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How does Critical Mass help bike Advocacy and Safety?
How does Critical Mass help bike Advocacy and Safety?
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lima_bean
How do Chicago style hot dogs help bike Advocacy and Safety?
zeytoun
How does criticizing Critical Mass help Advocacy and Safety?
Shiznaz
How does starting a new thread thats just going to rehash the thread you last posted in going to help Advocacy and Safety?
zeytoun
How does responding to a question by posting a thread full of questions help Advocacy and Safety?
dobber
How does Viagra work?
slowandsteady
Speaking of Chicago style hot dogs...what is up with that? I mean tomatos on a hot dog...odd. It is like they treat the hot dog as a legitimate meat.
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zeytoun
Speaking of Chicago style hot dogs...what is up with that? I mean tomatos on a hot dog...odd. It is like they treat the hot dog as a legitimate meat.
That has always been the big difference between NY and Chicago foods.
In NYC (and the tri-state area, by proxy) you have the Grey's Papaya/Coney Island style thin-dog, and the thin crust pizza. It's about getting the basic flavors right, and making sure they can fit in a normal sized mouth.
In Chicago, it's all about more. Bigger hot dog, more toppings. Deep dish pizza. It always seemed insecure to me.
That has always been the big difference between NY and Chicago foods.
In NYC (and the tri-state area, by proxy) you have the Grey's Papaya/Coney Island style thin-dog, and the thin crust pizza. It's about getting the basic flavors right, and making sure they can fit in a normal sized mouth.
In Chicago, it's all about more. Bigger hot dog, more toppings. Deep dish pizza. It always seemed insecure to me.
sgtsmile
So how does turning CM into the next VC on the ass forum help people be safe on a bike?
zeytoun
How does making interesting comparisons between the scapegoat-i-ness of CM and VC help advocacy and safety?
supertj
How does criticizing Critical Mass help Advocacy and Safety?
How does not criticizing Critical Mass help Advocacy and Safety? People should speak up when they see a group of idiots together
How does not criticizing Critical Mass help Advocacy and Safety? People should speak up when they see a group of idiots together
sgtsmile
It doesnt, but CM is making the ass forum as assinine as VC did a while back.
zeytoun
People should speak up when they see a group of idiots together
They do. Otherwise cocktail parties would be silent.
They do. Otherwise cocktail parties would be silent.
comradehoser
How does not criticizing Critical Mass help Advocacy and Safety? People should speak up when they see a group of idiots together
you are a group of one.
you are a group of one.
scottmorrison99
How do Chicago style hot dogs help bike Advocacy and Safety?
No,no,no. It's Chicago style pizza that helps Advocacy and Safety.:rolleyes:
No,no,no. It's Chicago style pizza that helps Advocacy and Safety.:rolleyes:
zeytoun
People should speak up when they see a group of idiots together
Supertj, attached are portions of the forum guidelines. Try to follow them.
We expect our member to show respect for others. Respecting their person, their views, their time and their opinions, and their belief systems ... even if you disagree with them.
For instance, the use of terms such as "idiot, moron, stupid" and other derogatory terms constitutes harassment. The idea is to make this a pleasant environment to discuss cycling, not a schoolyard, or name-calling and rock-throwing festival. Repeated critical and sharply negative posts toward a forum member can also constitute harassment.
Supertj, attached are portions of the forum guidelines. Try to follow them.
We expect our member to show respect for others. Respecting their person, their views, their time and their opinions, and their belief systems ... even if you disagree with them.
For instance, the use of terms such as "idiot, moron, stupid" and other derogatory terms constitutes harassment. The idea is to make this a pleasant environment to discuss cycling, not a schoolyard, or name-calling and rock-throwing festival. Repeated critical and sharply negative posts toward a forum member can also constitute harassment.
EnigManiac
How does not criticizing Critical Mass help Advocacy and Safety? People should speak up when they see a group of idiots together
You're right.
Today, I saw this long line of people in cars all inching along and making illegal lane changes, occasionally driving recklessly and aggressively and honking their horns to express their frustration.
I should speak up more often. That felt good.
:)
You're right.
Today, I saw this long line of people in cars all inching along and making illegal lane changes, occasionally driving recklessly and aggressively and honking their horns to express their frustration.
I should speak up more often. That felt good.
:)
Burrito Eater
Speaking of Chicago style hot dogs...what is up with that? I mean tomatos on a hot dog...odd. It is like they treat the hot dog as a legitimate meat.
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From helpful Wikipedia:
The origin of the Chicago-style dog is a matter of debate, but they were served at 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago [4].
