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Bikepacker67
05-31-07, 10:25 AM
Sometimes it blows my mind that we share the planet with people like the XDR-TB (http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/notes/2006/np23/en/index.html) infected lawyer from Atlanta who KNOWINGLY put 100's (maybe 1000's) of people at direct risk of infection, simply because he wanted to go on his G.D. honeymoon.

I hope his new bride realizes that she just married a world class pr1ck.

Ohh, and how does sociopath describe himself?


“I’m a very well-educated, successful, intelligent person,” (http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977015202)


jsharr
05-31-07, 10:27 AM
hopefully as a payback he will catch some sort of drug resisant disease.;)

Cypress
05-31-07, 10:28 AM
One person I would NEVER piss off is a newly married woman.


Bikepacker67
05-31-07, 10:29 AM
One person I would NEVER piss off is a newly married woman.

F her.
She knew he had it, too.

Flippin Sweet
05-31-07, 10:31 AM
F her.
She knew he had it, too.
Yeah, if I were her, I'D have locked his ass up first.

DrPete
05-31-07, 10:31 AM
And if anyone has a great chance of getting it, it's the wife.

Serendipper
05-31-07, 10:32 AM
F her.
She knew he had it, too.


I guess the missus was scarier than TB!:eek:

Bikepacker67
05-31-07, 10:33 AM
Andrew Speaker is the pr1ck's name.
Just released.

Bikepacker67
05-31-07, 10:37 AM
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3288/andrewspeakerph6.jpg

Cypress
05-31-07, 10:39 AM
He looks like a missionary.

Bikepacker67
05-31-07, 10:40 AM
And if anyone has a great chance of getting it, it's the wife.

And the poor shlubs who sat next to him for an 8+ hour trans-Atlantic flight.
Everyone on those planes is going to have a very disconcerting 1 to 2 years of not knowing if they have this deadly disease.

powerglide
05-31-07, 10:40 AM
I was about to say the same thing!!! This a-hole should be sued by everyone on the plane.
what a selfish jerk...I'd stomp his ass if he did that to my family

QUOTE:
Speaker knew he had TB when he flew from Atlanta to Europe for his wedding and honeymoon, but he didn't find out until he was already there that it was an extensively drug-resistant strain considered especially dangerous.

Despite warning from federal health officials not to board another long flight, Speaker flew home for treatment.
END QUOTE:

What a d1ck

Bikepacker67
05-31-07, 10:41 AM
He looks like a missionary.

That's morbidly hilarious.

Velo Vol
05-31-07, 10:50 AM
I'm not sure we know both sides to the story here. Plus it sounds like the news media is in scare-hype mode.

AllenG
05-31-07, 10:54 AM
And the poor shlubs who sat next to him for an 8+ hour trans-Atlantic flight.
Everyone on those planes is going to have a very disconcerting 1 to 2 years of not knowing if they have this deadly disease.
I saw an interview with someone who sat near patient zero. Said people backed up from him when he told his coworkers what happened. I would have walked out of the office at that instance and never come back.

"How was your vacation?"
"Oh I may have been infected with highly drug resistance TB, yours?"

I agree, patient zero is an unmitigated jackass. One of his quotes I saw on ABC last night, (paraphrased) "I did everything the CDC told me, except not travel or stay in isolation when they found out I was in Italy".

Bikepacker67
05-31-07, 10:57 AM
I'm not sure we know both sides to the story here. Plus it sounds like the news media is in scare-hype mode.


I just listened to an press conference with one of the fed docs that contacted this man prior to his trip and they had told him all the reasons why he should NOT fly.

Then, when they found out it was XDR form, they contacted him in Italy and directed him to turn himself in, and told him to ABSOLUTELY not fly again, and why it could precipitate the deaths of many people, and the pr1ck couldn't of cared less.

What other side is there?

Pheard
05-31-07, 11:10 AM
He looks like a missionary.
How come someone in a suit all of a sudden looks like a missionary?

Have you never seen regular people wear suits?

Cypress
05-31-07, 11:24 AM
How come someone in a suit all of a sudden looks like a missionary?




It's the hair, the slightly sunburned face, and the confounded look on his face.


