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Siu Blue Wind
05-29-07, 09:56 PM
I got this sent to me. Maybe some of you might figure a reason why this wasn't made available to the public. What is happening here to where a song like this cannot be released??? I just don't friggen get it!! :mad:
Here is the email:
In March, 2005, this song was performed at a Diamond Rio concert. They received an immediate standing ovation, and continue to do so every time they perform it!
Sadly, major radio stations wouldn't play it because it was considered politically incorrect. Consequently, the song was never released to the public. If this song speaks to your heart, share it with friends and loved ones. Then let us cease being the silent majority and join together -- not as a particular political party, but as Americans!
- 3 min song -
http://gunbarrelcityradio.com/InGodWeStillTrust.wmv
Please let's keep this in Foo and not get it into P and R.
bugmenot
05-29-07, 10:02 PM
idiotic http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/diamondrio.asp
-VELOCITY-
05-29-07, 10:05 PM
Very nice song. Nice message. I don't see anything politically incorrect about it at all.
Michigander
05-29-07, 10:19 PM
Its like so many of my favorite Steppenwolf songs that no radio station anywhere will play anymore. The media is controlled by people with an agenda.
As the snopes article stated, it did not stack up well against other songs. It is a great message but not that good of a song.
lodi781
05-29-07, 10:51 PM
Although I personally disagree with the stance in the song, I do believe in his constitutional right to have it played on the radio. If the KKK can hold rallies with words of hate, he should be allowed to have his song heard. I just happen to disagree with what hes saying.
lyeinyoureye
05-29-07, 11:24 PM
The song's available to the public. Unless that isn't the song you linked to? In any event, I think there's tons of music that never gets major air time because it likely won't make enough m0n3yz to be seen as worthwhile. T3h m0n3yz m4k3z t3h w3rldz g0 r0und! :D
Constitutional right to radio time? No such thing in practice. There MIGHT be a free not for profit radio system our there, but certainly nothing of volume or consequence. And the for profit sector has no consitutional mandate at all.
Its like so many of my favorite Steppenwolf songs that no radio station anywhere will play anymore. The media is controlled by people with an agenda.
the media is controlled by people with money. most highly successful people are very highly opinionated and use their financial clout to voice that opinion.
CyLowe97
05-30-07, 08:03 AM
If I had a nickel for every song by every obscure artist I thought would be huge if it just got radio airplay, I'd be rich.
However, payola rules on the corporate airwaves, not me.
BostonFixed
05-30-07, 08:12 AM
I got this sent to me. Maybe some of you might figure a reason why this wasn't made available to the public. What is happening here to where a song like this cannot be released??? I just don't friggen get it!! :mad:
Here is the email:
In March, 2005, this song was performed at a Diamond Rio concert. They received an immediate standing ovation, and continue to do so every time they perform it!
Sadly, major radio stations wouldn't play it because it was considered politically incorrect. Consequently, the song was never released to the public. If this song speaks to your heart, share it with friends and loved ones. Then let us cease being the silent majority and join together -- not as a particular political party, but as Americans!
Do you beleieve everything someone sends you in an email? :rolleyes:
Read the snopes link in the first reply to this thread.
ajay677
05-30-07, 08:15 AM
Although I personally disagree with the stance in the song, I do believe in his constitutional right to have it played on the radio. If the KKK can hold rallies with words of hate, he should be allowed to have his song heard. I just happen to disagree with what hes saying.
Which part of the constitution/which amendment guarantees the right to radio airtime?
BostonFixed
05-30-07, 08:17 AM
Although I personally disagree with the stance in the song, I do believe in his constitutional right to have it played on the radio. If the KKK can hold rallies with words of hate, he should be allowed to have his song heard. I just happen to disagree with what hes saying.
Winner!
Winner!
Of what, the did not read anything award? The song got air play. It does not get it any longer because it is not a good song, not because of it's message.
CyLowe97
05-30-07, 08:43 AM
Of what, the did not read anything award? The song got air play. It does not get it any longer because it is not a good song, not because of it's message.
Precisely.