Chicago-style hot dogs are boiled or steamed to a temperature above 170 degrees Fahrenheit (~77 degrees Celsius) before adding the toppings [3]. They can also be grilled, though these are referred to as "chardogs" in Chicagoland. The natural casing of the hot dogs provide a distinctive "snap" when bitten [2] The most common dog weighs 1/8 lb. and is made with Vienna Beef, although some vendors in Chicago use other brands.
Chicago-style hot dogs with all the toppings are sometimes called "dragged through the garden" because of the unique combination of condiments. However, "dragged through the garden" appears to refer to a variant which includes lettuce in the condiments[citation needed]. Further, the addition of hot peppers to the condiments is evidently a relatively recent result of Mexican immigrants peddling hot dogs from carts beginning in the 1960s (?) rather than an original aspect of the Chicago-style hot dog[citation needed]. Banana peppers are sometimes offered as an alternative to sport peppers, even at such an iconic Chicago location as Wrigley Field[citation needed]. At Hot Doug's, a unique "sausage emporium" in Chicago, the condiments substitute grilled onions for raw onions.
Some Chicago restaurants choose to associate publicity solely with the hot dog, even though they serve many other items, including the Maxwell Street Polish, gyros, Italian beef, and pork chop sandwiches. The Chicago-style hot dog is ubiquitous, so publicity gimmicks are often needed to attract customers to a restaurant. One of these gimmicks is Superdawg's two giant hot dogs (Maurie and Flaurie) on the roof of the building.
In Chicagoland, there are more Hot Dog joints than McDonalds, Wendys, and Burger Kings combined [4]
It really looks like someone should do more research on this issue.
http://www.luckyschicagostylegrill.com/images/vdog.gif
From helpful Wikipedia:
The origin of the Chicago-style dog is a matter of debate, but they were served at 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago [4].
Chicago-style hot dogs are boiled or steamed to a temperature above 170 degrees Fahrenheit (~77 degrees Celsius) before adding the toppings [3]. They can also be grilled, though these are referred to as "chardogs" in Chicagoland. The natural casing of the hot dogs provide a distinctive "snap" when bitten [2] The most common dog weighs 1/8 lb. and is made with Vienna Beef, although some vendors in Chicago use other brands.
Chicago-style hot dogs with all the toppings are sometimes called "dragged through the garden" because of the unique combination of condiments. However, "dragged through the garden" appears to refer to a variant which includes lettuce in the condiments[citation needed]. Further, the addition of hot peppers to the condiments is evidently a relatively recent result of Mexican immigrants peddling hot dogs from carts beginning in the 1960s (?) rather than an original aspect of the Chicago-style hot dog[citation needed]. Banana peppers are sometimes offered as an alternative to sport peppers, even at such an iconic Chicago location as Wrigley Field[citation needed]. At Hot Doug's, a unique "sausage emporium" in Chicago, the condiments substitute grilled onions for raw onions.
Some Chicago restaurants choose to associate publicity solely with the hot dog, even though they serve many other items, including the Maxwell Street Polish, gyros, Italian beef, and pork chop sandwiches. The Chicago-style hot dog is ubiquitous, so publicity gimmicks are often needed to attract customers to a restaurant. One of these gimmicks is Superdawg's two giant hot dogs (Maurie and Flaurie) on the roof of the building.
In Chicagoland, there are more Hot Dog joints than McDonalds, Wendys, and Burger Kings combined [4]
It really looks like someone should do more research on this issue.
randya
That has always been the big difference between NY and Chicago foods.
In NYC (and the tri-state area, by proxy) you have the Grey's Papaya/Coney Island style thin-dog, and the thin crust pizza. It's about getting the basic flavors right, and making sure they can fit in a normal sized mouth.
In Chicago, it's all about more. Bigger hot dog, more toppings. Deep dish pizza. It always seemed insecure to me.
Chicago does it with softball, too; I hear the balls they use are HUGE.
Are people from chicago in gneneral fatter than people from NY, too?
In NYC (and the tri-state area, by proxy) you have the Grey's Papaya/Coney Island style thin-dog, and the thin crust pizza. It's about getting the basic flavors right, and making sure they can fit in a normal sized mouth.
In Chicago, it's all about more. Bigger hot dog, more toppings. Deep dish pizza. It always seemed insecure to me.
Chicago does it with softball, too; I hear the balls they use are HUGE.
Are people from chicago in gneneral fatter than people from NY, too?
zeytoun
Are people from chicago in gneneral fatter than people from NY, too?
