Electric Bikes - Electric Bike Gallery

We don't have a "Show us your e-bike" thread yet, so I'm starting one.

A Giant Lite with an XtraCycle kit.
http://homepage.mac.com/awcg/.Pictures/XtraLite/XL3.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/awcg/.Pictures/XtraLite/XL1.jpg

An Estelle
http://homepage.mac.com/awcg/.Pictures/Bike/Estelle/Estelle1.jpg

Allen,
Nice bikes! I've been admiring your Giant Lite Xtracycle for a while now. How does it handle the weight of grocery runs?
Z

It does quite well with groceries. The handling does change, the front end gets light and starting off can be tricky (once under way no problem) but only after I start loading 50 lbs bags of dog food on top.
This (http://homepage.mac.com/awcg/.Pictures/Bike/Commute1.jpg) load is normal for me.

Me eBike is a Gary Fisher x-Caliber model year 2001, you know... those Genesis frame bikes. Serves as a commuter and medium duty off-roader. Electric power is from a Bionx PL350 (350W , 36V Li-Ion).

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/Chris_Lanctot/E-Bike/f309.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/Chris_Lanctot/E-Bike/f05b.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/Chris_Lanctot/E-Bike/b8fe.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/Chris_Lanctot/E-Bike/a929.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/Chris_Lanctot/E-Bike/573e.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/Chris_Lanctot/E-Bike/205e.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/Chris_Lanctot/E-Bike/78d4.jpg

I was given an old electric scooter so I modified it and mounted it to a child hauling tandem trailer. This allows any bike to become an electric bike by just attaching the trailer to the seat post of the bike and attaching the throttle to the handlebar.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r154/n4zou/stokemonkey.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r154/n4zou/mounts.jpg

My Mom's new eBike:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/Zeuser/Electric%20Bike/sport.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/Zeuser/Electric%20Bike/sport003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/Zeuser/Electric%20Bike/sport005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/Zeuser/Electric%20Bike/sport006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/Zeuser/Electric%20Bike/sport010.jpg

Zeuser-

Your bike is very nice, quite similar to what I hope to have eventually. Now I can see that your speeds are more impressive on knobbies!

I have always wondered about the Bionx "battery in a rear bag" option. Could you please post more photos of it? Perhaps you could show the wiring connectors and electronics in the bag and how it attaches to the rack? Does you mother like this battery option?

Here is something i tossed together for thrills. Goes over 60mph and runs at 48v for about 2 hours. Really depends on how fast your going and such. heres a vid on google
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1416298129233098793&q=neukin (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1416298129233098793&q=neukin)


http://www.neukin.com/images/fastebike.jpg

nice i like it. but i think i would get pulled over down here. with that setup:D
my max speed was 56.4mph.

looks cool.

Here is something i tossed together for thrills. Goes over 60mph and runs at 48v for about 2 hours. Really depends on how fast your going and such. heres a vid on google
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1416298129233098793&q=neukin (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1416298129233098793&q=neukin)


http://www.neukin.com/images/fastebike.jpg

wow that is pretty cool!
would you show a drive side picture?
what kind of speed controller is that?
what is a half switch?
Thanks

its a currie system with a geared motor. with 24volt controller. it works with 48volts it gets warm but not hot.
i mounted controller on the outside of the bike.

the motor has lots of Torque if put the front brake on and lean forward i can spin the tire till it smokes. makes for a good laugh :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJqVRO5zUkA

http://www.electric-bikes.com/prodrive.htm#U.S.%20Pro-Drive%20Conversion%20Kit

http://www.electric-bikes.com/currie10.htm#currie17

Its direct drive so not much to see, wish i had gears. Its a golf cart controller.

56mph is pretty fast for the setup you have there. The motor i have on the bike is a perm motor good for about 6hp at 48v so if you could change gears lol well lets just guess. The motor is good for 72v but id need two more bats and a new controller. Cool to see other setups out there.

Its direct drive so not much to see, wish i had gears. Its a golf cart controller.

56mph is pretty fast for the setup you have there. The motor i have on the bike is a perm motor good for about 6hp at 48v so if you could change gears lol well lets just guess. The motor is good for 72v but id need two more bats and a new controller. Cool to see other setups out there.

Thanks, just wanted to see the front sprocket maybe it is locally found in my area, where can i get some more information on the motor (cost and who sells them)

This should be renamed "dangerously underbuilt electric motorcycle gallery" I mean WTF, perm132 over 20 times the legal limit... Gimmie a break that's not even remotely close to an electric bicycle.