Great political songs will find airplay. You'll get your "Southern Man" by Neil Young and the rebuttal of "Sweet Home Alabama." You'll hear "Ohio" by Buffalo Springfield or "Fortunate Son" by CCR because they are great songs with messages that resonate (sp) with an audience.
If Diamond Rio's song was good, then it would be heard on country radio alongside Toby Keith's "The Angry American" and that one guy's "Have You Forgotten" about the 9/11 attacks.
If you want too controversial for country, just ask the Dixie Chicks. While I don't find anything they said or sing to be politically incorrect, stations 'banned' their songs. That did not stop them from finding an audience or responding with their latest album Taking The Long Way. They still get airplay and sell records because, well, their music is pretty good.
Ritehsedad
05-30-07, 10:21 AM
the media is controlled by people with money. most highly successful people are very highly opinionated and use their financial clout to voice that opinion.
You got that right, brother!
Probably because not all Americans believe in a singular masculine deity... Not a prerequsite to national pride and a sense of community IIRC.
-VELOCITY-
05-30-07, 10:35 AM
Not to change the subject but what's "IIRC"?
Stacey, you need to go to L one more time!
This is a really bad song, lyrics aside, as someone posted above. I'd like to believe that this is why it doesn't get air time.
Nicodemus
05-30-07, 02:00 PM
Good old snopes. Always a useful one to have bookmarked.
Don't worry Siu, I actually fell for the java teddy bear icon DLL hoax and I'm a programmer ferchrissakes (that won't make any sense to most people).
It's a terrible song, and there is no doubt it's highly political - it's propaganda for imposing religious (and based on all the symbols, exclusively Christian) values on secular activities like schools and the courts. Did you notice how they displayed flag burning when they mentioned those items? The implication is that anyone who supports the constitutional separation of church and state must hate America!
Hambone40
05-30-07, 03:05 PM
I like the song and the message. But then again, I am a conservative, Christine American. Others have the right to not like the song or the message and it is all good with me. Thanks for posting the song Sui.
Nicodemus
05-30-07, 03:54 PM
Okay, you all piqued my interest.
I paused some funkin cool electronic bassbeat shiznit that I am totally digging right now.
And listened to that lovely, lovely song.
The switchover was quite jarring. My brain hurts. I think it just crawled into my rectum to escape the horror of that song's awfulness.
I don't mean to be jerk Siu, but wouldn't common sense have told you that the reason nobody plays that song is because it's torture for the soul? I mean... DAMN that was painful.
Mr. Gear Jammer
05-30-07, 05:15 PM
I got this sent to me. Maybe some of you might figure a reason why this wasn't made available to the public. What is happening here to where a song like this cannot be released??? I just don't friggen get it!! :mad:
Here is the email:
In March, 2005, this song was performed at a Diamond Rio concert. They received an immediate standing ovation, and continue to do so every time they perform it!
Sadly, major radio stations wouldn't play it because it was considered politically incorrect. Consequently, the song was never released to the public. If this song speaks to your heart, share it with friends and loved ones. Then let us cease being the silent majority and join together -- not as a particular political party, but as Americans!
- 3 min song -
http://gunbarrelcityradio.com/InGodWeStillTrust.wmv
Please let's keep this in Foo and not get it into P and R.
Diamond Rio song banned? bogus they are country for crying out loud.
Why it was sent to Siu Blue I haven't a clue.
But face it, it is not as catchy as "Surfin' on the Illinois". by Mackinaw
chipcom
05-30-07, 05:35 PM
How many of the songs on any album get released as singles and played on the radio? Nuff said.
kidcharlamagne
05-30-07, 09:41 PM
Maybe some of you might figure a reason why this wasn't made available to the public
because it sucks
Siu Blue Wind
05-30-07, 10:08 PM
I like the song and the message. But then again, I am a conservative, Christine American. Others have the right to not like the song or the message and it is all good with me. Thanks for posting the song Sui.
I guess for me it was exactly this. ^^ I am VERY patriotic and I believe in God and in the message. I understand now that it may not be for everyone but it to me it just seemed that it didn't really cross so many borders. With the music nowadays with all the cussing and gang talk, a song like this didn't seem to be so bad.