Yup
Although NY has gained on Chi-town in recent years.
http://www.obesity.org/subs/fastfacts/cities.shtml
Yup
Although NY has gained on Chi-town in recent years.
http://www.obesity.org/subs/fastfacts/cities.shtml
randya
maybe critical mass is really about resisting the critical mass of obesity
dobber
Chicago does it with softball, too; I hear the balls they use are HUGE.
Are people from chicago in gneneral fatter than people from NY, too?
Softball in Chicago is still traditionally played with a ball measuring 16" round.
Does anybody remember the hamburger chain called "Cock Robin"?
Are people from chicago in gneneral fatter than people from NY, too?
Softball in Chicago is still traditionally played with a ball measuring 16" round.
Does anybody remember the hamburger chain called "Cock Robin"?
zeytoun
Softball in Chicago is still traditionally played with a ball measuring 16" round.
That's not softball, that's a pillow-fight!!!
Does anybody remember the hamburger chain called "Cock Robin"?
Never been myself, but I got a tip to avoid the cream of mushroom soup.
That's not softball, that's a pillow-fight!!!
Does anybody remember the hamburger chain called "Cock Robin"?
Never been myself, but I got a tip to avoid the cream of mushroom soup.
randya
white castle
deputyjones
That has always been the big difference between NY and Chicago foods.
In NYC (and the tri-state area, by proxy) you have the Grey's Papaya/Coney Island style thin-dog, and the thin crust pizza. It's about getting the basic flavors right, and making sure they can fit in a normal sized mouth.
In Chicago, it's all about more. Bigger hot dog, more toppings. Deep dish pizza. It always seemed insecure to me.
I will have you know sir, that I take great offense at your generalization of NYC taste as "less". You obviously have an egregious issue with regards to your comprehension of the written word and are suffering from the long standing, yet seldom diagnosed condition of "Taste Inferiority Syndrome". Until you have received the necessary education in taste by reading the following tombs by leading authors in the field your opinion is quite invalid. Hrmmph.
The Chowhound's Guide to the New York Tristate Area (http://www.amazon.com/Chowhounds-Guide-York-Tristate-Area/dp/0143034405/ref=sr_1_15/002-6112785-0081669?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179358713&sr=1-15)
Queens: What to Do, Where to Go (and How Not to Get Lost) in New York's Undiscovered Borough (http://www.amazon.com/Queens-Where-Yorks-Undiscovered-Borough/dp/0312358180/ref=sr_1_11/002-6112785-0081669?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179358783&sr=1-11)
Wolfgang Puck Pizza, Pasta, and More! (http://www.amazon.com/Wolfgang-Puck-Pizza-Pasta-More/dp/0517223724/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/002-6112785-0081669?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179358851&sr=1-3)
Mein Kampf (http://www.amazon.com/Mein-Kampf-Adolf-Hitler/dp/0395083621/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-6112785-0081669?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179358895&sr=1-1)
In NYC (and the tri-state area, by proxy) you have the Grey's Papaya/Coney Island style thin-dog, and the thin crust pizza. It's about getting the basic flavors right, and making sure they can fit in a normal sized mouth.
In Chicago, it's all about more. Bigger hot dog, more toppings. Deep dish pizza. It always seemed insecure to me.
I will have you know sir, that I take great offense at your generalization of NYC taste as "less". You obviously have an egregious issue with regards to your comprehension of the written word and are suffering from the long standing, yet seldom diagnosed condition of "Taste Inferiority Syndrome". Until you have received the necessary education in taste by reading the following tombs by leading authors in the field your opinion is quite invalid. Hrmmph.
The Chowhound's Guide to the New York Tristate Area (http://www.amazon.com/Chowhounds-Guide-York-Tristate-Area/dp/0143034405/ref=sr_1_15/002-6112785-0081669?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179358713&sr=1-15)
Queens: What to Do, Where to Go (and How Not to Get Lost) in New York's Undiscovered Borough (http://www.amazon.com/Queens-Where-Yorks-Undiscovered-Borough/dp/0312358180/ref=sr_1_11/002-6112785-0081669?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179358783&sr=1-11)
Wolfgang Puck Pizza, Pasta, and More! (http://www.amazon.com/Wolfgang-Puck-Pizza-Pasta-More/dp/0517223724/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/002-6112785-0081669?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179358851&sr=1-3)
Mein Kampf (http://www.amazon.com/Mein-Kampf-Adolf-Hitler/dp/0395083621/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-6112785-0081669?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179358895&sr=1-1)
Niles H.
Here is a question for the group that I am troubled with on a regular basis.
How does Critical Mass help bike Advocacy and Safety?
Most of the CM people I have met are not terribly concerned about these things.
