Touring - What do you do with your shorts?

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sweetnsourbkr
05-14-07, 03:00 PM
I like to wash my shorts after every ride. If you're on a multi-day tour, do you bring a spare wardrobe or do you reuse? What about the laundry?
I bring an extra pair. Wash out every nite. Carry a small amount of liquid detergent. Wrap them up in a towel and stand on them and get most water out. Hang out to air dry. I don't do any camping. Did too much in army.
Shiznaz
05-14-07, 03:13 PM
As soon as you get into the campsite (or whenever you feel like it), jump in the shower, lather yourself up head to toe, rinse, and then walk yourself dry, or hang the clothes and put on fresh ones.
jamawani
05-14-07, 03:24 PM
Shower?
After three or four days you don't have to worry about people cutting in front of you in grocery store lines. After a week the shorts become a permanent part of your body. Plus it keeps the mosquitos away.
People who do remote touring look, act, and smell different than people who do light touring.
Shiznaz
05-14-07, 03:30 PM
Even in the middle of nowhere its best to at least wash your shorts and wipe down your undercarriage... Wearing the same shorts for a whole week is a surefire recipe for cantankerous saddle sores. Thats uncool even if you're cool being filthy and stinky.
I take 3 pairs of shorts and jerseys. I could probably get by with only two but I don't like putting damp shorts on and sometimes it takes more than a day to get my washed stuff dry. It also allows me to use my extra jersey as a t-shirt on an off day, so I take fewer "off bike" clothes.
I wash my day's biking clothes when I get to my hotel/campsite and leave them over the back rack the next day until they dry.
Ray
greenstork
05-14-07, 06:05 PM
Slightly off topic, what do you typically use to wash your clothes? Do most folks bring a small supply of laundry detergent? Liquid or powder?
I use a liquid body soap (Dr. Bronner's). It is also good for washing clothes. I usually put the stopper in the sink, pour in some warm water, apply the soap right onto the fabric, push on it and squeeze it for a minute or so and then rinse.
Ray
I bring an extra pair. Wash out every nite. Carry a small amount of liquid detergent. Wrap them up in a towel and stand on them and get most water out. Hang out to air dry.
+1 you can do this with very little water in camp in need be. If you have a comfy saddle [brooks and such] get some seamless boxers [ex officio] and then you can skip the bike shorts. Quick dry boxers are much easier to wash and dry.
ride until 8:00 PM, start looking for camp spots. find one before dark, set up tent, etc.. get in tent. strip off shorts, clean yo self with wet wipes / baby wipes. let yourself dry a bit, (check maps, read book, make phonecalls, etc) put on clean shorts and socks. pass out. dream of amazing things....... .......wake up, eat cookie you saved from days ride before,. pack up stuff. start riding. stop at a diner/mcdonalds/starbucks/dunkin donuts/deli/breakfast place, etc. bring in your small bottle of liquid soap and your previous days shorts and socks. go to bathroom. wash them in the sink. brush your teeth and wash your grimy face. wring out your newly clean clothes. walk outside and bungee the wet gear to your bike. walk back inside and consume caffeine, sugar, protein and carbohydrates. talk with locals and hang for a while, get the feel of the places youre visiting. pay bill, walk outside and ride on, clothes will be dry in a few hours ready for the next day...
~Stv
cyccommute
05-14-07, 09:33 PM
I take 3 pairs of shorts and jerseys. I could probably get by with only two but I don't like putting damp shorts on and sometimes it takes more than a day to get my washed stuff dry.
I wash my day's biking clothes when I get to my hotel/campsite and leave them over the back rack the next day until they dry.
Ray
Same here. I hate doing laundry every night...I have other things to do...and I won't wear the same pair of shorts twice. It was a hard and painful lesson :eek:
Bicycle clothes can even be dried in a drier if you use a low setting. Been doing it for years.
As for showers and clean up, I don't go more than a couple of days without a shower. I sweat buckets constantly and after a single day of riding, I've got enough salt caked on me that cars are lining up to do speed runs.;)
sweetnsourbkr
05-15-07, 07:57 AM
Thanks for the tips everyone. These give me a better understanding of what's gonna happen when I do my first tour. My riding partner won't be a very reliable higienist, I'd reckon, so it's nice to know what other people do.