This should be renamed "dangerously underbuilt electric motorcycle gallery" I mean WTF, perm132 over 20 times the legal limit... Gimmie a break that's not even remotely close to an electric bicycle.

Think of them in the context of Darwin's Theory Of Natural Selection.

This should be renamed "dangerously underbuilt electric motorcycle gallery" I mean WTF, perm132 over 20 times the legal limit... Gimmie a break that's not even remotely close to an electric bicycle.
No dude this **** is fantastic. Those are the guys who are pushing the high end of the technology and are doing it from their basements.

No dude this **** is fantastic. Those are the guys who are pushing the high end of the technology and are doing it from their basements.


For real.

Question: Why aren't there any manufacturers building motorcycles with engines capable of freeway speeds complete with braking and lighting systems to match?


Answer: The big three. The oil industry. GW.

This should be renamed "dangerously underbuilt electric motorcycle gallery" I mean WTF, perm132 over 20 times the legal limit... Gimmie a break that's not even remotely close to an electric bicycle.

Well this thread sure won't be renamed "Jean Coutu's rant against electric bikes" that's for sure. :rolleyes:
And I still see bicycles there, illegal as they may be, they sure don't qualify as "electric motorcycles" either!

How exactly have I ranted against electric bicycles? Have had one myself, the next one is in pretty much planned out and slowly coming together... I also sing their praises to whoever wants to listen... It would seem highly unlikely I'd be ranting against them.

But I'll defend them against presenting electric motorcycles as being electric bicycles so as to avoid things like registration and the extensive modifications they would need before being allowed on roads. A half assed motorcycle does not an electric bicycle make... There are different terms used to describe different categories of vehicles, and when one starts calling pretty much anything a bicycle, it goes against the purpose of having different names to describe these realities. It's about as absurd as calling every fruit a banana. Allow me to demonstrate:

The Jackalope is slower then that Perm132 last "electric bicycle" in this thread. It also has no usable pedals, but then we've already established that it's fine if It "assists" the energy input used to turn the throttle! Hey, looks like it's got everything to make it an "electric bicycle"! One that eats up 50cc limited speed motorcycles too! Joy! Motorcyclez suckz0rz!

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/files/front_left_full_790_479.jpg

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/files/full_left_166_821.jpg



Or how about this "electric bicycle", home made & all, it's driven by an Etek that's even less powerful then the Perm132 powered "electric bicycle" earlier in this thread, nor does it have vestigial pedals etc... But hey since the last ones were fine as "electric bicycles" and this one's even slower, then surely it's one too! Yeah, take that big oil! "Electric bicycles" FTW!

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/files/img_0977_124.jpg

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/files/img_0976_312.jpg



Electric motorcycles have poor range and are expensive to purchase, they also cost more then a conventional motorcycle to keep running. Yes, you can get a converted electric motorcycle from some shops, EG: http://www.electricmotorsport.com/ But my guess it big players won't waste their time with that since few people would be interested to buy one... Peugeot tried their hand with the Scoot'elec, and ate dirt...



So here's another home grown "electric bicycle"! Lithium-iron powered, bleeding edge experimental technology as showed off at make faire. Again fits in all requirements to be thought of as an "electric bicycle"! Yay! These guys are really advancing "electric bicycle" technology for sure!

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/files/img_1571_422.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q133/Stevil_Knevil/MakerFaire2007/RubberRoast.jpg



Afteral, only losers get their home built electric motorcycles registered, smart people just ride their vehicle illegally so they don't have to go through that pesky registration, calling it an "electric bicycle" with a wink, until they get ebikes outlawed where they live (re: Randy/Maui) or get a criminal citation for it (Matt in Florida)...



But seriously, none of these are even close to being electric bicycles, there's little chance of registering them as mopeds either, and most blow by limited speed motorcycle territory...

Here is something i tossed together for thrills. Goes over 60mph and runs at 48v for about 2 hours. Really depends on how fast your going and such. heres a vid on google
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1416298129233098793&q=neukin (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1416298129233098793&q=neukin)


That's quite a screamer. You may need a motorcycle helmet at those speeds.

It's blurring the lines between an electric bike and an electric motorcycle (with pedal assist). To me an e-bike is a human and electric hybrid bike where the human portion can contribute at least 20-25% of the power (enough to make a significant impact). But everybody has different ideas on where an ebike stops becoming a bicycle.

Over three fold the legal speed max... No human input...


Look! Bananas!