How does Critical Mass help bike Advocacy and Safety?
Most of the CM people I have met are not terribly concerned about these things.
zeytoun
I said Chicago is "more". Only a wordist would say that it follows that NY is "less".
By being "more", Chicago is by definition "greater" than NY.
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Ok, I give, I give. I miss NYC food, and never liked Chicago food!
By being "more", Chicago is by definition "greater" than NY.
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–adjective, compar. of much or many with most as superl. 1.in greater quantity, amount, measure, degree, or number: I need more money.
Ok, I give, I give. I miss NYC food, and never liked Chicago food!
zeytoun
Most of the CM people I have met are not terribly concerned about these things.
Bingo.
Bingo.
Burrito Eater
Softball in Chicago is still traditionally played with a ball measuring 16" round.
Are those those "clincher" softballs? I always thought it would be boring to play with those. :)
Are those those "clincher" softballs? I always thought it would be boring to play with those. :)
deputyjones
I said Chicago is "more". Only a wordist would say that it follows that NY is "less".
By being "more", Chicago is by definition "greater" than NY.
Ok, I give, I give. I miss NYC food, and never liked Chicago food!
I know, I haven't had a real cannoli in years, and don't even get me started about baklava :o
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By being "more", Chicago is by definition "greater" than NY.
Ok, I give, I give. I miss NYC food, and never liked Chicago food!
I know, I haven't had a real cannoli in years, and don't even get me started about baklava :o
http://www.mikespastry.com/Merchant2/graphics/CANNOLIYELLOW12CT_300.jpg
john bono
In Chicago, it's all about more. Bigger hot dog, more toppings. Deep dish pizza. It always seemed insecure to me.
Well, you know, that's why Chicagoans call their city "The city of Broad Shoulders." Because, you know, it's not like they compensating for any shortcomings by saying that. Nope, they're not compensating at all.
Well, you know, that's why Chicagoans call their city "The city of Broad Shoulders." Because, you know, it's not like they compensating for any shortcomings by saying that. Nope, they're not compensating at all.
Shiznaz
In my somewhat limited experience of New York style hotdogs, I am severely unimpressed. I did not eat a hotdog in new york that could even come close to the hotdogs you get here in Toronto... anemic little boiled weiner they throw in a pathetic bun and then apply any of 3 condiments for you. In toronto they grill em up after a little boiling, and then they toast the buns a bit and have a smorgasbord of condiments that you can load as much as you want of. I honestly assumed NYC would have amazing hotdogs before I went there and was shocked. Delis seem to be the way to go in the big apple.
zeytoun
did not eat a hotdog in new york that could even come close to the hotdogs you get here in Toronto...
Where did you go? Did you got to street vendors?
At for example Gray's Papaya, you get the recession special, which, last time I was there (2003) it was like $2 something (it's probably more now) for 2 dogs and a drinK (coconut champagne (non-alc) was the one to get).
Even so, the hot dog is not something you spaz over, it's understated and simple, but good quality and always all-beef. And I can understand not calling home over it. Part of the big deal is the vibe/price at Gray's, and part might be the history behind it, as being the "origin" of the hot dog.
And the so called Coney Island Dog (with chili and cheese I think, actually came from DJs own Michigan area.
Delis seem to be the way to go in the big apple.
I won't disagree with you on this.... Katz's deli being my fave....
Where did you go? Did you got to street vendors?
At for example Gray's Papaya, you get the recession special, which, last time I was there (2003) it was like $2 something (it's probably more now) for 2 dogs and a drinK (coconut champagne (non-alc) was the one to get).
Even so, the hot dog is not something you spaz over, it's understated and simple, but good quality and always all-beef. And I can understand not calling home over it. Part of the big deal is the vibe/price at Gray's, and part might be the history behind it, as being the "origin" of the hot dog.
And the so called Coney Island Dog (with chili and cheese I think, actually came from DJs own Michigan area.
Delis seem to be the way to go in the big apple.
I won't disagree with you on this.... Katz's deli being my fave....
Laika
Not to hate on the workingman's meal of a NYC "dirty water dog" or the gray's papaya/orange julius experience but the gold standard for dogs in NYC is Nathan's. And only the Nathan's in Coney counts, BTW.
Not for nothing, I love the occasional chicago dog, and I am surprised that no one has offerd a shout out for pink's. But Nathan's is my personal fave, and you can't go wrong w/their fries, since the grease in the fryers hasn't been changed since the Great Depression.
