Road Cycling - Lemond '02 Maillot Jaune--gotta decide tonight

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triman51
06-16-03, 08:24 PM
Ladies and gents: I'm planning on buying a new road bike tomorrow and would appreciate your input. I boiled it down to a '02 MJ ($1,999) or a Co-Motion Espresso Co-Pilot ($1,799) with S&S conectors. More on that later).

MJ pro's: Great frame, Dura Ace double (absolutely precise, smooth and quiet--no question which gear I'm in), Bont X-lite race wheels, price ($1,999, brand new, mint, less a few test rides-- mostly by me), decent paint, 853 steel. I feel at one with this bike when I'm riding it. It is so quiet it is eery! I've never ridden a quieter bike. The precision of the Dura Ace is unbelievable from anything I've ever experienced before.

MJ negatives: The only negative is that it is a double chanset. Paint job is nice but nowhere near the quality of the Co-Motion. While I'm saving some weight (double vs. triple), I live in some winery-type hills and am 51 (good, but older knees!). If the slope isn't too bad the double will be great, but a triple would sure come in handy where I live. I love to run hills in my training for tri's but riding a double up a steep hill is hard on the knees sometimes for us mere mortals. I don't plan to race (except to do well in age group tri's), but plan club riding.

Co-motion pro's: Great ride, good acceleration, best paint job I've ever seen on a bike except a 20th anniversary Torelli, Ultegra triple, S&S connectors. (Note: Now to you purists, you might gag with the connectors, and so did I when I first saw it, but the paint and lug work is excellent and the travel possibilities with the connectors are very inviting. Side note: I'm an airline pilot and this makes a lot of sense if I want to pack the bike on a trip. Question is: would I want to drag it along with security being what it is today!!!?). Visited factory (an hour away) and they are true craftsmen. If I have a problem or need new paint job I can deliver it to them in person! Good handling bike. Beautiful to look at. King headset. Triple Ultegra chainset.

Co-motion neg's: 725 steel, Ultegra not as crisp, smooth, precise or quiet as Dura Ace. Threaded headset. Wire spoke wheels (Mavic Open Pro')

They are both good bikes with different strenghts. I gotta say that Dura Ace made the MJ a pleasure to ride, but the Co-motion was more fun up the hills and had good acceleration. Dura Ace brakes seemed stronger and quieter on the MJ.

I want the bike for fitness, triathlons, club rides. What do you say? I'm leaning on the MJ, but feel like I'm betraying the Co-Motion if I don't buy her! Anyway will be riding tommorrow with one of the two. Opinions welcome!


talkdj
06-16-03, 10:35 PM
Airline Pilot??? What airline and what do you fly??? Or, what do you fly??? I envy your job! But enough of that...go with the bike that feels great and fits great to you!

My .02 cents....

-wynn

princebaal
06-16-03, 11:11 PM
eh, get em both


ZackJones
06-17-03, 05:38 AM
Originally posted by triman51

I feel at one with this bike when I'm riding it.


That's all I'd need to know to make the decision.



MJ negatives: The only negative is that it is a double chanset.


Have the shop replace it with a triple. I don't know what it would cost to have it done but you have a couple of options if they won't just swap the parts (for a fee, of course). You could have the shop do the swap and then sell the new DA stuff here or on Ebay.



Paint job is nice but nowhere near the quality of the Co-Motion.


This seems to be a fairly common complaint about Lemonds.

Of course the easy thing to do is what princebaal suggested - just buy 'em both :)

Good luck and let us know which one you bring home.

Zack

captsven
06-17-03, 07:32 AM
Would someone really buy a bike that looked better than a bike that performed better?

Is that like bike shallowness?

descartes
06-17-03, 07:54 AM
Is the problem the quality of the paint on the lemond frames or the aesthetics of the paint job?

shokhead
06-17-03, 07:58 AM
Yep,have the shop make the LeMond a triple and get it.

Bean Counter
06-17-03, 08:37 AM
On a $ 2000 bike, if the LBS won't swap for a triple, you're buying from the wrong place. You feel as one with the Lemond. That says it all.

ZackJones
06-17-03, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by descartes
Is the problem the quality of the paint on the lemond frames or the aesthetics of the paint job?

I have heard the term "soft" used to refer to the paint jobs on Lemond frames. They seem to chip a little easier than other paint jobs.

Zack