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x25/coutujean/234460c9.jpg

Well this thread sure won't be renamed "Jean Coutu's rant against electric bikes" that's for sure. :rolleyes:
And I still see bicycles there, illegal as they may be, they sure don't qualify as "electric motorcycles" either!

That is not a bicycle in post 8.

The last photo in post 19 makes my eyes hurt. The proud genius that put what looks to be at least 100lbs or more of lithium-based batteries on a motorcycle, then proceeds to do a donut has really done much to advance this technology for the rest of us.

Hey, the last two of the three bikes I've shown are honest road legal motorcycles that are registered and all that, sorry to have mislead but they're not calling them ebikes. The first one is for off road use only, but the builder called it a motorcycle.




But I've seen too many vehicles such as this "ebike" who's owner brags of going 46mph on flat land:

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/files/new_paint_108.jpg



Or how about this genius, who brags of reaching over 100kph on his "electric bicycle".

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4197/imgp7058rw0.jpg



Note how he rides his "bicycle" with motorcyclists rather then with bicyclists...
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2345563547099214781



That's just crying out loud to get electric bicycles outlawed.



OK, I shall end my rant now...

To a certain member that has concerns about freedom to express his opinions:

We are all free to speak (post) our minds here, as long as it's within the spirit of the guidelines. I would hate for someone to tell me to go get stuffed, but worse, I would be disappointed if they were afraid to simply let me know that they don't agree with my viewpoint.

Looking at some of the photos posted here, I'm not seeing what I would consider to be a genuine solution for cyclists that find the need for a secondary power source. But I do see some dangerous and illegal creations. I'd certainly be interested in seeing some more practical ebike solutions though.

My Giant Cypress was pretty ugly from the get-go.
http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/pic/?o=QzzM&pic_id=181029&v=L&size=large

I added a Wilderness Energy brushless hub and 36volts (my voltometer says 40) of NiCad power. Top speed about 35 km/hr.

Just posting the bicycle that now uses electric power.. sounds like a ebike to me. Ill try to be more boring for you next time jeancoutu. Are those your bikes, or just pulling pics off the internet... thought is was a ebike gallery for bikeforum users, the starter posted (("We don't have a "Show us your e-bike" thread yet" )) I guess i could pull a bunch of pics off the internet too but that wouldnt be fun.

Here is my first one, used a honda starter... didnt last too long since the motor was for short term use but it pulled lol.

The goal on the new bike that i already posted is to hook a generator on it that charges another bank of batteries while you use the first bank. Its a real efficient setup so i hope the range to be ungodly. Its always safe to have more power. so you can use it when needed... say a dog, or car on your butt, or to chase someone that ran you off the road so you have time to get a plate. beats me.

http://www.neukin.com/images/hondabike.jpg

In response to the post that none of you can see, please accept my apologies. I spend too much time on the forums having to deal with unpleasantries. You guys are all a bit thin-skinned, in a nice way. That is to say that you're a rather polite bunch.

I shall try to remember that I don't recall seeing any of you post in P&R, SS/Fixie, or BMX, and that there have been no reported posts from the ebike forum.

Again, I apologize.

Brian

Just thought I'd update the picture of my bike that someone else was so nice to post here:

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/3925/imgp7270ju5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Here is something i tossed together for thrills. Goes over 60mph and runs at 48v for about 2 hours. Really depends on how fast your going and such. heres a vid on google
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1416298129233098793&q=neukin (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1416298129233098793&q=neukin)


http://www.neukin.com/images/fastebike.jpg

That's an awesome bike, can't wait to see version 2! I guess car guys like anything with speed

its a currie system with a geared motor. with 24volt controller. it works with 48volts it gets warm but not hot.
i mounted controller on the outside of the bike.

the motor has lots of Torque if put the front brake on and lean forward i can spin the tire till it smokes. makes for a good laugh :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJqVRO5zUkA

http://www.electric-bikes.com/prodrive.htm#U.S.%20Pro-Drive%20Conversion%20Kit

http://www.electric-bikes.com/currie10.htm#currie17

Cool ride but your youtube page says 54mph? :eek: hmm I would be surprised 30mph is more likely unless you are sneaking a jet engine in somewhere? dont run that motor for too long at 48V they burn up unless you force ventilate them.

Knoxie

heheh how to use thios :D http://endless-sphere.com/forums/files/new_paint_108.jpg hehhe end for ? 3 people :D?

Old Trek 7000zx 24lbs.
Bionx PL-350 15lbs.

