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Serendipper
05-31-07, 03:00 AM
...compared to the size and glory of the universe!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ptdbNUtpx4

You need to enlarge film to fully comprehend.

Puts thing is perspective, now doesn't it?;)


KrisPistofferson
05-31-07, 03:32 AM
How many Scraper Bikes could you make from a Death Star?

Serendipper
05-31-07, 03:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvNhw888XmM&mode=related&search=


crtreedude
05-31-07, 03:50 AM
As strange as it may seem, one of the most comforting things that I heard when I was growing up was:

You are a fluke of the Universe
You have no right to be here
and whether you know it or not
the Universe is laughing behind your back...

Anytime I start to take myself a bit too seriously, I remember I am but a spec and my time here is but a blink - and any problem I am going through is less than a blink in time.

Serendipper
05-31-07, 04:02 AM
As strange as it may seem, one of the most comforting things that I heard when I was growing up was:

You are a fluke of the Universe
You have no right to be here
and whether you know it or not
the Universe is laughing behind your back...

Anytime I start to take myself a bit too seriously, I remember I am but a spec and my time here is but a blink - and any problem I am going through is less than a blink in time.


That's beautiful. I'm going through a rough patch right now, but it's incomprehensibly insignificant in the scheme of things!

Serendipper
05-31-07, 04:13 AM
Discuss:

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/Serendipper/5xj55pz.jpg

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/Serendipper/4rbmjd4.jpg

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/Serendipper/4za4o47.jpg

crtreedude
05-31-07, 04:37 AM
Here in our frontier town, well I am someone. I have more than a few employees and considerable amount of land. But, if you let yourself start thinking you are mister wonderful - it starts setting you up for disappointment.

I look at the Donald Trumps of world and think "What a clueless jerk". He looks absolutely miserable but thinks he is a bigshot. I mean, he doesn't even have good hair!

Whatever your situation, do your best and enjoy the ride. The bad things shape you to be better and stronger - unless they kill you of course and then you won't be worrying about it anyway. ;)

Serendipper
05-31-07, 05:52 AM
Whatever your situation, do your best and enjoy the ride. The bad things shape you to be better and stronger - unless they kill you of course and then you won't be worrying about it anyway. ;)

I would really like to open a broader discussion on the nature and spectacle of the universe.

Other life forms...do they exist?

Is it (space) infinite?

If not, the what is the nature of it's boundaries?

Does time have a beginning and end if the universe is finite?

Since we are but particles to a Red Giant, then what is the nature of our own atomic particles? Are these things really the same? Does that mean that stars are sentient?

If data can be stored as binary waves, are memories subject to the same conservation laws as energy? If so, then is there an argument for the continuance of consciousness?

Nicodemus
05-31-07, 06:03 AM
Yeah, but they don't have any problems. They're just big balls of gas.
Wait, maybe that's why they don't have any problems.

hmmm, maybe VegasVic is on to something.

Nicodemus
05-31-07, 06:07 AM
As strange as it may seem, one of the most comforting things that I heard when I was growing up was:

You are a fluke of the Universe
You have no right to be here
and whether you know it or not
the Universe is laughing behind your back...

Anytime I start to take myself a bit too seriously, I remember I am but a spec and my time here is but a blink - and any problem I am going through is less than a blink in time.
I have always derived a sublime pleasure from looking at the stars on a clear night.

There's something immensely comforting in laying there just staring at all those points of light and not letting my mind try to make order of it. Just to lie there and take in all that wonder, and know that I can never truly comprehend how vast and beautiful this universe is makes me feel insignificant and wonderful.

The Southern Hemisphere's great for that sort of thing - nice view of the Milky Way. My best experience was in Namibia - 85 miles from the nearest light bulb.

Serendipper
05-31-07, 06:09 AM
Yeah, but they don't have any problems. They're just big balls of gas.
Wait, maybe that's why they don't have any problems.

hmmm, maybe VegasVic is on to something.


If one's awareness is in direct proportion to one's worriedness, then God must be miserable.

Nicodemus
05-31-07, 06:20 AM
I would really like to open a broader discussion on the nature and spectacle of the universe.

Other life forms...do they exist?
They'd better do. We're making a mockery of sentience.

Is it (space) infinite?
It better be. We need breathing room!

If not, the what is the nature of it's boundaries?
Probably something akin to a very stretched out fruit roll-up. Strawberry flavour.

Does time have a beginning and end if the universe is finite?
Yes.

Since we are but particles to a Red Giant, then what is the nature of our own atomic particles? Are these things really the same? Does that mean that stars are sentient?
By that logic the curry paste in the back of my fridge has as much right to be sentient. I find that disturbing. Especially since the jar of sambal also has a right to sentience. And if that were the case I do NOT want to be in the middle of that sauce war. Those two are nasty.

If data can be stored as binary waves, are memories subject to the same canservation laws as energy? If so, then is there an argument for the continuance of consciousness?
That's an interesting question. I don't believe that consciousness continues, but I am curious about some of the stuff I've read about entropy and information theory and stuff like that. I'll shut up now, let's see if anyone useful has something to add...