Not for nothing, I love the occasional chicago dog, and I am surprised that no one has offerd a shout out for pink's. But Nathan's is my personal fave, and you can't go wrong w/their fries, since the grease in the fryers hasn't been changed since the Great Depression.
slowandsteady
Nathan's hot dogs are the best.
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Shiznaz
Where did you go? Did you got to street vendors?
Yes, only street vendors. The one outside the guggenheim was particularly nasty. I was pretty much ready to walk away when I saw the water the hot dog got pulled out of. Are restaurant hot dogs popular? Around here they are a pretty much a street vendor/basball game only food; you're not as likely to find them at a brick and mortar establishment.
Yes, only street vendors. The one outside the guggenheim was particularly nasty. I was pretty much ready to walk away when I saw the water the hot dog got pulled out of. Are restaurant hot dogs popular? Around here they are a pretty much a street vendor/basball game only food; you're not as likely to find them at a brick and mortar establishment.
Bklyn
As regards to Critical Mass, I'd have to say that Ted's Red Hots in Buffalo are the best hot dogs in the world.
http://www.tedsonline.com/src/tedsstore.jpg
http://www.tedsonline.com/src/tedsstore.jpg
deputyjones
As regards to Critical Mass, I'd have to say that Ted's Red Hots in Buffalo are the best hot dogs in the world.
Well that settles it. We now need a poll.
Well that settles it. We now need a poll.
Laika
As regards to Critical Mass, I'd have to say that Ted's Red Hots in Buffalo are the best hot dogs in the world.
http://www.tedsonline.com/src/tedsstore.jpg
I've heard wonderful things about ted's, but I'm not sure if I'll ever get to Buffalo.
http://www.tedsonline.com/src/tedsstore.jpg
I've heard wonderful things about ted's, but I'm not sure if I'll ever get to Buffalo.
Bklyn
I've heard wonderful things about ted's, but I'm not sure if I'll ever get to Buffalo.
That's the problem exactly.
That's the problem exactly.
Laika
That would have to be one pretty ****ing good hotdog, to make a trip for.
I guess if it was combined with a trip to the Anchor Bar for wings it might start to be worth it.
And with the Sabres resurgent, throwing in a hockey game makes it start to sound like an attractive weekend.
I guess if it was combined with a trip to the Anchor Bar for wings it might start to be worth it.
And with the Sabres resurgent, throwing in a hockey game makes it start to sound like an attractive weekend.
Shiznaz
That would have to be one pretty ****ing good hotdog, to make a trip for.
I guess if it was combined with a trip to the Anchor Bar for wings it might start to be worth it.
And with the Sabres resurgent, throwing in a hockey game makes it start to sound like an attractive weekend.
If you do it, let us Toronto folks know. Buffalo is is only about 140 km away. We could create a critical dog.
I guess if it was combined with a trip to the Anchor Bar for wings it might start to be worth it.
And with the Sabres resurgent, throwing in a hockey game makes it start to sound like an attractive weekend.
If you do it, let us Toronto folks know. Buffalo is is only about 140 km away. We could create a critical dog.
Speedo
Nathan's hot dogs are the best.
Only if you've never been to Walter's (http://www.waltershotdogs.com/index_flash.html) in Mamaroneck (The Friendly Village), NY.
It's worth the trip.
Speedo
Only if you've never been to Walter's (http://www.waltershotdogs.com/index_flash.html) in Mamaroneck (The Friendly Village), NY.
It's worth the trip.
Speedo
Speedo
As regards to Critical Mass, I'd have to say that Ted's Red Hots in Buffalo are the best hot dogs in the world.
Stick to your chicken wings. Walter's Hot Dogs in Mamaroneck, (The Friendly Village) NY
Speedo
Stick to your chicken wings. Walter's Hot Dogs in Mamaroneck, (The Friendly Village) NY
Speedo
bent-not-broken
If critical mass organized a 16" softball game, effectively blocking access to all of the hotdog stands in Chicago ... would anyone care?
rando
As regards to Critical Mass, I'd have to say that Ted's Red Hots in Buffalo are the best hot dogs in the world.
http://www.tedsonline.com/src/tedsstore.jpg
there is a branch of Ted's, run by people from Buffalo, here in Tempe, near my house! good stuff.
http://www.tedsonline.com/src/tedsstore.jpg
there is a branch of Ted's, run by people from Buffalo, here in Tempe, near my house! good stuff.
baj32161
Stick to your chicken wings. Walter's Hot Dogs in Mamaroneck, (The Friendly Village) NY
Speedo
Wooo hooooo!! another Mamaroneckian!!!!
Speedo
Wooo hooooo!! another Mamaroneckian!!!!
randya
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