Training & Nutrition - I don't like Jared

Does anybody hate seeing the Subway commercial guy, Jared? First of all I don't even know if he is that fit because he never has his clothes off and second just because he lost weight does not mean he is physically fit enough to be good at sports, cycling, running, etc.

And lastly, I don't like the way he talks. I dont know if it is his mouth movement or whatever but I just can't keep thinking about it whenever I see him :)

He's not fit, he's got moobs. But I don't hate someone I've never met.

They never say he's fit. Which is probably better than making some dubious claim that eating Subway will turn you into Lance. They stay on thier topic; eat Subway (sensibly) and lose weight. They might throw in a disclaimer somewhere.

At the beginning they never had him speak, I think do in part to his voice.

Why would this bother you? They never claim he is an athlete or even fit. He just lost a substantial amount of weight eating certain Subway sandwiches...a fast food. Frankly I think it is wonderful that there is a fast food restaurant that provides as many healthy options as Subway does. They are pretty much alone in that.

Frankly I think it is wonderful that there is a fast food restaurant that provides as many healthy options as Subway does.
I agree completely.

...First of all I don't even know if he is that fit because he never has his clothes off...

What? You haven't seen his swimsuit calendar?

Dairy Queen used to have a billboard in calgary with a picture of a Sundae and the words said, "Here Jared, Jared, Jared.".

They interviewed a girl in Super Size Me and said she'd like to do what Jared did, but can't afford 3 sandwiches a day. No one, including Jared, offered her advice to make her own at home for a fraction of the price and an increase in quality.

Why would this bother you? They never claim he is an athlete or even fit. He just lost a substantial amount of weight eating certain Subway sandwiches...a fast food. Frankly I think it is wonderful that there is a fast food restaurant that provides as many healthy options as Subway does. They are pretty much alone in that.
What about Taco Bell?

^that's a joke right?

^that's a joke right?

Not really.

If you get the stuff made "Baja style" and without cheese, it's actually not that bad for you. Not as nutritious as a salad, wrap or sandwich from Subway perhaps - but not the horrific alternative of Burger King and its ilk.

Jred didn't really eat the way subway claims, by the way....

Not really.

If you get the stuff made "Baja style" and without cheese, it's actually not that bad for you. Not as nutritious as a salad, wrap or sandwich from Subway perhaps - but not the horrific alternative of Burger King and its ilk.


I refuse to eat food that I cannot distinguish from this.

http://www.sitstay.com/store/edibles/pics/ED700.jpg

Dairy Queen used to have a billboard in calgary with a picture of a Sundae and the words said, "Here Jared, Jared, Jared.".

They interviewed a girl in Super Size Me and said she'd like to do what Jared did, but can't afford 3 sandwiches a day. No one, including Jared, offered her advice to make her own at home for a fraction of the price and an increase in quality.


Probably because that would be too obvious. If you can't figure out how to make a sandwich you have some problems.

Jred didn't really eat the way subway claims, by the way....


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/02/48hours/main603484.shtml

I refuse to eat food that I cannot distinguish from this.

http://www.sitstay.com/store/edibles/pics/ED700.jpg

One of my current staples -- canned, fat-free refried beans -- not only looks like pet food, but when you open the can, it smells just like it, too. Doesn't matter, though... that stuff is tasty and nutritious once you heat it up and maybe mix in a splash of salsa. :love:

I hate seeing those commercials also and was just commenting to my wife about this tonight (as one of his commercials came on). I don't see how he can go around talking to kids telling them about fitness and nutrition, when I don't see him being a role model for either. If you look at his latest commercials he is definitely overweight (so what if he lost a ton of weight), he should be an example of the fact that it can be done, but shouldn't be one to be telling kids how to do it. I read that article and they are making it better than it is (he only lost 235 by their admission as he went from 425 to 190, even I can do the math). Look at the latest commercials and he is nowhere near 190 (I would guess 210 to 220 at best, which would definitely qualify him as obese by any standards today). I think it is great that he lost, but let's face it someone telling little kids that by doing what I did (eating better, not sensibly as he skipped meals and ate fast food only by his own admission) youto can go from being grotessquely overweight/obese to being just obese is really not giving them much to shoot for. Hey Subway(you say that you are owned by Dr's and a healthy alternative) how about you also have something in your ads and advice about getting outside and doing something that would expell some energy and be construed as exercise (have yet to see that in any of the commercials, just Jared arguing with true athletes that are always asking for the more meat sandwiches and not the ones that Jared claims we should eat,seems to be working for the actually fit athletes)?

Does anybody hate seeing the Subway commercial guy, Jared? First of all I don't even know if he is that fit because he never has his clothes off...

Two words: loose skin.

Jred didn't really eat the way subway claims, by the way....

