The final proof looks sweet. :)

Sizing samples should be arriving today.

If you need to try on a size please try to do it before the weekend or maybe Saturday evening.
The rest of the time I'll be busy with work, getting ready to go to Omaha, and my 10 year wedding anniversary.

PM me with time you can come to San Bruno (or when and where you'd like to meet half-way, I may be able to accommodate).

Keep me on the list for if you ever do a re-order since I missed this time around...

Keep me on the list for if you ever do a re-order since I missed this time around...

There's still time to order if you want. I'll PM you with how to submit payment.

ARGH! So freaking FedEx drove the package around for 13 hours!

Jun 20, 2007 8:16 PM Delivery exception SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO, CA No attempt made, next delivery scheduled for next business day
Jun 20, 2007 6:54 AM On FedEx vehicle SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO, CA Out for delivery

Fedex sucks. :rolleyes:

luv it when Tiff talks dirty....http://www.pacfit.com/roflmao.gif

luv it when Tiff talks dirty....http://www.pacfit.com/roflmao.gif

:roflmao: Oh that's nothin' John.... :eek: :p

luv it when Tiff talks dirty....http://www.pacfit.com/roflmao.gif

uhm... excuse me mister???? Where the heck were you last saturday???? Now to make it up to us, you have to come ride the Giro....

okay, sorry for the thread hijack!

trac...I figured you were just ignoring me as punishment...

trac...I figured you were just ignoring me as punishment...

no way ;) I would never ignore you :D It was a beautiful ride and you should do it next year!!!!! Now... you and your wife need to go sign up for the Giro....

anyway...swerving back to the topic at hand....didn't meant to hijack myself, but I really need a new jersey and since I ordered one of the norcal jerseys....can't wait to get it!

ARGH! ARGH! Excercise in frustration. So after I saw last night's tracking update, I called FedEx to request the package be held at the SSF station so I can pick it up in the morning.

Here's what I woke up to (of course they changed the Estimated Delivery Date from 6/20 to 6/21):
Notice the package took a little jog up to Sacramento in the middle of the night.
http://blastradius.home.mindspring.com/fedex-screen-cap.jpg

So for anyone that wants to try the sizing samples, here is my schedule:

6/21 Thu - Receive samples (hopefully). If delivered, available till 6:30pm. 10th anniversary dinner tonight. :D
6/22 Fri - Available to sample till 2pm. After 2pm I'll working for a church function till 11pm.
6/23 Sat - Available AM till noon. Daughters' dance recital. Available at night.
6/24 Sun - Unavailable all day. Church till 11am. Work picnic. Leave for Omaha in the evening.

That doesn't leave much time, however, if anyone wants to take the samples, meet with folks, and ship the samples back by next Thursday, I'd appreciate it. Let me knnow.

Henry

I have the sizing samples in hand.
I actually met up with the FedEX dude while he was en route instead of waiting for him to deliver it to me.
PM me to work out a time.

Sizes:
club cut: M
race cut: XS,S,M,L
women: S,M
shorts: M

congrats on your anniversary

congrats on your anniversary

Thanks. 10 years have gone by very quickly.

Sizing Samples.

Women, S, 16.5in armpit-to-armpit, 20in neck to bottom
http://blastradius.home.mindspring.com/women-S-16.5x20.jpg

Women, M, 18.5 x 20
http://blastradius.home.mindspring.com/women-M-18.5x20.jpg

Club, M, 20 x 23
http://blastradius.home.mindspring.com/club-M-20x23.jpg

Race, XS, 16.5 x 19.5
http://blastradius.home.mindspring.com/race-XS-16.5x19.5.jpg

Race, S, 18 x 20.5
http://blastradius.home.mindspring.com/race-S-18x20.5.jpg

Race, M, 19.5 x 21
http://blastradius.home.mindspring.com/race-M-19.5x21.jpg

Race, L, 20 x 21
http://blastradius.home.mindspring.com/race-L-20x21.jpg

congrats on your anniversary.
Thanks. 10 years have gone by very quickly.

