Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Frame painting with bed liner?

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SD Fixed
05-17-07, 08:29 PM
Has anyone ever done this? Pictures?
what reason is there to do this? it would probably be heavy and unsightly
veggiemafia
05-17-07, 08:45 PM
There was a big thread on it awhile back.
Ch-check the s-search.
SSSasky
05-17-07, 08:47 PM
man, the search function does not work for me. ever. at all. always zero results. is it a firefox thing?
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=198892
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=238995
Seggybop
05-17-07, 10:57 PM
I was contemplating it, but ended up not bothering with it when it became apparent that for whatever reason, the exposed steel on my frame refuses to rust.
chevy42083
05-18-07, 12:04 AM
I had thought of using the plasti-dip, or rubberized coatings.... you know, like the handles on pliers. nothing I seriously want to do... just sounded funny. :D
newnoise
05-18-07, 12:26 AM
I had thought of using the plasti-dip, or rubberized coatings.... you know, like the handles on pliers. nothing I seriously want to do... just sounded funny. :D
I was seriously considering doing this for a set of handlebars, but never got around to it. now i'm just over it, i think.
doomkin
05-18-07, 12:47 AM
you guys know if anyone has tried to patina the raw metal of their frames?
i was doing some cold patinas on some alumnium castings i had done for class and thought it would be pretty cool to try but seeing as i have no experience, and more imporantly, no bike to try it on it would be a mostly futile excercise.
WorldWide
05-18-07, 02:13 AM
I'm going to attempt to use Glaze Coat (http://www.glazecoat.com/GlazeCoat.htm) with glitter (how girlie.) on my currently rusting frame. unfortunately this means I will be a bus-rider/hermit for a couple days.
(btw: first post. ahoy y'all)
man, the search function does not work for me. ever. at all. always zero results. is it a firefox thing?
It's much easier to perform a targeted search of the site using the advanced search options in Google
http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=truck+bed+liner+site:bikeforums.net&hl=en&lr=&safe=active&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=7g1&as_qdr=all
LóFarkas
05-18-07, 07:00 AM
Ya don't even need fancy schmancy advanced search. Just add site:bikeforums.net to your search terms. If you are clever enough to have google toolbar, just click on the G and select current site. (only trouble is, you can't restrict the search to SSFG)
p3ntuprage
05-18-07, 08:52 AM
i've seen pictures of truck bed liner falling off in huge sheets under its own weight, although you can't discount bad surface prep.
for a similar effect [minus the falling off] you could try car under-body sealer.
you should be able to get it and the special spraygun attachment ordered in from any main dealer.
[not sure why you'd want to though. as has already been said: it's ugly and heavy]
fsnl
sparky
chevy42083
05-18-07, 09:09 AM
Oh yeah, another finish which I am still contemplating is something called "hammered" spray paint. It has a Hammered texture, and comes in various blacks, grays, silvers, and I THINK maybe a bronze-ish color. It's supposed to be a pretty tough paint. Alot of the guys building air-bag setups for their mini-trucks use this stuff on the fabbed suspension parts.
It's a spray can you can buy from Home Depot, Lowes, etc.
EDIT: WOW, either they've expanded, or my local places don't carry the full line.
http://www.rustoleum.com/product.asp?frm_product_id=21&SBL=1
BTW, I've used it on truck inner fenders, and the distance and thickness you lay it down DOES change the size of the "scales" in the finish. I would recommend getting the tight places on the bike first. Then overcoating it all so the final product will all look similar.
SD Fixed
05-18-07, 09:49 AM
[not sure why you'd want to though. as has already been said: it's ugly and heavy]
fsnl
sparky
This is for a SS MTB, not a street fixie. I agree the wieght would be too much for a street fixie.. but for a MTB, I'm not too concerned. Mainly for chuckable durability issues.
SD Fixed
05-18-07, 09:50 AM
Oh yeah, another finish which I am still contemplating is something called "hammered" spray paint. It has a Hammered texture, and comes in various blacks, grays, silvers, and I THINK maybe a bronze-ish color. It's supposed to be a pretty tough paint. Alot of the guys building air-bag setups for their mini-trucks use this stuff on the fabbed suspension parts.