BigBlueToe
05-15-07, 08:36 AM
I try to take a shower every night. When I do, I take the day's shorts and jersey in with me and wash them by hand. I use CampSuds. It also works for my dishes. It will even work as body wash and shampoo in a pinch. I wring the shorts and jersey out as best I can, then hang them up. In the morning, if they're not dry, I drape them over my luggage and let them dry as I ride. If it's raining, I'll wait and let them finish drying in my tent. (Although, if it's going to be raining a lot, I'll look for a motel.)
If I can't shower, I wear the clothes a second time. After a few days of this, I wash things in a cooking pot. Sponge baths on your armpits and "nether regions" is a good idea to prevent chafing, saddle sores, and general funkiness.
I usually carry three pairs of shorts and three jerseys. If I'm riding in a place with lots of showers (like the Oregon coast) I get by with two pairs of shorts and two jerseys.
I try to take a shower every night. When I do, I take the day's shorts and jersey in with me and wash them by hand. I use CampSuds. It also works for my dishes. It will even work as body wash and shampoo in a pinch. I wring the shorts and jersey out as best I can, then hang them up. In the morning, if they're not dry, I drape them over my luggage and let them dry as I ride. If it's raining, I'll wait and let them finish drying in my tent. (Although, if it's going to be raining a lot, I'll look for a motel.)
If I can't shower, I wear the clothes a second time.
That's exactly what I do.
acantor
05-15-07, 02:58 PM
For my credit card tours, I carry one pair of cycling shorts and one jersey, and wash them every night in a sink with liquid soap, or I take them in the shower with me. I wring them out, and if staying in a motel or B+B, wrap them in a towel to extract additional water. Then hang to dry. The clothes are almost always dry in the morning. If still damp, I wear them anyway, and body heat usually completes the drying process before I finish breakfast.
I used to take two of everything to avoid washing clothes everyday, but I found that I usually had to wash SOMETHING. So now I spend 5 or 10 minutes doing laundry everyday, and carry a little less in my panniers.
This works because I have a dry place every night. If I were camping, I probably would take more than one of each item.
MichiganMike
05-15-07, 04:29 PM
I credit card it. I take the one pair of shorts and one jersey (depending on the weather). I carry a nylon mesh laundry bag (from one of those Dollar Stores). Not real big. After I wash the stuff, I put it in the bag, go outside and spin it over my head. That gets most of the water out. Then I just hang it up over night to finish drying. I was always afraid of getting carried away with wringing my shorts out in a towel or something.
I bring two pair of shorts with me, and I'm never more than 10 days from a laundry facility. 5 days in one pair and 5 days in the next is usually my maximum.
Pack the pair you've just worn for 5 days straight at the top of your pannier to ward off potential thieves and people who might be curious what you've got in your panniers.
As for laundry soap, as I mentioned in another thread, I bring a small bottle of shampoo with me on my rides and as it disappears I refill it with soap from gas stations etc. I use that for everything including my laundry. However, if the laundromat happens to have soap for sale, I might buy a little box and use that.
And as for saddle sores ... I have ridden almost 110,000 kms and have had 1 saddle sore. It had absolutely nothing to do with the cleanliness (or lack thereof) of my shorts, but rather had everything to do with the fact that I was wearing loose shorts on a rainy day.
I saw one mention of cleaning in cooking pot. I finally discovered ziploc bags make great washing machines for small stuff. I have not tried cycling shorts but they should fit in a gallon size. I use dr bonners soap for my hiking shorts and shirts. put soap and water in ziploc, add clothes. play a game of pitch if with another cyclist or just toss them around in the air yourself a few minutes. rince well away from any water supply. I usually hang my clothes over my hammock support line so if raining they can still kinda dry. gets stuff almost as clean as the home washer.
Coy Boy
I take 3 pairs of shorts and jerseys. I could probably get by with only two but I don't like putting damp shorts on and sometimes it takes more than a day to get my washed stuff dry. It also allows me to use my extra jersey as a t-shirt on an off day, so I take fewer "off bike" clothes.
I wash my day's biking clothes when I get to my hotel/campsite and leave them over the back rack the next day until they dry.