Serendipper
05-31-07, 06:26 AM
Since we are but particles to a Red Giant, then what is the nature of our own atomic particles? Are these things really the same? Does that mean that stars are sentient?
By that logic the curry paste in the back of my fridge has as much right to be sentient. I find that disturbing. Especially since the jar of sambal also has a right to sentience. And if that were the case I do NOT want to be in the middle of that sauce war. Those two are nasty.


:roflmao:

Why man...whyyy?You're killin' me!!LOL!

CyLowe97
05-31-07, 06:28 AM
The Earth may be nothing on the Universal scale.

I may be but a speck on the Earth.

Spider bites still hurt like a m*********!

It's all relative.

Serendipper
05-31-07, 06:51 AM
The Earth may be nothing on the Universal scale.

I may be but a speck on the Earth.

Spider bites still hurt like a m*********!

It's all relative.

Stars also die eventually. Perhaps they lament over their regrets and feel pain as well.

DrPete
05-31-07, 07:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JSR_6qfXTg

"So remember when you're feeling very small and insecure
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space
'cause there's bugger all down here on Earth."

---Monty Python

:D

polara426sh
05-31-07, 07:47 AM
Other life forms...do they exist?
Absolutely.

Is it (space) infinite?
Possibly, but we will never know unless someone figures out a way to travel at velocities much greater than the speed of light.

If not, the what is the nature of it's boundaries?
And what happens at that boundary? If there is a physical boundary, there must be something beyond, otherwise the boundary would be a plane like singularity, which according to physics as we currently understand it can not exist. I believe that at the end, the only boundary is space and time. There is a practical boundary, not a physical one. Either that or it wraps around like in Ms. Pac Man.

Does time have a beginning and end if the universe is finite?
There must be a t=0. In my mind there must be a beginning. I can not accept the concept of "it always was". That doesn't mean that this is the first time that the universe has experienced a "Big Bang" then collapsed again until all the mass was in one place and Planck temperature was reached, starting the cycle over.

Since we are but particles to a Red Giant, then what is the nature of our own atomic particles? Are these things really the same? Does that mean that stars are sentient?

No, size does not dictate consciousness.

If data can be stored as binary waves, are memories subject to the same conservation laws as energy? If so, then is there an argument for the continuance of consciousness?

Does that mean that I am merely the continuance of someone else's thoughts?

Serendipper
05-31-07, 07:57 AM
Since we are but particles to a Red Giant, then what is the nature of our own atomic particles? Are these things really the same? Does that mean that stars are sentient?

No, size does not dictate consciousness.

{I am not predicting that size dictates consciousness, but that "as above so below" we may be but micro organisms, part of a larger living being, celestial in nature. Similar to bacterial systems, with solarites as the body. **

If data can be stored as binary waves, are memories subject to the same conservation laws as energy? If so, then is there an argument for the continuance of consciousness?

Does that mean that I am merely the continuance of someone else's thoughts?

{ ..Or a continuance of your own? Pehaps DNA is also a map of consciousness and personality along with genetic information? **




*My notes bracketed in coloured text.

Cypress
05-31-07, 08:03 AM
There is a star named Betelgeuse?

santiago
05-31-07, 08:10 AM
There is a star named Betelgeuse?

Say that three times.

Serendipper
05-31-07, 08:19 AM
There is a star named Betelgeuse?


Yes.

Cypress
05-31-07, 08:24 AM
Say that three times.


I've seen this trick. Do not want.

polara426sh
05-31-07, 08:25 AM
I am not predicting that size dictates consciousness, but that "as above so below" we may be but micro organisms, part of a larger living being, celestial in nature. Similar to bacterial systems, with solarites as the body.
We are as but a virus traveling through the bloodstream of a giant.


Or a continuance of your own? Pehaps DNA is also a map of consciousness and personality along with genetic information?
With the birthrate being greater than the death rate would there not be "blank slates" being born every day?

jsharr
05-31-07, 08:31 AM
So the satellite radio company that employs Howard Stern is bigger than our sun? Where do they office?

Eboo
05-31-07, 08:31 AM
I've seen this trick. Do not want.


http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c376/Silver_R_Wolfe/donotwant.gif

Serendipper
05-31-07, 08:33 AM
With the birthrate being greater than the death rate would there not be "blank slates" being born every day?

"Blank slates" no. Copies with variations for propogation based on the success rate of redundancy? Sure, why not?

Mo'Phat
05-31-07, 08:42 AM
Discuss:

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/Serendipper/5xj55pz.jpg


HA HA!!!

Pluto's not a planet, n000b!!!lol!

Serendipper
05-31-07, 08:45 AM
HA HA!!!

Pluto's not a planet, n000b!!!lol!


Ummm...hellooo "Death Star"..."Arcturus"...Beuller? Anyone?