Unfortunately Jared Fogle has become a target for naysayers, many of whom are obese. I've met fat people who insist it's impossible to lose weight through diet and exercise alone. These poor folks often choose to have surgery, and the medical profession smiles, cuts, and takes the big check.

I've had to deal with naysayers at my gym, and I have no doubt some of the fat people at my company have been talking nonsense quietly among themselves. I've had fat people question me when they've seen me take my multivitamin, or a aspirin. I can see the disappointment in their faces when they discover it's not a weight loss pill.

For the record, I've lost 137 pounds in 17 months, and I've eaten a lot of turkey subs. :-)

Probably because that would be too obvious. If you can't figure out how to make a sandwich you have some problems.


:roflmao:

fer real

Unfortunately Jared Fogle has become a target for naysayers, many of whom are obese. I've met fat people who insist it's impossible to lose weight through diet and exercise alone. These poor folks often choose to have surgery, and the medical profession smiles, cuts, and takes the big check.

I've had to deal with naysayers at my gym, and I have no doubt some of the fat people at my company have been talking nonsense quietly among themselves. I've had fat people question me when they've seen me take my multivitamin, or a aspirin. I can see the disappointment in their faces when they discover it's not a weight loss pill.

For the record, I've lost 137 pounds in 17 months, and I've eaten a lot of turkey subs. :-)

As a fitness coach, I know exactly what you mean. Nice job, by the way! That's close to what I lost back in the day, although I did it more slowly.

I'm a big fan of the chicken fajita pita at jack-in-the-box. 300 calories. I've eaten a lot of those during the last 6 months during which I've lost about 25 pounds.

I like subs, but can make something pretty close to Subway's version at home with little effort.

I've also had people scoff at me when I answer their "how did you lose the weight?" question with -- "by eating less and busting my ass in the gym and on my bike." Deep down, they know the answer to the question (work out more, eat less), but they're hoping I'll answer differently.

I heard Jared IS relatively fit, and also has lots of loose skin. And I love subway. Its true you can make a better sandwich for cheaper at home. but when i'm in a hurry and forget to pack a lunch, subway is a great stand in. and $2.50 for a Whole Wheat Turkey lettuce spinach tomato 1/2 cheese pickle olive pepperocini nomayo little olive oil & vineagar is not a bad deal :D

Then i see the Quiznos commercials where they make fun of subway by saying "tired of those other places where what they make looks like your mom's homemade school lunches? our sandwiches have 3x the meat!" then they show a sandwich overflowing with meat and tiny bits of veggies sticking out, with bubbling cheese all over and being drizzled with some kind of thick ranch dressing. To which i usually shout "that's not the point!" I haven't checked Quiznos calorie counter if they have one on their site but if you compare Quiznos to Subway you will probably see why Subway still has lots of loyal fans.

However, i'm trying to cut back as I read that processed lunchmeats cause cancer...

If he bothers you, that is cool . . . I hate many a commercial and the products they sell.


However:
A) none of the ads claim he is overly fit or athletic
B) he is healthier, just based on bodyweight, than about 50% of the US population and that is an issue
C) if some people switch from McD's value meals to a 'healthy' (6 inch on wheat with no mayo with fruit and a bottled water) that is a REALLY REALLY good thing

As far as him personally, he went to Indiana University (look at my avatar) and ate A LOT at the subway near where my sister in law was living at that time. She can confirm he at there a ton, so I believe it was a huge part of his body change

IMHO obesity is going to be the #1 issue for the US for the next generation . . . anything that can help some is good if you ask me. But of course you did not ask me.

I refuse to eat food that I cannot distinguish from this.

http://www.sitstay.com/store/edibles/pics/ED700.jpg

My wife loves Taco Bell even though I'm of partial Mexican heritage and can cook authentic, healthy and delicious Mexican food at home. She just loves sour cream, fake guacamole, MSG and loads of milk fat in the cheese that I don't do.

So I've learned I can cut our road trip pit stops short by ordering "al fresca" tacos which have no deep fried ingredients, no sour cream, guac or cheese. The chicken tacos are not terrible.

However, i'm trying to cut back as I read that processed lunchmeats cause cancer...

I'm in the same boat!

I've taken a friend's advice and for the last 10 days have added fish as a daily meat source and have eliminated all egg yolks and milk fat. I still have some pork and chicken but not as the main meal. Despite even eating lean deli meats normally (which were totally replaced), I can feel a real difference in my riding. My blood seems to be moving more smoothly. Objectively, my resting morning pulse has dropped about 3 bpm.

Give it a try! Fish for two weeks rocks.

My wife loves Taco Bell even though I'm of partial Mexican heritage and can cook authentic, healthy and delicious Mexican food at home. She just loves sour cream, fake guacamole, MSG and loads of milk fat in the cheese that I don't do.

So I've learned I can cut our road trip pit stops short by ordering "al fresca" tacos which have no deep fried ingredients, no sour cream, guac or cheese. The chicken tacos are not terrible.