Nice Blast!! Congrats!! Mine 10 year is in a month, 5 days, amazing how time flies.. Must be having fun..

Mmm... I wonder how tight should a race jersey fit? Looks like I have been wearing "S" and there's still a little bit of space left - should I go for XS? (Should a race jersey as tight as sticking to the skin?) Thanks :-)

Enoch,
I did notice how loose your jersey was. Still worth it for a classic jersey.
I think the XS would be a better fit for you. I fit the XS but the S also fits with only a few "flappy" locations (back of the shoulders for example). With the white sizing samples, my "high beams" were really noticeable :eek:

Nice Blast!! Congrats!! Mine 10 year is in a month, 5 days, amazing how time flies.. Must be having fun..

Thanks Brian, it sure has been fun. How can four kids not be fun? :D

No Problemo! I will go for XS then.:D

<Sneaking back to work on my essays... Grrr...>

Enoch,
I did notice how loose your jersey was. Still worth it for a classic jersey.
I think the XS would be a better fit for you. I fit the XS but the S also fits with only a few "flappy" locations (back of the shoulders for example). With the white sizing samples, my "high beams" were really noticeable :eek:

lok & Blast, what are your hts and chest circ? Are y'all opting for the against the skin feel vs. the flappy bits in the wind?

Congrats on the anniversary! I don't think I'll be able to come before the weekend :( any chance to do it next week?

Still got time for one more? If not put me on the list for next time.

Congrats on 10 years!

lok & Blast, what are your hts and chest circ? Are y'all opting for the against the skin feel vs. the flappy bits in the wind?

I'm 5' 5" and 35" chest. The XS is pretty tight on me and the S is mostly tight with some flappy bits.
My Pearl Izumi size S jersey feels bigger than the Champ-Sys "S".
My Bergamo size S jerseys fit somewhere in between the Pearl Izumi "S" and the Champ-Sys "XS".
I'm leaning toward the XS, just in case it stretches some.
I don't want flappy bits but we'll see.

Still got time for one more? If not put me on the list for next time.

Congrats on 10 years!

Thanks,
It's not too late. I won't submit the order until a few more people get to try the samples.
I'll PM you details.
Henry

Hi NoCal, Im in tx. Uh oh I'm in trouble now.

My Pearl Izumi size S jersey feels bigger than the Champ-Sys "S".


Blast, thanks a lot for your feedback; you and I are similarly proportioned and wear some of the same kit; one of my jerseys is also an PI S and I know there are flappy bits around the shoulder in certain positions. I have another one that's a Giordana S that seems a little smaller than the PI, and it's also comfortable. It would appear that the CS jersey sizing runs a little smaller for the same size compared with other mfrs, which is not a bad thing. I guess your main consideration is whether you plan on adding more weight in the future. ;) --> Congrats also on the 10th anniv; have you upheld your end of the bargain by gaining 1 lb for every year? :p

;) If I bend and stretch and contort, I might be able to work part of one hand into a PI small jersey. Those look like doll clothes to me. ;)

Blast, thanks a lot for your feedback; you and I are similarly proportioned and wear some of the same kit; one of my jerseys is also an PI S and I know there are flappy bits around the shoulder in certain positions. I have another one that's a Giordana S that seems a little smaller than the PI, and it's also comfortable. It would appear that the CS jersey sizing runs a little smaller for the same size compared with other mfrs, which is not a bad thing. I guess your main consideration is whether you plan on adding more weight in the future. ;) --> Congrats also on the 10th anniv; have you upheld your end of the bargain by gaining 1 lb for every year? :p

Uh Oh... I've _lost_ 1lb for each year! No wonder she gave me the evil eye when I asked her whether the S or XS fit better :eek:.