Back Tire: has Cyclo - Nomorflat 26x2.125 rubber tube insert crammed into 26x2.0 specialized x-roll sport "flak jacket" kevlar fiber tire. no more flat tires as they say, no more bottom outs to worry about.

Front Tire: still regular air till rubber streches bit more. Then I will cram nomorflat into that.

Been offroading and riding train tracks into local city, 3 flats in 500 miles sick of taking engine tire off.
Also I went over board and encased all the wireing in tubing, taped all the battery holes from water.

IMO e-bikes are a great solution to the growing pollution and global warming in any shape or form. They are indeed one less car and people have a lot of fun with them. So why diss them? They are not causing any harm to anyone. They are great fun and if you are a bit older and cannot ride far they are a really good solution to extending your range.

Yo sound off on Ebikes here. BRILLIANT!!!!! This is exactly the sort of tinkerer mindset that might land one of you guys as the CEO of the next big transportation corporation. (or dead in a shallow grave murdered by the oil companies death squads :lol:) BUT Of course all sorts of illegal and dangerous contraptions are going to be made and tested on public roads, but as long as it's not being raced through throngs of traffic or people. This is how innovation happens by messing around with the concept with no blinders on. Strapping alot of weight onto a bike frame mighn't be the best of ideas but what one might learn from several versions of this could yield some spectacular results....WICKED!!!! good job all of ya....keep it up. Call me when you make this and I'm in.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3879/akira6yk.jpg
Stuff like charging the second power supply as you drain the first is killer genius. Utilizing a kinetic energy charger in the same vein as Toyota using braking to charge the cells in their hybrids. As we get deeper into the materials of energy storage and super conductivity, the 21century is already looking brighter, and we're only 7 years in.....good stuff. You won't hear me complaining about dangerous home made rigs....I seems to remember reading how the Wright brothers were doing nothing but building a death trap in their spare time. Look how that turned out.

TJ, that cartoon reminds me of this:

http://www.industryoutsider.com/images/cockpit.jpg

Dang, I like the Anime piece, Akira!

Think of them in the context of Darwin's Theory Of Natural Selection.
Yes - if Neukin intends to go for 100mph on that thing he's a dead man walking.

Look at the strength of motor cycle wheels, forks and brakes. There is a reason for all that metal and design work. Sadly our 100 mph e biker might not have time to realise what it was as he scrapes along the road on his face. I'd say he's lucky to be alive now.

All you high speed e-bikers should take note that the the laws that apply to commercially motorcycles and motorscooters are meant to apply to anything that's fast and runs on two wheels.

Here's the gist of vehicle laws in most places, as i see it:

Cars: usually weigh more than 2000 lbs.; usually capable of 80mph+ speeds. On account of their weight and speed, they can do incredible harm to people and property. So vehicles must be inspected to make sure they can be operated safely- brakes and all that. And insured so that if they hurt somebody, the person who's hurt or his heirs at least get some money if the hurt person isn't at fault.

Motorcycles: usually weigh more than 400 lbs; also capable of very high speeds. Close to same problems and solutions.

"Limited-speed motorcycles"-- normally lighter and much slower than regular motorcycles. Not as much safety regulation because it's slower and you can't do as much damage at slower speeds.

electric bicycles -- normally lighter and slower than limited speed motorcycles. Therefore no license or registration is usually required.

Vehicles like the 60mph e-bike can be made into street-legal, registered motorcycles. If you want to bend the rules and go a couple mph over the legal speed for an e-bike, I don't care. But if your two-wheeler goes 60mph then it is the kind of vehicle that motorcycle laws are meant to cover, so don't be surprised when people are mad that you're the only one with a 60mph-capable two-wheeler that doesn't follow most of the motorcycle rules.

All you high speed e-bikers should take note that the the laws that apply to commercially motorcycles and motorscooters are meant to apply to anything that's fast and runs on two wheels.

Here's the gist of vehicle laws in most places, as i see it:

Cars: usually weigh more than 2000 lbs.; usually capable of 80mph+ speeds. On account of their weight and speed, they can do incredible harm to people and property. So vehicles must be inspected to make sure they can be operated safely- brakes and all that. And insured so that if they hurt somebody, the person who's hurt or his heirs at least get some money if the hurt person isn't at fault.

Motorcycles: usually weigh more than 400 lbs; also capable of very high speeds. Close to same problems and solutions.

"Limited-speed motorcycles"-- normally lighter and much slower than regular motorcycles. Not as much safety regulation because it's slower and you can't do as much damage at slower speeds.

electric bicycles -- normally lighter and slower than limited speed motorcycles. Therefore no license or registration is usually required.