In general I don't care for Mexican(i.e. Americanized-mexican food). It is just a giant plate of amorphous meat and beans with no particular flavor other than hot. All the spices just mix in with each other resulting in a boring meal. It is rather unsophistocated for food.

However, my brother loves authentic mexican food which I can tolerate as it is more sophisticated with its different spices and fresh tasting ingredients. Thinking that Taco bell is mexican food is tantamount to thinking Chef Boyardee is italian food.

I'm in the same boat!

I've taken a friend's advice and for the last 10 days have added fish as a daily meat source and have eliminated all egg yolks and milk fat. I still have some pork and chicken but not as the main meal. Despite even eating lean deli meats normally (which were totally replaced), I can feel a real difference in my riding. My blood seems to be moving more smoothly. Objectively, my resting morning pulse has dropped about 3 bpm.

Give it a try! Fish for two weeks rocks.


What fish have you been eating? I love Salmon and other fatty fishes, but I can't deal with the flaky types. Anything that is Salmon-esque?

What fish have you been eating? I love Salmon and other fatty fishes, but I can't deal with the flaky types. Anything that is Salmon-esque?

It's getting overfished, but you can try swordfish and other deep sea nomadic fishes.

What fish have you been eating? I love Salmon and other fatty fishes, but I can't deal with the flaky types. Anything that is Salmon-esque?

Tuna can be fatty and good. Maybe dressing up that white flaky fish is the thing to do?

My favorite quick fish meal are baja style fish tacos. You can get these on the beach there. It's a straight-from-the-ocean white fish grilled and slapped on a steamed corn tortilla with fresh squeezed lime juice, fresh salsa and very finely shaven cabbage. Amazing!

My version takes a rinsed store-bought white fish like halibut or talapia either grilled (oil your grill liberally) or high-heat toasted (yeah I'm a foodie with a toaster oven) with a small whole grain tortilla, very finely shaved lettuce or cabbage plus fresh salsa plus lotsa lime. I can be done cooking lunch in less than 10 minutes.

If I have some time I'll finely shave an entire bunch of cilantro (stems and all), whip it up with some lime, garlic and yogurt (organic nonfat) and toss my greens with that. I've also been known to do a beer and egg white batter and then roll in a spice mix of salt, cumin, ground red pepper, dried ground cilantro, oregano and black pepper.

I've had to deal with naysayers at my gym, and I have no doubt some of the fat people at my company have been talking nonsense quietly among themselves. I've had fat people question me when they've seen me take my multivitamin, or a aspirin. I can see the disappointment in their faces when they discover it's not a weight loss pill.

For the record, I've lost 137 pounds in 17 months, and I've eaten a lot of turkey subs. :-)

Good for you. My (wayyyyyyyyyyy beyond morbidly obese) father called me the other day to say how vitamins are bad for you, caffeine is good for you (which I don't really dispute) and other 'wrong' nutritional info he's tired of having to fight off. So he's boycotting the entire thought process and letting his belt out (I could practically wear it longitudinally already). Lots of rationalization about how blood pressure and chemistry don't predict anything, correlation is not causation, yadda yadda... It was my first real exposure to how people get invested in that kind of status quo. Depressing.

In general I don't care for Mexican(i.e. Americanized-mexican food). It is just a giant plate of amorphous meat and beans with no particular flavor other than hot. All the spices just mix in with each other resulting in a boring meal. It is rather unsophistocated for food.

However, my brother loves authentic mexican food which I can tolerate as it is more sophisticated with its different spices and fresh tasting ingredients. Thinking that Taco bell is mexican food is tantamount to thinking Chef Boyardee is italian food.

I have family recipes but honestly, I get most of my Mexican food ideas from Rick Bayless. :p

Mexican cuisine to me is one of the most varied on the planet earth, arguably second only to French cuisine. My wife rightly and goodly forces me to use mango, chayote, jicama, pumpkin seed, chocolate, papaya, masa, potatoes, nopales, corn mushrooms and zucchini flowers as much as the more typical ingredients like tomato, onion, chilies, beans, rice.

I have family recipes but honestly, I get most of my Mexican food ideas from Rick Bayless. :p

Mexican cuisine to me is one of the most varied on the planet earth, arguably second only to French cuisine. My wife rightly and goodly forces me to use mango, chayote, jicama, pumpkin seed, chocolate, papaya, masa, potatoes, nopales, corn mushrooms and zucchini flowers as much as the more typical ingredients like tomato, onion, chilies, beans, rice.


Italian is quite varied as well from the light and fresh Tuscan meals to the Venetian seafood to the hearty roman and sicilian food so common in the US.