It's a spray can you can buy from Home Depot, Lowes, etc.
EDIT: WOW, either they've expanded, or my local places don't carry the full line.
http://www.rustoleum.com/product.asp?frm_product_id=21&SBL=1
BTW, I've used it on truck inner fenders, and the distance and thickness you lay it down DOES change the size of the "scales" in the finish. I would recommend getting the tight places on the bike first. Then overcoating it all so the final product will all look similar.
Don't buy rustoleum hammered finish: only but "hammerite". 100% difference in quality and durability. I used both A LOT in other applications. Hammerite is the best to get, period. "Hammered finished" just didn't hold up: peeled and flaked. I thought it was my application, so I did a side by side on a steel bar with same prep. Hammerite faired far better.
SD Fixed
05-18-07, 10:00 AM
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=198892
Hmmm... A thread that ended over a year ago.. Hey, I commented on that one too. Hmmm. Nothing happened in the year since?
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=238995[/QUOTE]
Read that, ended 4 months ago, looking at the new members we've had since then... You think perhaps, just perhaps that there's something new under the sun?
Trons: I did the search. The results were old, not completely informative, so I asked... Can we move on now?
There was a big thread on it awhile back.
Ch-check the s-search.
I have mixed emotions about "use the search" folks.
They strike me as the kind that watch porn and say "I would have ***** completely better".. but are home alone on a friday night with some lube with an odd name....
Or the guy who watches football screaming at the incompetince of a football player.... yet couldn't play flag football with 1st graders.
Part of the premise of check the search is that the people who respond to a thread today may not say exactly the same things as the people who responded to the same topic at the other times it has come up. That, and to a lot of people it's helpful to realize you don't have to sit around waiting for answers to your question when there may be tens or 100s already.
chevy42083
05-18-07, 10:09 AM
Hammerite is a different brand, or different finish?
Where to buy?
and thanx for the heads-up ;)
BostonFixed
05-18-07, 10:10 AM
If you want a durable finish, just go powdercoat. Yes, its more expensive than spray on bedliner or whatever, but likely way more durable and won't peel off and have a weird texture. You also get your pick of about 100 colors..but a rubberized frame coating would be cool and unique. If you do end up going the bedliner route, I'd love to see pics.
^ my powdercoat rules. It was an expensive two stager, with transparent blue over chrome. It's durable as hell and it looks Pimp!
SD Fixed
05-18-07, 10:14 AM
Hammerite is a different brand, or different finish?
Where to buy?
and thanx for the heads-up ;)
It's a different brand. It used to be at Home Depot, but last time I checked (about a month ago) it wasn't there. Lowes might have it.
The finish looks very similar, and the colors nearly match ~ but the durability isn't the same.
Just on looks, they are both equal. You can buy Hammerite in a non spray pint size as well.
Ken Cox
05-20-07, 01:15 AM
you guys know if anyone has tried to patina the raw metal of their frames?
The typical steel used in many fixed gear bikes, 4130, corresponds to the steel used in guns.
Makers of very expensive guns in the late 1800's and early 1900's would create a corrosion-resistant patina they called "browning."
The process involved keeping disassembled gun parts in a cool, humid room, and wiping them down daily with a damp, slighty-oiled rag.
When treated this way, conscientiously and consistently, steel will turn golden, brown, or grey; and, will resist further corrosion, in the absence of salt.
Nickel and aluminum form a protective oxide layer in the presence of oxygen, and will turn a dull silver color.
I like the look of nickel.
One of the instructors at the United Bicycle Institute (Ashland, Oregon) had his or her lugged-steel fixed-gear frame plated with pure nickel and it looks beautiful; much nicer and more under-stated than chrome (not as hard as chrome, though, and more subject to wear and tear).
SD Fixed
05-21-07, 07:15 AM
^ my powdercoat rules. It was an expensive two stager, with transparent blue over chrome. It's durable as hell and it looks Pimp!
Picture link?
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