Ray
+1
Re washing - liquid soap is usually easier to keep clean and dry than a bar of soap, but a bar lasts longer. I usually take a small Nalgene bottle of detergent (dish detergent seems to work fine for dishes and clothes) and a hotel shampoo (doubles as body wash). Make sure you have enough water to rinse thoroughly, or use a low-residue wash like Sports Wash which rinses out easily.
Jerseys dry really quickly but padded bike shorts take a while. I reckon take 3 shorts if you have space.
I've tried riding in nylon shorts/bathers (mesh insert, don't need separate underwear) but I don't like this for more than an hour or two on the bike. Nice to change into after wearing bike shorts all day, though.
Thermal tops and long-sleeve shirts are good multipurpose tops, you can have quite a flexible wardrobe with just a few well-chosen pieces.
SaddleUp
05-19-07, 11:39 AM
I bring two pair of shorts with me, and I'm never more than 10 days from a laundry facility. 5 days in one pair and 5 days in the next is usually my maximum.
Pack the pair you've just worn for 5 days straight at the top of your pannier to ward off potential thieves and people who might be curious what you've got in your panniers.
As for laundry soap, as I mentioned in another thread, I bring a small bottle of shampoo with me on my rides and as it disappears I refill it with soap from gas stations etc. I use that for everything including my laundry. However, if the laundromat happens to have soap for sale, I might buy a little box and use that.
And as for saddle sores ... I have ridden almost 110,000 kms and have had 1 saddle sore. It had absolutely nothing to do with the cleanliness (or lack thereof) of my shorts, but rather had everything to do with the fact that I was wearing loose shorts on a rainy day.
You must be kidding. 5 days in the same shorts, for a WOMAN? That is just plain gross. I've had shorts that after a single day of riding I had to decide whether to burn them or bury them. Even the dog turned up her nose at them, and she usually likes funky stuff.
I've also biked thousands of miles---and had horrible cysts that lasted for months.
I make my own shorts. I line whatever I want to wear with a bunting saddle, I actually like 2 layers. It's basically the same stuff they put in regular shorts. One doesn't wear underwear, which means that there isn't the rubbing back and forth along the seams that causes some of the washing trouble anyway. Normally at the end of the day, my liner looks fine, I just wash out the contact surface and it dries really fast. I carry two pair just in case one gets soaked in rain, or I need a major wash up. There really isn't that much of a clean-up job required.
"You must be kidding. 5 days in the same shorts, for a WOMAN? That is just plain gross. I've had shorts that after a single day of riding I had to decide whether to burn them or bury them. Even the dog turned up her nose at them, and she usually likes funky stuff.
I've also biked thousands of miles---and had horrible cysts that lasted for months."
You may just have a slightly different biology. I can wear the same T-shirt for 3-4 days in a row, never use pit juice, and when I put it in the wash it smells just fine, and it isn't just me saying it. The same with socks. I'm a big guy, you just wouldn't think it was possible.
After my plane crash, I wasn't allowed to bathe for 9 weeks until all the holes had completely healed. I could sponge myself but not take a proper bath. It was nice to take that bath, but I wasn't dirty in the interim.
If you go back to a time before showers and dry cleaning, people had weekly baths, not all that uncommon in the 60s when I was growing up. They had shirts with buttons on collars and cuffs so that several pairs could go with one body that was worn multiple days (also for ease of cleaning and longer lasting). Suits got brushed, not dry cleaned, which some still regard as a superior alternative. There was no leaning against bus stops or lounging around on concrete steps etc... We are in the one culture, and one time, when we can so easily be wasteful in order to be over-clean. It's to the point where some doctors speculate the high asthma rates are due to insufficient exposure to dirt in childhood.
There was a time when people did not realize the importance of cleanliness, or fresh air, etc... But the modern several showers a days, wear it for a few hours, lather yourself in antiseptic, culture is a major cause of environmental damage. Crap like Swifer, and hand gels are a net environmental negative.