Get some coffee, Mo....these early morning lectures are hell without coffee first!:)

Cypress
05-31-07, 08:46 AM
lol x 2

polara426sh
05-31-07, 08:51 AM
"Blank slates" no. Copies with variations for propogation based on the success rate of redundancy? Sure, why not?
So how many generations back would this go? All the way to the origin of species, if so Darwin would be proud.:D

DrPete
05-31-07, 08:54 AM
I have to say I'm impressed. I don't even need to leave the confines of our own little planet to feel insignificant.

jsharr
05-31-07, 08:58 AM
Ummm...hellooo "Death Star"..."Arcturus"...Beuller? Anyone?


Get some coffee, Mo....these early morning lectures are hell without coffee first!:)
So you are saying that the Death Star blew up Arcturus and Ferris Beuller? Bummer, I liked Bueller. Arcuturus on the other hand, not so much.

Sort of like that band David & David and their hit "Welcome to BoomTown." David I like, David on the other hand, I don't like.
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r162/jsharr/37671.jpg

CyLowe97
05-31-07, 09:01 AM
Sort of like that band David & David and their hit "Welcome to BoomTown." David I like, David on the other hand, I don't like.
:lol:

Which half of Mr. Mister or Duran Duran did you like?

But seriously, check out some of David Baerwald's solo stuff if you like "Welcom to the Boomtown." He's a great singer/songwriter.

Serendipper
05-31-07, 09:01 AM
So you are saying that the Death Star blew up Arcturus and Ferris Beuller? Bummer, I liked Bueller. Arcuturus on the other hand, not so much.

Sort of like that band David & David and their hit "Welcome to BoomTown." David I like, David on the other hand, I don't like.


I would start over, but like most teachers that aspire to greatness, I'm just going to show the film again and fall asleep at my desk.

Mo'Phat
05-31-07, 09:02 AM
Ummm...hellooo "Death Star"..."Arcturus"...Beuller? Anyone?


Sorry, I don't watch Battlestar Galactica.



;)

Serendipper
05-31-07, 09:03 AM
Sorry, I don't watch Battlestar Galactica.



;)


:lol:

x136
05-31-07, 09:15 AM
I wonder why the YouTube uploader cut off the video when they did. There should be one more extreme zoom out after "Red Supergiant," revealing a mass labeled "Human Stupidity."

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." --Albert Einstein

jsharr
05-31-07, 09:21 AM
It actually said "Jsharr was here" on the zoom out and I asked them to cut before it got there.

Serendipper
05-31-07, 09:23 AM
I wonder why the YouTube uploader cut off the video when they did. There should be one more extreme zoom out after "Red Supergiant," revealing a mass labeled "Human Stupidity."

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." --Albert Einstein



Human mind cannot fathom.:p

KrisPistofferson
05-31-07, 11:40 AM
I've been trippin' out in the opposite direction because of this Anatomy and Physiology class I've been taking-Basically starts out with the chemical components of life and works its way up. Everything is really, really awesomely complex, and it boggles the mind how all this stuff can happen well enough to maintain life.

DrPete
05-31-07, 01:34 PM
I've been trippin' out in the opposite direction because of this Anatomy and Physiology class I've been taking-Basically starts out with the chemical components of life and works its way up. Everything is really, really awesomely complex, and it boggles the mind how all this stuff can happen well enough to maintain life.

Take an embryology course. You'll be totally amazed that any of us can ever come out normal. It's fascinating stuff.

KrisPistofferson
05-31-07, 02:28 PM
Take an embryology course. You'll be totally amazed that any of us can ever come out normal. It's fascinating stuff.I think I'll wade through A&P II and Microbiology first, thankyaverymuch. :) Actually, I really enjoy it, I've always loved biology.

Ritehsedad
05-31-07, 09:19 PM
It reminds me a bit of the Maine Solar System Model (http://www.umpi.maine.edu/info/nmms/solar/) up in northern Maine. Its very humbling seeing the size of the sun model compared to the earth model. The model stretches for 40 miles from the Sun to Pluto (Pluto is the size of a marble).

iamlucky13
05-31-07, 09:55 PM
...compared to the size and glory of the universe!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ptdbNUtpx4

You need to enlarge film to fully comprehend.

Puts thing is perspective, now doesn't it?;)


Whoa...80's flashback. The music is the overture from The Black Hole.

I like this one better:

http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/

You can zoom in from 10 million light years away all the way up to the nucleus of an atom. If you compare it with Serendipper's link, it's even more astounding. At 100,000 light years (3 zoom clicks), even the largest star from that video is still indistinguishable.

Serendipper
05-31-07, 09:57 PM
The giant star Arcturus visible in the sky right now, along with the full moon, Venus, and (faintly) Mars.


Amazing.

KrisPistofferson
05-31-07, 10:14 PM
"What is this, what have we here, Handlebars, I don't need to steer."

KingTermite
05-31-07, 11:21 PM
...compared to the size and glory of the universe!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ptdbNUtpx4

You need to enlarge film to fully comprehend.

Puts thing is perspective, now doesn't it?;)
Wow....I feel so insignificant now.

Maybe this is another video to put it all into perspective.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmeSBUPswM

KingTermite
05-31-07, 11:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JSR_6qfXTg

"So remember when you're feeling very small and insecure
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space
'cause there's bugger all down here on Earth."

---Monty Python

:D
Damn! Somebody beat me to it.