And you're welcome Hambone. I'm glad you liked it. :)
kidcharlamagne
05-30-07, 10:17 PM
With the music nowadays with all the cussing and gang talk
Believe it or not, there is a middle ground between the hymn you originally posted and music with “cussing and gang talk”.
Hambone40
05-30-07, 10:19 PM
Believe it or not, there is a middle ground between the hymn you originally posted and music with “cussing and gang talk”.
Relax. You don't have to like the song, but no need to give Siu a hard time because she does like it.
kidcharlamagne
05-30-07, 10:25 PM
Relax. You don't have to like the song, but no need to give Siu a hard time because she does like it.
Not at all. Everyone is entitled to their own tastes, even those who enjoy the mindless music filled with said cursing. There is just too much good music out there to make statements that paint with such a broad brush. Music is so available now that I see no reason for people to feel they're pigeonholed into one or two selections, whatever they may be.
Hambone40
05-30-07, 10:28 PM
Not at all. Everyone is entitled to their own tastes, even those who enjoy the mindless music filled with said cursing. There is just too much good music out there to make statements that paint with such a broad brush. Music is so available now that I see no reason for people to feel they're pigeonholed into one or two selections, whatever they may be.
The above post is well said. Much better than "becuase it sucks."
Siu Blue Wind
05-30-07, 10:34 PM
Not at all. Everyone is entitled to their own tastes, even those who enjoy the mindless music filled with said cursing. There is just too much good music out there to make statements that paint with such a broad brush. Music is so available now that I see no reason for people to feel they're pigeonholed into one or two selections, whatever they may be.
Please don't get me wrong :o - I wasn't insinuating there were only two choices, from one extreme to the next, I was just saying that they allow music that glorifies ****, abuse, drugs, stealing, "gang banging" and sexual explicities yet a song like this doesn't seem so harsh to me gets limited air time? I like music you can listen to with your grandparents, grandchildren and everyone in between. Maybe that is why I like country so much.
kidcharlamagne
05-30-07, 10:51 PM
I like music you can listen to with your grandparents, grandchildren and everyone in between. Maybe that is why I like country so much.
"Billy's got his beer goggles on", "tequila makes her clothes fall off", & "get drunk and be somebody", and that's just recent stuff off the top of my head.:eek:
Sorry, I just couldn't resist:D
Siu Blue Wind
05-30-07, 10:53 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmaybe I listen to a different kind of country...........:lol:
I guess for me it was exactly this. ^^ I am VERY patriotic and I believe in God and in the message. I understand now that it may not be for everyone but it to me it just seemed that it didn't really cross so many borders. With the music nowadays with all the cussing and gang talk, a song like this didn't seem to be so bad.
And you're welcome Hambone. I'm glad you liked it. :)
Sis, check out the first line. It sets the tone. It tells me as a nonbeliever that I can't care about my country and fellow Americans.
Minesbroken
05-31-07, 05:21 AM
sorry but I dont do country music...I couldnt listen to it long enough to give you an unbiased opinion.
:D
Minesbroken
05-31-07, 05:36 AM
Please don't get me wrong :o - I wasn't insinuating there were only two choices, from one extreme to the next, I was just saying that they allow music that glorifies ****, abuse, drugs, stealing, "gang banging" and sexual explicities yet a song like this doesn't seem so harsh to me gets limited air time? I like music you can listen to with your grandparents, grandchildren and everyone in between. Maybe that is why I like country so much.
Its probably because in the part of the country where they listen to country music they dont glorify ****, abuse, drugs , stealing and gang banging...so they have no tolerance for it and that type of music gets no air time. the people who listen Rap music music dont care as much about being politically correct. I too like music I can listen to with my whole family but then theres music I like that they wouldnt be interested in. you know what a country singer gets back when they stop singing? The dog, the house, the pickup truck..and the wife ;)
I listen to CSN with the family...Billy Joel...Cranberries..theres so much music out there...clean and otherwise. I prefer Rock, Hard Rock and Alternative...I believe that most of my favorites fall into those catagories.
To each his/her own.
Listen to what you like.