At the end of the day you have to figure out what works for you. If Machka, who not only does long tours, but Stuff like multiday Rondos has worked something out, it will probably work for others too.
avatarworf
05-20-07, 12:48 AM
You must be kidding. 5 days in the same shorts, for a WOMAN? That is just plain gross. I've had shorts that after a single day of riding I had to decide whether to burn them or bury them. Even the dog turned up her nose at them, and she usually likes funky stuff.
I've also biked thousands of miles---and had horrible cysts that lasted for months.
Well, we've been going since September and we wear our shorts for 3-5 times before washing. I often wear underwear with them though and have not had any problem with saddle sore. Husband always wears underwear and he is also comfortable. Granted, we haven't been in any extremely hot conditions yet so maybe this would change with high-summer touring. When we can, we wash out our shorts like any other piece of clothing, with a bit of washing powder and hang to dry.
onbike 1939
05-20-07, 07:56 AM
To wear Lycra shorts for more than one day at a time is asking for trouble. Tight Lycra shorts are perfect for the growth of bacteria in that they provide a warm, moist atmosphere. Any small cut or abrasion is then at risk of infection and can mean the end of your tour.
I camp and tour for six weeks or more at a time and to hazard myself by not wearing clean shorts would be absolutely stupid. There are enough risks out there while cycling, so why introduce an unnecessary one.
mntbikedude
05-20-07, 09:56 PM
I bring two pairs of bike shorts. I will wear them two days each. Every fourth day we stop at a laundry. I'll change into swim trunks or rain pants and wash everything else. It works for us. I used to try and wash out the shorts by hand just because washing machines are hard on them. But I really like having really clean clothes that also smell really clean.
avatarworf
05-20-07, 10:40 PM
To wear Lycra shorts for more than one day at a time is asking for trouble. Tight Lycra shorts are perfect for the growth of bacteria in that they provide a warm, moist atmosphere. Any small cut or abrasion is then at risk of infection and can mean the end of your tour.
I camp and tour for six weeks or more at a time and to hazard myself by not wearing clean shorts would be absolutely stupid. There are enough risks out there while cycling, so why introduce an unnecessary one.
In theory it would be great to have a clean pair of shorts handed to me each day, but in practice how does it work? Do you carry a lot of pairs and wash infrequently or carry a couple pairs and wash every day? With wild camping, we don't have enough water to do a wash most of the time, and if it's raining then the shorts are not going to dry anyway. With two pairs of shorts each, we rarely go more than 2-3 days without washing them, although this can stretch to longer in remote areas and I think it would be a real pain to wash every single day.
Is the risk of infection/bacteria not related as well to how much you sweat? I have seen this discussion come up before and it strikes me that this is something that is very personal to each cyclist.
onbike 1939
05-21-07, 04:10 AM
In theory it would be great to have a clean pair of shorts handed to me each day, but in practice how does it work? Do you carry a lot of pairs and wash infrequently or carry a couple pairs and wash every day? With wild camping, we don't have enough water to do a wash most of the time, and if it's raining then the shorts are not going to dry anyway. With two pairs of shorts each, we rarely go more than 2-3 days without washing them, although this can stretch to longer in remote areas and I think it would be a real pain to wash every single day.
Is the risk of infection/bacteria not related as well to how much you sweat? I have seen this discussion come up before and it strikes me that this is something that is very personal to each cyclist.
Well, I'm not lucky enough to have clean shorts handed to me unfortunately. I carry two pairs of racing shorts and wash the pair I have been wearing on arrival at the camp-site. As most of my camping is in France during the summer, the shorts are usually dry in twenty minutes or so. I carry two very light poly/cotton tops also, and wash the one I've been wearing at the same time. No big deal, just part of my routine.
Wild camping does make this a bit more difficult I grant you, but then again you do not have to wash the whole short, only the insert. Spending six weeks on tour and cycling every day, I do want a shower, so it's camping sites for me and especially as I'm am now becoming old and decrepit.
The bacteria/infection problem has no relationship to sweating but to the heat and moisture trapped by the Lycra material. I have damaged kidneys and bladder, and having suffered just such infections I have to be very careful in this regard.
thebigmrT
05-22-07, 02:59 PM
Slightly off topic, what do you typically use to wash your clothes? Do most folks bring a small supply of laundry detergent? Liquid or powder?
I personally use Dr Bronner's Unscented for everything, hair, body, face, clothes, dishes, whatever.