Vehicles like the 60mph e-bike can be made into street-legal, registered motorcycles. If you want to bend the rules and go a couple mph over the legal speed for an e-bike, I don't care. But if your two-wheeler goes 60mph then it is the kind of vehicle that motorcycle laws are meant to cover, so don't be surprised when people are mad that you're the only one with a 60mph-capable two-wheeler that doesn't follow most of the motorcycle rules.

Did you just make this up? Seriously.

Vehicles like the 60mph e-bike can be made into street-legal, registered motorcycles. If you want to bend the rules and go a couple mph over the legal speed for an e-bike, I don't care. But if your two-wheeler goes 60mph then it is the kind of vehicle that motorcycle laws are meant to cover, so don't be surprised when people are mad that you're the only one with a 60mph-capable two-wheeler that doesn't follow most of the motorcycle rules.

I wouldn't be mad if I saw someone with a 60mph ( or 50 mph) e bike, I'd simply check out the future widow and see if she will collect big money from insurance when her Darwin award winning husband eats concrete.

But you seem to be okay with a 47mph ebike? Isn't this Randy's top speed with his SRAM contraption? I don't understand the inconsistency here?

Robbie

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Or how about this genius, who brags of reaching over 100kph on his "electric bicycle".

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4197/imgp7058rw0.jpg



Note how he rides his "bicycle" with motorcyclists rather then with bicyclists...
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2345563547099214781





Here ROBbie this looks like a good bike for you , go as fast as you can on it, please...

If you're going to use a picture of my bike for your own arguments, please use a current one. Dual crown forks, 6 piston calipers and heavy duty downhill rims w/ 20mm through axles are recommended equipment for going fast.

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/4088/imgp7267af3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

A current picture of Randy's bike would be the same as one taken in 2003. In fact, everything Randy claims goes all the way back to 2003.

See for yourself people.

http://tinyurl.com/2ruwa5

See? LOL

And you're making fun of Lowell's bike????????

Robbie

A current picture of Randy's bike would be the same as one taken in 2003. In fact, everything Randy claims goes all the way back to 2003.

See for yourself people.

http://tinyurl.com/2ruwa5

See? LOL

And you're making fun of Lowell's bike????????

Robbie

Rim brakes at 47mph probably don't stop too safely.

Besides obviously having heavy duty compenents built for speed and high loads (read DH mountain bike), good brakes are essential. I'm sure everyone that has spent some time on two wheels can relate to this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=siU6hATTUiM
Speed was maybe 35mph.

Rim brakes at 47mph probably don't stop too safely.

Besides obviously having heavy duty compenents built for speed and high loads (read DH mountain bike), good brakes are essential. I'm sure everyone that has spent some time on two wheels can relate to this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=siU6hATTUiM
Speed was maybe 35mph.

You mean you actually do ride that contraption at 50+mph on streets?? I didn't know Canadian traffic cops were that incompetent- that they see an unlicensed, unsafe motorcycle flying by and merely stare at it, unless they can't believe anybody could be that crazy to do such a thing.

You mean you actually do ride that contraption at 50+mph on streets?? I didn't know Canadian traffic cops were that incompetent- that they see an unlicensed, unsafe motorcycle flying by and merely stare at it, unless they can't believe anybody could be that crazy to do such a thing.

Apparently the traffic cops here have better things to do, such as stop dangerous drivers, street racers, and speeders that generate $$$revenue$$$.

Apparently the traffic cops here have better things to do, such as stop dangerous drivers, street racers, and speeders that generate $$$revenue$$$.A ticket that would be for a unlicenced,unregistered,uninsured motor vehicle speeding and driving wrecklessly could bring in a few $$$$ besides them impounding your motorcycle and aresting you.Your videos would support there case along with forum input in your bloggs.

[QUOTE=n4zou]I was given an old electric scooter so I modified it and mounted it to a child hauling tandem trailer. This allows any bike to become an electric bike by just attaching the trailer to the seat post of the bike and attaching the throttle to the handlebar.

Wow thats brilliant!! U should market that.

[QUOTE=n4zou]I was given an old electric scooter so I modified it and mounted it to a child hauling tandem trailer. This allows any bike to become an electric bike by just attaching the trailer to the seat post of the bike and attaching the throttle to the handlebar.

Wow thats brilliant!! U should market that.

It sounds kind of like the 'Electric Bob Trailer' thread somewhere below. Diode Bob's Trailer for Sale or Rent is something else.