Most of the time things dont get airtime because nobody likes it and they dont think they will get good ratings from it. wether or not its politically correct ususally has little bearing on the decision to air it or not.
Bottom line is: If it will make them money...you will hear it on the air...if not...then no.
Nicodemus
05-31-07, 06:26 AM
I am VERY patriotic and I believe in God and in the message.
Why? Particularly the patriotism thing.
I'm not going to let you get away with sitting back on "I love America and God" to justify that song.
lodi781
05-31-07, 06:30 AM
Of what, the did not read anything award? The song got air play. It does not get it any longer because it is not a good song, not because of it's message.
I must have misread. It was my understanding that the content was the reason for the lack of air play. And yes, I agree with you, the song sux.
Nicodemus
05-31-07, 06:30 AM
Relax. You don't have to like the song, but no need to give Siu a hard time because she does like it.
I won't give someone a hard time for liking country. I'll pity them, but I won't give them a hard time.
The problem isn't the style of the song. It's the quality, the lyrics, and the message.
For me it's everything, but don't go thinking that anyone's bashing it just because it's cheez-azz country. It's much worse than that.
CyLowe97
05-31-07, 06:34 AM
Why? Particularly the patriotism thing.
I'm not going to let you get away with sitting back on "I love America and God" to justify that song.
Patriotism is as much exposing the faults of America ("Born in the USA" by Springsteen) as it is jingoistic sabre rattling ("The Angry American" by Toby Keith) or blatant pride ("God Bless The USA" by Lee Greenwood).
True patriots don't just fall in line with what's popular. They expose faults and help to fill in the gaps for those who may have fallen through the cracks.
lodi781
05-31-07, 06:37 AM
Which part of the constitution/which amendment guarantees the right to radio airtime?
I was pointing to the fact that content should not be the basis for a song not being played. I'm well aware that there is no specific amandment or part thereof that covers airplay. But to me it's the point. Anything that seems to go against the grain of society is brushed under the carpet. I personally don't like the song. I dislike it's contents and think it sux in general. That being said, If I heard that song on the radio, I would just change the station.
CyLowe97
05-31-07, 06:40 AM
That being said, If I heard that song on the radio, I would just change the station.
This is the reason it did not get airplay.
This is the reason that most singles released do not get airplay.
It has nothing to do with politics. It has to do with ratings and the ability to sell ad time.
lodi781
05-31-07, 07:08 AM
Patriotism is as much exposing the faults of America ("Born in the USA" by Springsteen) as it is jingoistic sabre rattling ("The Angry American" by Toby Keith) or blatant pride ("God Bless The USA" by Lee Greenwood).
True patriots don't just fall in line with what's popular. They expose faults and help to fill in the gaps for those who may have fallen through the cracks.
+10000000000000000000000000000
Nicodemus
05-31-07, 07:32 AM
Patriotism is as much exposing the faults of America ("Born in the USA" by Springsteen) as it is jingoistic sabre rattling ("The Angry American" by Toby Keith) or blatant pride ("God Bless The USA" by Lee Greenwood).
True patriots don't just fall in line with what's popular. They expose faults and help to fill in the gaps for those who may have fallen through the cracks.
By your definition I don't find that song truly patriotic. It was more like blatant pride wrapped up in religious zeal, all chocked together with cheeseball cliche sentimentality (but that's most of what american patriotism is, really).
What exactly is patriotism other than the belief that your country is better than others because you're in it?
I'm proud of my Englishness, but I'll be damned if I ever consider myself a "patriot". Keep the flags outta my sight.
I guess for me it was exactly this. ^^ I am VERY patriotic and I believe in God and in the message. I understand now that it may not be for everyone but it to me it just seemed that it didn't really cross so many borders. With the music nowadays with all the cussing and gang talk, a song like this didn't seem to be so bad.
And you're welcome Hambone. I'm glad you liked it. :)
You're welcome to enjoy the song and worship the God of your choice, but the political message of the song (if I were American) is that I should have to hear about your God non-stop everywhere I go - school, government offices, whatever - and if I object to that, I must hate my country; and you know damn well that's crap.
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