But there's a lot more out there to choose from, just make sure whatever you choose is designed to be used in a camping environment, or at least biodegradable. Most of the time, we're camping out at night, which means any run off from us is going directly into the environment around us.
greenstork
05-22-07, 03:19 PM
I personally use Dr Bronner's Unscented for everything, hair, body, face, clothes, dishes, whatever.
But there's a lot more out there to choose from, just make sure whatever you choose is designed to be used in a camping environment, or at least biodegradable. Most of the time, we're camping out at night, which means any run off from us is going directly into the environment around us.
Thanks for clarifying. I use Dr. B's exclusively when in the woods because it is biodegradable. I'm heading off on a credit card tour and will probably bring along some liquid laundry detergent because it has the enzymes you need to really clean clothes that Dr. B's doesn't have -- and use it in a sink of course.
You must be kidding. 5 days in the same shorts, for a WOMAN? That is just plain gross. I've had shorts that after a single day of riding I had to decide whether to burn them or bury them. Even the dog turned up her nose at them, and she usually likes funky stuff.
I've also biked thousands of miles---and had horrible cysts that lasted for months.
No, I'm not kidding. It's not as bad as you might think. It's not like I'm discharging anything when I ride!! As I said, I've done well over 100,000 kms and have had only 1 saddle sore unrelated to the cleanliness of my shorts.
I think North Americans tend to be a bit .... ummmm ... fussy (?), finicky (?), or something about wearing the same clothes more than a day or two in a row.
Then again, maybe the ability to wear shorts several days in a row has something to do with things like .... saddle choice, temperature, shorts choice, body chemistry, personal health, etc.
onbike 1939
05-23-07, 05:48 AM
[QUOTE=Machka]No, I'm not kidding. It's not as bad as you might think. It's not like I'm discharging anything when I ride!! As I said, I've done well over 100,000 kms and have had only 1 saddle sore unrelated to the cleanliness of my shorts.
I think North Americans tend to be a bit .... ummmm ... fussy (?), finicky (?), or something about wearing the same clothes more than a day or two in a row.>
Are you dating at the moment?:eek:
[QUOTE=Machka]No, I'm not kidding. It's not as bad as you might think. It's not like I'm discharging anything when I ride!! As I said, I've done well over 100,000 kms and have had only 1 saddle sore unrelated to the cleanliness of my shorts.
I think North Americans tend to be a bit .... ummmm ... fussy (?), finicky (?), or something about wearing the same clothes more than a day or two in a row.>
Are you dating at the moment?:eek:
What does that have to do with anything?
If your question is whether or not anyone will come near me, I have done all my tours with cycling partners who have worn their shorts as long as I have (or longer!). It's fine!! And as for people in grocery stores etc ... well, we get to the front of the line and out the door really quick. Works very well. :)
But even when I'm at home, I don't wash my shorts after every ride. There's no point in that. I do wash them after long rides (centuries, brevets, etc.), but not after my "after work" type of rides. I just hang them where they can dry and air out a bit, and they are good to go again the next day.
onbike 1939
05-24-07, 04:31 AM
[QUOTE=Machka][QUOTE=onbike 1939]
What does that have to do with anything?
If your question is whether or not anyone will come near me, I have done all my tours with cycling partners who have worn their shorts as long as I have (or longer!). It's fine!! And as for people in grocery stores etc ... well, we get to the front of the line and out the door really quick. Works very well. :)
That indeed was my question.
While I can't salute your personal hygiene, I stand in awe of your stoic indifference to public reaction.;)
sweetnsourbkr
05-24-07, 08:04 AM
hmmm :rolleyes:
velo2000
05-24-07, 02:04 PM
You folks crack me up. I sure hope I get enough internet access on my tour so I can keep up with amusing threads like this one. :D
While I can't salute your personal hygiene, I stand in awe of your stoic indifference to public reaction.;)
I'm a randonneur ... we're known for wearing the same pair of shorts (and jersey, and everything else) for 24+ hours straight! And I really don't care what "the public" thinks of me. :)
"What do you do with your shorts? "
Padded side to the back during the day for cycling and....... in the front at night in the bars. :D :D
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