You don't agree?

mlts22
05-31-07, 11:35 AM
If he infects other people, his deliberate actions may cost lives. Arsonists who kill people in the fires they set are responsible for the deaths they cause; this guy should be held accountable if there is a TB spread.

However, I don't have all the facts... the press is in fearmongering mode, so I have no clue what the real story is.

ModoVincere
05-31-07, 11:38 AM
I would sue him and try to get him to pay any and all medical bills associated with checking/treatment for TB or related conditions.

KrisPistofferson
05-31-07, 11:52 AM
It's the hair, the slightly sunburned face, and the confounded look on his face.

They also preach to people in over-populated countries about the evils of condom usage, so they probably are on the same page about communicable diseases.

catatonic
05-31-07, 12:15 PM
I think this guy needs to be bathed in a bath that is saturated to the limits with the fungus that cuases athlete's foot/jock itch/etc, then kept in isolation day after day with only a daily shower (clean water, but no towel...lat that fungus thrive!).

Keep this up for a few months....if he hasn't scratched himself to the bones, he will probably understand how bad it sucks to be force-infected like he just possibly did to others.

monogodo
05-31-07, 12:38 PM
Sometimes it blows my mind that we share the planet with people like the XDR-TB (http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/notes/2006/np23/en/index.html) infected lawyer from Atlanta who KNOWINGLY put 100's (maybe 1000's) of people at direct risk of infection, simply because he wanted to go on his G.D. honeymoon.

I hope his new bride realizes that she just married a world class pr1ck.

Ohh, and how does sociopath describe himself?


“I’m a very well-educated, successful, intelligent person,” (http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977015202)
He's a lawyer. I'm sure she knew he was a lawyer when she agreed to marry him, therefore she knows he's a world class pr1ck.

Velo Vol
05-31-07, 12:42 PM
I would sue him and try to get him to pay any and all medical bills associated with checking/treatment for TB or related conditions.
You might have something there.

As far as what I wrote earlier, I'm sure all the health agency people are in full CYA mode and are thus trying to pin the blame on this guy when their system obviously broke down.

Morover, I'm not a TB expert (like everyone has suddenly become) but it seems to me the media's "we're all going to die" coverage is just the latest example of catastrophe overkill.

Seriously, how is this guy any more deserving of national scorn than anyone who drives home after too many drinks? Both are putting innocent lives at risk.

jsharr
05-31-07, 12:43 PM
I think that the airlines involved should contact everyone on either of those flights and give every passenger, flight crew member, etc. who was on the plane this guys contact info and a list of lawyers to contact to sue him.

Tom Stormcrowe
05-31-07, 12:46 PM
You might have something there.

As far as what I wrote earlier, I'm sure all the health agency people are in full CYA mode and are thus trying to pin the blame on this guy when their system obviously broke down.

Morover, I'm not a TB expert (like everyone has suddenly become) but it seems to me the media's "we're all going to die" coverage is just the latest example of catastrophe overkill.

Seriously, how is this guy any more deserving of national scorn than anyone who drives home after too many drinks? Both are putting innocent lives at risk.
Because exposure to a drunk driver isn't contagious and can't spread by aerosolization and coughing in a recycled air situation like an airliner.

barba
05-31-07, 12:52 PM
I think that the airlines involved should contact everyone on either of those flights and give every passenger, flight crew member, etc. who was on the plane this guys contact info and a list of lawyers to contact to sue him.

I read that his TB only has a 30% cure rate. Suing him may be beside the point.

jsharr
05-31-07, 12:57 PM
I read that his TB only has a 30% cure rate. Suing him may be beside the point.
at least it would make his last days on this earth more uncomfortable, esp. if he passed along the disease to anyone else just so he could go on honeymoon in europe. I think wherever he was honeymooning should to the same for all the other quests that stayed there while he was there as well. Assuming he was in a public hotel or resort.

AllenG
05-31-07, 01:13 PM
Seriously, how is this guy any more deserving of national scorn than anyone who drives home after too many drinks? Both are putting innocent lives at risk.
DUI is not a contagious, multi drug resistant disease with a 50% mortality rate.

Velo Vol
05-31-07, 01:45 PM
Drunk driving kills thousands of people a year; passengers carrying TB on airplanes don't.