Only one more person to try the samples, then I will place the order.
We're up to 51 jerseys (OK 2 are childs ones for my daughters so 49 really) so it should be
a pretty big order for Champ-Sys. Cross your fingers that they give us speedier service for such
a big order. Please look over the tally sheet and make sure your sizing info and item count is correct.

http://blastradius.home.mindspring.com/order-tally-screen-cap.jpg

Blast,

Do you know the lead time for the order?

Henry....since there was time left .... I ordered a jersey for my husband as well. Size XL - Club Cut - Full Zipper. Thanks Asia.I sent the payment via paypal :)

Hmm. Since I can't come down to San Bruno to try it on, I'm a little nervous that my large race cut will fit.

So I'll just pose this to the others who've ordered L Race (crypticlineage, jimples, Pheard, SV Commuter, ScottMorrison, Sesame Crunch, et al.): what size do you wear in PI, Voler, or Biemme?

Hmm. Since I can't come down to San Bruno to try it on, I'm a little nervous that my large race cut will fit.

So I'll just pose this to the others who've ordered L Race (crypticlineage, jimples, Pheard, SV Commuter, ScottMorrison, Sesame Crunch, et al.): what size do you wear in PI, Voler, or Biemme?

Caloso - I tried the Large Race Cut and it was a bit tight in the shoulders for me. I don't have any PI jerseys but I do have a Large Adidas, Canondale, etc jersey and they fit snug but not as tight as the ChampSys felt. I was concerned that with a base layer underneath it would be really snug. So I changed mine to a Club Cut.

I tried on the Med club and it felt roomier in the shoulders. So I think the Large Club fit is better for me. Henry measured the jersey on a flat surface from armpit to armpit and I think the Large race was 20"(?) Maybe Henry can chime in...

Also for reference I have a 32" waist and the Large Race was a bit snug for my phat @ss.

Hopefully that helped a little.

I see there are others ordering XXL. Thank you God I am not the only clydesdale on this board.

Caloso - I tried the Large Race Cut and it was a bit tight in the shoulders for me. I don't have any PI jerseys but I do have a Large Adidas, Canondale, etc jersey and they fit snug but not as tight as the ChampSys felt. I was concerned that with a base layer underneath it would be really snug. So I changed mine to a Club Cut.

I tried on the Med club and it felt roomier in the shoulders. So I think the Large Club fit is better for me. Henry measured the jersey on a flat surface from armpit to armpit and I think the Large race was 20"(?) Maybe Henry can chime in...

Also for reference I have a 32" waist and the Large Race was a bit snug for my phat @ss.

Hopefully that helped a little.

Yes, this is extremely helpful. Especially since I have an equally phat @ss. :)

I see there are others ordering XXL. Thank you God I am not the only clydesdale on this board.

Definitely not the only one... ;)

Caloso - I tried the Large Race Cut and it was a bit tight in the shoulders for me. I don't have any PI jerseys but I do have a Large Adidas, Canondale, etc jersey and they fit snug but not as tight as the ChampSys felt. I was concerned that with a base layer underneath it would be really snug. So I changed mine to a Club Cut.

I tried on the Med club and it felt roomier in the shoulders. So I think the Large Club fit is better for me. Henry measured the jersey on a flat surface from armpit to armpit and I think the Large race was 20"(?) Maybe Henry can chime in...

Also for reference I have a 32" waist and the Large Race was a bit snug for my phat @ss.

Hopefully that helped a little.

Now you've got me worried. What's your chest measurement?

I ordered the large club cut. I wear a large club cut in Voler jerseys.

Hmm. Since I can't come down to San Bruno to try it on, I'm a little nervous that my large race cut will fit.

So I'll just pose this to the others who've ordered L Race (crypticlineage, jimples, Pheard, SV Commuter, ScottMorrison, Sesame Crunch, et al.): what size do you wear in PI, Voler, or Biemme?


