, but you are not going to help anyone out by just throwing in side comments, so if you are not helping anyone out then what are you doing? Most of the time it seems 2/3rds of the posters in this forum are just jerking off their own egos.

babychris
05-09-07, 11:39 AM
40 gear inches
180mm stem with long bullhorns
Stayer fork
48cm frame
24" front wheel
No saddle
Duct tape around the outside of the tire
On an ice rink


hahaha.

piwonka
05-09-07, 12:41 PM
Seriously, shut up. We all get that you are really cool cause you don't give a **** about frills and are super hardcore and ride to ride and all that stuff, but some people just want to ****ing do whatever, so shut up. Furthermore, if he is riding brakeless, learning to skid is a pretty helpful part of riding the bike.

well, you know, he shouldn't be riding without a brake if he can't skid...

Pfutz
05-09-07, 01:05 PM
well, you know, he shouldn't be riding without a brake if he can't skid...


If you ask me nobody should be riding without a brake even if they can skid, but thats me.

MLPROJECT
05-09-07, 03:15 PM
OMGz DON't skidz if yr breakless... jeez guyz

DC_Emily
05-09-07, 03:21 PM
oh jesus. no one wants to give this kid a straight answer.
try a nice low gear, I learned on 49x18. I don't know how many gear inches that is. I hate math.
Good luck. don't hurt yourself.

Toodles.

DC_Emily
05-09-07, 03:24 PM
p.s.you coulda used the search button for this.

piwonka
05-09-07, 03:29 PM
gosh.

ok, mrap, what is your current gearing?
it's all about technique, gearing will help some but not much.
you want about 68-72 gear inches i would guess.

fetch
05-09-07, 04:16 PM
this thread now has a gere ratio of 1

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Richard-Gere---American-Gigolo-Photograph-C10104686.jpeg

piwonka
05-09-07, 05:04 PM
lol, but the gay ratio is way higher now.

Retem
05-09-07, 06:07 PM
5 is a good one

loaf
05-09-07, 06:38 PM
try whatever you've got on some wet grass, it worked for me.

Retem
05-09-07, 06:54 PM
4is great on

brocktstar
06-02-12, 10:48 PM
ive been trying to learn how to skid for awhile, and i cant seem to do it, what would be a good gear ratio for skidding.

I would get your rear cog set to 17, that way there are 17 skid patches, and always will be no matter what your crank is.

jammincakes
06-02-12, 10:58 PM
I first learned on 44:17, which is about 2.5 gr. Now I skid on 46:15 and 46:17. Surface choice is key for learning how to skid, but muscle the rear pedal HARD and you'll learn how much effort for each skid.

Bullhorns/pursuit bars help move the weight forward a bit as well, but risers have worked fine for me.

Build your own
06-03-12, 06:02 AM
http://www.nextmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/zombies_b_slow_8.gif

FWIW skidding is so '07

hadeone
06-03-12, 07:42 AM
Furthermore, if he is riding brakeless, learning to skid is a pretty helpful part of riding the bike.

Really? Can anyone explain how skidding is beneficial?

jammincakes
06-03-12, 11:09 AM
Really? Can anyone explain how skidding is beneficial?
When brakeless, skidding is the most secure and quickest way to stop. Skiddzzzz für daaaayyyzzzzz

Nagrom_
06-03-12, 11:10 AM
When brakeless, skidding is the most secure and quickest way to stop. Skiddzzzz für daaaayyyzzzzz

I wouldn't say that, but it is a way to stop...

xavier853
06-03-12, 11:19 AM
58/12 skids dayz

jammincakes
06-03-12, 11:20 AM
I wouldn't say that, but it is a way to stop...
But it does include style points. Is there a faster way to stop? Skip stopping?

dddavid
06-03-12, 11:25 AM
I would get your rear cog set to 17, that way there are 17 skid patches, and always will be no matter what your crank is.

I have a 51. 17 patches for me too?? :D

m4rx12
06-03-12, 12:29 PM
start by leaning forward on the handlebars and locking one knee against the pedal coming around, while bracing your quads against the handles. Start by putting litterally all of your weight on the front fork ant trying to skid, then you can get into fancier stuff. For example one leg over the handles.

jammincakes
06-03-12, 12:30 PM
I have a 51. 17 patches for me too?? :D
no... 1 skid patch. 2 if you can skid ambidextrously! 50:17 would give you 17 though

solipsist716
06-03-12, 12:30 PM
This thread is made of stupid.

m4rx12
06-03-12, 12:30 PM
my ratio is 16 - 44 btw

ben4345
06-03-12, 07:46 PM
ef u needz 2 skidz i haz 12349 to 25686151213 rayshe-o it iz koolz yo!i!i!i!

evilcryalotmore
06-03-12, 08:24 PM
60x12 like me

gigantor
06-03-12, 08:31 PM
Why in the hell would you want to ride a bike with 17 skid patches on the rear tire. Sounds like a ****ty day to me.

ben4345
06-03-12, 08:57 PM
Why in the hell would you want to ride a bike with 17 skid patches on the rear tire. Sounds like a ****ty day to me.

Perhaps she has a lot of old tires to use up?