What about Taco Bell?
It's all about Del Taco when it comes to fast-Mexican food for me.
A Macho Combo chicken blows the Chalupa, Gordita, Crunch Wraps,. etc out of the water any day of the week.
This is of course if there is no In'N'Out nearby.
As far as Subway goes, they're tasty once in a blue moon.

psh... fast-food style mexican is almost easier to just make at home, and is much cheaper (yes, even cheaper than taco bell!) Here is a sure-fire burrito recipe that I made up. It’s mighty tasty and much healthier than Chipotle or Taco Bell, mostly because of better ingredients and a much much lower salt content. The rice is optional (I didn’t make it this last time, in fact) This servers 4 easily so if you are eating alone or with another person, you will (should) have leftovers.

* 1 lb ground beef, chuck, sirloin, or round (I prefer chuck because it’s lean enough and inexpensive compared to sirloin or round, and not much pricier than ground beef)
* 2 medium potatoes washed, unpeeled
* 1 bag frozen 3-pepper and onion mix (This is my favorite item at the grocery store because it’s cheaper than buying the three peppers and onions separately, plus I don’t have to chop them)
* Spices (I never measure. I season until the food looks and smells right, then taste and season again to adjust. It’s not really the right way, but I don’t care. My grandmother and my mother both cook like this, so that’s how I cook too.) Here’s what I use:
o Kosher salt
o Coarse ground black pepper
o Cilantro
o Garlic powder
o Red pepper flakes
o Ground cayenne pepper
o Chili powder
o Ground cumin
* 1 cup or so water

(Optional: This is enough for one person.)

* 1 cup uncooked minute rice
* Cilantro
* 2-3 tblsp lime juice

Cut the potatoes into largish chunks by cutting in half length-wise, then cut each half into length-wise thirds. Slice the thirds every half to 3/4 inches. Add the potatoes to a 10-12″ cast iron skillet at medium-low heat, and sprinkle a pinch of kosher salt over them. When the potatoes are about half done, add the ground meat and brown. Drain meat and potatoes in a colander (do not douse with water) and let sit. Increase heat to medium and add the frozen vegetables. When the onions are just translucent, add the meat and potato mix back to the skillet. Add the spices to taste. Approx. 1/2 tblsp kosher salt, 1 tblsp black pepper, 1/2 tblsp cilantro and garlic powder, 1/4 tblsp red pepper flakes and cayenne pepper (more of these if you like it hot!), 4 tblsp chili powder, 2 tblsp cumin. Add 1/2 the water and stir slowly. Add small amounts of water occasionally to deglaze the pan. When the potatoes are done and the last of the water is boiled off, remove from heat and serve with your favorite toppings in burrito size tortillas that have been moistened with water and microwaved on high for 15 to 20 seconds. (This makes them easy to roll and fold without breaking)

Rice: Make rice according to instructions on box. Add lime juice and cilantro. Stir.

I'm in the same boat!

I've taken a friend's advice and for the last 10 days have added fish as a daily meat source and have eliminated all egg yolks and milk fat. I still have some pork and chicken but not as the main meal. Despite even eating lean deli meats normally (which were totally replaced), I can feel a real difference in my riding. My blood seems to be moving more smoothly. Objectively, my resting morning pulse has dropped about 3 bpm.

Give it a try! Fish for two weeks rocks.
Just don't over do it on fish. http://www.fda.gov/fdac/reprints/mercury.html
Everything in moderation.

you can also use roughly the same recipe for fajitas too. take out the potatoes and ground beef and sub in steak or chicken cut in strips. maybe add more onions if you like. or use a fruit salsa.

i agree. "Mexican" is quite a varied cuisine. Between the coastal varieties with lots of seafood and the central inland varieties and the "tex-mex" style and baja and "california" styles there is a lot to choose from, much like Chinese food. (real Chinese food. not the egg roll crap from the buffet restaurants)

One bad thing about subway is un godly amount of Sodium in their sandwiches. 6" has about 1k+ mg! I eat one of those and you take in at least 50% of your daily needs! :eek:

One bad thing about subway is un godly amount of Sodium in their sandwiches. 6" has about 1k+ mg! I eat one of those and you take in at least 50% of your daily needs! :eek:


What is wrong with sodium?

What is wrong with sodium?
I think it's one of the contributing factors of high blood pressure. Although I guess overall research is kind of inconclusive, and it really depends on persons genetic predisposition to retaining sodium.

........., he's got moobs. .

Moobs. I love it. Never heard that before.

As fast food goes, it's probably not the worst, and you at least get to pick the ingredients put on the sandwich.

I think it's one of the contributing factors of high blood pressure. Although I guess overall research is kind of inconclusive, and it really depends on persons genetic predisposition to retaining sodium.


If you are sodium sensitive, a genetic condition, your body will react by having an elevated blood presssure. But sodium does not cause high blood pressure. And with water, your kidneys flush it out within hours anyway.

imho it doesnt beat a deli sandwich