Foo - Surely these cannot be typical contrails...

http://www.carnicom.com/abq1.jpg
http://www.carnicom.com/abq2.jpg
http://www.carnicom.com/abq3.jpg
http://www.carnicom.com/abq4.jpg
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Darn chemtrails I say:mad:

They look pretty typical to me

Err, is this a joke?

Nope, that's pretty normal. It's called a consistent spreading type of contrail.

http://asd-www.larc.nasa.gov/GLOBE/science.html

The contrail basically acts as the starting point of vapor condensation. Contrails normally form in relatively moist air. The consistent spreading type has to be very close to saturation, however.

Consider this, if it were government chemicals, it would need to have a continuous source to do what you're suggesting. The thickness of the cloud should decrease as it spreads out, not increase, unless it were coming out of nowhere. But it's just water vapor that's already there and transparent condensing into tiny water droplets that can be seen.

Also, I won't do the math right now, but I'm pretty sure the mass of sufficient chemicals to make a trail that big would be impossible to fit in an airplane.

^he flys jets, I don't, take his word for it.

Oh they're chemicals alright. It's actually a mind control drug that the CIA is working on. I would stay away from bookstores if I were you.

Don your tinfoil hat now EJ and then duck and cover, or stop drop and roll.

I thought contrails to be this:

http://www.perthobservatory.wa.gov.au/graphics/contrail1.jpg

this is like tinfoil hat stuff from indymedia

it all depends on atmospheric moisture conditions and wind patterns and so on. so don't freak out...

:)

that's a little higher in the atmosphere :rolleyes:

What about communties and cities finding a grayish dust covering their plants and ground making people violently sick. Many strange contrails have been reported during these events.

What about communties and cities finding a grayish dust covering their plants and ground making people violently sick. Many strange contrails have been reported during these events.
What, like Chernobyl?

it's all one big conspiracy man...just like fluoride being placed in the water to keep populations docile and dumb :D :rolleyes:

What about communties and cities finding a grayish dust covering their plants and ground making people violently sick. Many strange contrails have been reported during these events.


Have you givin up on your UFO theories already?:(

It's subliminal advertising for the X-Games.

Have you givin up on your UFO theories already?:(
Even if I tried, there's too many reportings and sightnings by pilots, and drivers, ect:)

What about the billions of people who don't report anything? Seriously... you need to stop paying so much attention to conspiracy theories.

Suspiciously, they're too reoccuring.

What about the billions of people who don't report anything? Seriously... you need to stop paying so much attention to conspiracy theories.

This is important to consider. Chemtrail conspiracies are what as known as grand conspiracies. There comes a point when there are just too many people who would know the truth that also are remaining silent that it is just improbable not one of them would spill the beans. Grand conspiracies require so many additional assumptions that they essentially collapse under their own weight.

What about communties and cities finding a grayish dust covering their plants and ground making people violently sick. Many strange contrails have been reported during these events.

I haven't seen any credible reports of such phenomenon that didn't coincide with pollen season. Almost of the claims are third-hand from people who refuse to be identified, and I've seen absolutely zero formal study.

Funny...I was just googling around for a little more info and found a claim that "chemtrails" didn't exist before 1999. This picture is from Strategic Air Command starring Jimmy Stewart, which was released in 1955.

http://www.7bwb-36assn.org/clip123.jpg

"Chemtrails" are mentioned in House Bill HR 2977,[6] the Space Preservation Act of 2001, introduced by Congressman Dennis Kucinich, where it appears as one of a list of "exotic weapons system[s]" to be banned under the bill. Chemtrail conspiracy theorists point to this as official acknowledgment of the possibility, at least, of such weapons systems. The entire list of exotic weapons was omitted from later versions of the bill."


Well, there you go... proof positive.

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3526/i20want20to20believe20sww8.jpg

THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE

HOLY CRAP! Those contrails are actually spreading dihydrogen monoxide! You need to be worried, DHMO is seriously evil stuff.

http://www.dhmo.org/

We're doomed. :(

Hey, EJ, I've got a new title for you: "Bike Forums Head Conspiracy Theorist".

And those contrails look perfectly normal, by the way.

Ok, I admit it, it's from aliens, happy now?
http://www.weirdparanormal.com/zPicture2alien.gif

http://www.disclosureproject.org/

"Even Presidents have been left out of the loop, deliberately deceived, and denied access" is a convenient way of saying "We have absolutely no solid evidence for this stuff". How do these people know stuff that even the president is kept unaware of, and how do they know whether the president was briefed? I'm sorry, but I fail to see the hard evidence on that webpage. Just lots of bold claims and generalizations, lots of hand waving to say "well, there's all these examples out there". Show us the best single examples. Document them. Open them to detailed scrutiny. Then maybe there's something there.

By the way, I find the following especially humorous. "A clear and on-going threat to the national security and world peace has arisen because of unauthorized covert actions that have led to the targeting and downing of these extraterrestrial vehicles and to related covert plans to weaponize space." (emphasis mine) You really think that a civilization that has the capability to cross interstellar space would have any concern about our puny offensive capabilities?

Dennis Kucinich, oh yes. Last seen over Highway 375 near Rachel, Nevada.

EJ123,

FWIW, the photo looks like it was taken with a polarizing filter, or with the 'Chroma' cranked up if it is a still taken from a video.

Either of these things will make something like this really stand out.

The cool thing about corn-spiracy theories is that they have a built-in defense. If you come up with any proof, theory, or evidence to the contrary, the automatic response is "you're just part of the conspiracy." It's irrefutable.

Also, conspiracy theorists often either fail to understand, or do not accept the validity of, the scientific method, so no refutation based on science will satisfy them.

If you want to see some real howlers, Google glyph in association with chemtrail. Apparently, and this is on the internet so it must be true, if a cloud is shaped like an animal then is really is an animal. These ancient ethereal beings called glyphs take the form of clouds shaped like ducks and bats, and cleanse the skies of those evil chemtrails (see note 1 below).

Notes:
Note 1: BAAAH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.

Suspiciously, they're too reoccuring.

Yup, every time a plane flies overhead, a new conspiracy is born.

It's turning to epidemic proportions:eek:

Dennis Kucinich, oh yes. Last seen over Highway 375 near Rachel, Nevada.

Just because a legislator includes something in a bill doesn't make it true. Dennis probably got $100 and a free massage from the Chemtrail Coalition of America to leave chemtrails on that list.

It reminds me of the most recent bit of gun legislation--one of the line items was a ban on weapons with barrel shrouds, and the sponsor of the bill didn't know what a barrel shroud was. Since then I've realized that writing a bill about something doesn't prove that the sponsor has any idea what they're talking about.

Sputnik!!!!!

Ok, I admit it, it's from aliens, happy now?
http://www.weirdparanormal.com/zPicture2alien.gif

Who stole my picture?

it's all one big conspiracy man...just like fluoride being placed in the water to keep populations docile and dumb


Except that one clearly worked.