Let's see if someone else actually contracts the disease before we publicly behead this guy, OK?

kidcharlamagne
05-31-07, 01:48 PM
Drunk driving kills thousands of people a year; passengers carrying TB on airplanes don't.

Let's see if someone else actually contracts the disease before we publicly behead this guy, OK?

Certainly, and we’ll wait until the drunk driver kills someone before reacting as well

Velo Vol
05-31-07, 01:50 PM
Certainly, and we’ll wait until the drunk driver kills someone before reacting as well
You miss the point. Both the drunk driver and the TB passenger behave stupidly. But only the latter is being crucified in the national media (and here).

kidcharlamagne
05-31-07, 02:03 PM
You miss the point. Both the drunk driver and the TB passenger behave stupidly. But only the latter is being crucified in the national media (and here).

I’ve never seen an article about dui that paints the person in a positive light, regardless if anyone was actually hurt by the driver’s actions. The drunk driver makes a selfish decision that can hurt any number of folks. The fact that they make the decision is cause enough for punishment, it doesn’t matter if anyone gets hurt or not. That’s how it goes when you live in a society. I don’t see how this is any different.

Bikepacker67
05-31-07, 02:59 PM
You miss the point. Both the drunk driver and the TB passenger behave stupidly. But only the latter is being crucified in the national media (and here).


No. I think you miss the point.
A drunk driver can't start an epidemic that could lead to the illness and death of 1000's.

But I suspect you're just playing contrarian.

donnamb
05-31-07, 09:41 PM
A drunk driver can't start an epidemic that could lead to the illness and death of 1000's.
And thus Bikepacker gets to the heart of the matter. Of course it doesn't help any that our public health system has had its teeth pretty much removed. :(

Flippin Sweet
05-31-07, 10:16 PM
If we can't catch the TB spread, how in Chuck's name are we going to stop the Zombie Virus Epidemic, hmmmm???? Answer me that.

SingingSabre
05-31-07, 10:42 PM
If we can't catch the TB spread, how in Chuck's name are we going to stop the Zombie Virus Epidemic, hmmmm???? Answer me that.

Hey, I'll answer that in a few. First, let me answer the door. Somebody keeps knocking, well, scraping at it, really. They keep muttering something about brains.

Brb!

jyossarian
05-31-07, 11:00 PM
"I'm a very well-educated, successful, intelligent person," he told the Journal-Constitution. "This is insane to me that I have an armed guard outside my door when I've cooperated with everything other than the whole solitary-confinement-in-Italy thing."
What's insane is that he wasn't shot on sight for being an egotistical, self-centered jackass.


Along the border crossing at Champlain, N.Y., an inspector ran Speaker's passport through a computer, and a warning — including instructions to hold the traveler, don a protective mask in dealing with him, and telephone health authorities — popped up, officials said.

About a minute later, Speaker was instead cleared to continue on his journey, according to officials familiar with the records.
I guess since he wasn't carrying a ton of marijuana with him, there was no point in doing their freaking job. Idiots.

wfin2004
06-01-07, 05:19 AM
The clown knew he could not fly back to the states because he was on the "No fly list". So he flew back to the US via Canada and drove back heer!


Total A$h0IE

Bikepacker67
06-01-07, 07:02 AM
I just listened to his father speak of how the media is blowing this all out of proportion.

What a pantload.

If nothing else, Speaker was WELL AWARE that he had XDR-TB when the CDC contacted him in Italy, and told him UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE to fly.
But what does the b@stard do?
He evades authorities and 'sneaks' back home, putting 100's at risk.

ASSH0LE.

blonduathlongrl
06-01-07, 07:05 AM
I watched him on GMA this morning, trying to get out of all this, saying he was assured by the docs that he wasnt contagious, then he contradics himself later saying the docs told him they would prefer if he didnt fly.
He was crying trying to play the pitty card.

Bikepacker67
06-01-07, 07:22 AM
The real problem is, we need to update our laws regarding contagious diseases, and the responsibilities of those infected.

Ya know, folks of a certain political stripe will harangue about illegal immigrants bringing in all manner of communicable infections, but I bet that globe-trotting Westerners are a larger vector than we might guess.