I wear a Medium from Voler, and a Large from Champ-Sys.

Hmm. Since I can't come down to San Bruno to try it on, I'm a little nervous that my large race cut will fit.

So I'll just pose this to the others who've ordered L Race (crypticlineage, jimples, Pheard, SV Commuter, ScottMorrison, Sesame Crunch, et al.): what size do you wear in PI, Voler, or Biemme?
This is my first road bike jersey, sorry can't help you.

However, I did measure my chest, and I'm actually a medium. I was told the race cut was snugger so I went large in race cut.

Well, my only PI jersey is a club large and it fits fine. The Euro jerseys I have are 5 and 6.

Henry/BlastRadius: is it too late to change my order to Large Club?

Hmm. Since I can't come down to San Bruno to try it on, I'm a little nervous that my large race cut will fit.

So I'll just pose this to the others who've ordered L Race (crypticlineage, jimples, Pheard, SV Commuter, ScottMorrison, Sesame Crunch, et al.): what size do you wear in PI, Voler, or Biemme?

I wear a L in Nike, which doesn't say much as far as I know. I also know I have a 44" chest for jackets, so something that fits like a bike jersey with a 42" chest should be about right.

Caloso - I tried the Large Race Cut and it was a bit tight in the shoulders for me. I don't have any PI jerseys but I do have a Large Adidas, Canondale, etc jersey and they fit snug but not as tight as the ChampSys felt. I was concerned that with a base layer underneath it would be really snug. So I changed mine to a Club Cut.

I tried on the Med club and it felt roomier in the shoulders. So I think the Large Club fit is better for me. Henry measured the jersey on a flat surface from armpit to armpit and I think the Large race was 20"(?) Maybe Henry can chime in...

Also for reference I have a 32" waist and the Large Race was a bit snug for my phat @ss.

Hopefully that helped a little.

Gee3, you've got some big guns so I'd imagine most jersey's are a bit tighter for you :)

Caloso, I have a 35" chest, 29-30" waist, which should be an XS according to the sizing chart. However, the "S" fits me well too. I have a standard -5" drop (chest to waist difference) and would be and athletic fit in suit sizing terms. If you have a -3" or more drop, go for the race cut. Go with what the sizing chart recommends if you like it real snug. Go with one size larger if you like it snug but not real snug.
If you have -2" to +X" (bigger around the waist than chest) drop go with the club cut.

If you have a nicely fitting jersey, compare the armpit-to-armpit measurements of the samples I posted. Sorry I don't have more samples.

Well, my only PI jersey is a club large and it fits fine. The Euro jerseys I have are 5 and 6.

Henry/BlastRadius: is it too late to change my order to Large Club?

Done.

Gee3, you've got some big guns so I'd imagine most jersey's are a bit tighter for you :)

Caloso, I have a 35" chest, 29-30" waist, which should be an XS according to the sizing chart. However, the "S" fits me well too. I have a standard -5" drop (chest to waist difference) and would be and athletic fit in suit sizing terms. If you have a -3" or more drop, go for the race cut. Go with what the sizing chart recommends if you like it real snug. Go with one size larger if you like it snug but not real snug.
If you have -2" to +X" (bigger around the waist than chest) drop go with the club cut.

If you have a nicely fitting jersey, compare the armpit-to-armpit measurements of the samples I posted. Sorry I don't have more samples.

No, no. This is super helpful and I really appreciate it.

Okay, so I've actually measured: 42 chest, 33 waist (and fairly broad shoulders from swimming).

I guess then, the better fit would be an XL Race. Thanks!

Now you've got me worried. What's your chest measurement?

Sesame - I just measured and I have about a 40"-41" chest with my arms down to my sides.

EDIT: looks like I'm close in size to Caloso. I was thinking of getting an XL race cut but decided on the L club cut because I'm short at about 5'6". So we thought the XL might be too long for me. :)

Gary (short and stubby)