merdok
i'm in need of a bike lock but i'm not too sure which brand to get. are they all the same or does the brand make a difference? coil or shackle type?
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i'm sure you'll get lots of replys on this subject.
how valuable is your bike? I had an old beater bike that looked like junk and had no problem locking it up w/ a junker cable lock. I wouldn't think of using that same lock for my good bikes.
only one company makes a good lock as far as I am concerned and that's kryptonite.
http://www.kryptonitelock.com/
how valuable is your bike? I had an old beater bike that looked like junk and had no problem locking it up w/ a junker cable lock. I wouldn't think of using that same lock for my good bikes.
only one company makes a good lock as far as I am concerned and that's kryptonite.
http://www.kryptonitelock.com/
Dahon.Steve
If the lock costs less than the Kryptonite New York chain or 3000, forget it and buy the best.
Having said that, both of these locks can be and have been compromised long ago by the pros. If you have to lock a bike, it better not cost alot and you should be prepared to lose it.
Having said that, both of these locks can be and have been compromised long ago by the pros. If you have to lock a bike, it better not cost alot and you should be prepared to lose it.
merdok
In my opinion, my bike is kind of expensive. I spent $379.00 canadian for it. I think i'll be getting the Kryptonite brand...but which one? It's a Norco Mountaineer.
froze
The New York Chain is the toughest one-so far. But this thing weighs a lot and cost $75. The New York 3000 is one of those U type locks and it cost $65. There is alsonew lock out called the Master Lock Street Cuff that cost $70 and $130 for the better one, but no idea has to how good it is yet.
Most warranties I've seen that claim they have a anti-theft guarantee are limited in that you have to buy a new lock every 1 to 3 years to keep it active!
If crime in your area is fairly low go for one of the cheaper $65-$70 locks or buy a thick 3/8ths inch to 1/2inch coated cable with loop ends and a Discus lock for about 1/2 the price of all the others if your not overly worried. You should be able to find the cable and the lock at any well stocked locksmith shop.
Most warranties I've seen that claim they have a anti-theft guarantee are limited in that you have to buy a new lock every 1 to 3 years to keep it active!
If crime in your area is fairly low go for one of the cheaper $65-$70 locks or buy a thick 3/8ths inch to 1/2inch coated cable with loop ends and a Discus lock for about 1/2 the price of all the others if your not overly worried. You should be able to find the cable and the lock at any well stocked locksmith shop.
belfast-biker
Originally posted by merdok
i'm in need of a bike lock but i'm not too sure which brand to get. are they all the same or does the brand make a difference? coil or shackle type?
Read reviews on www.roadbikereview.com and www.mtbreview.com
I went with a kryptonite kryptolok and cable.
HAD an Abus Granit Lock and Chain from my motorbike.....alll 11lbs of it!
i'm in need of a bike lock but i'm not too sure which brand to get. are they all the same or does the brand make a difference? coil or shackle type?
Read reviews on www.roadbikereview.com and www.mtbreview.com
I went with a kryptonite kryptolok and cable.
HAD an Abus Granit Lock and Chain from my motorbike.....alll 11lbs of it!
MichaelW
For regular commutes, it is usual to keep an armoured cable or hardened steel chain at the work end and ride with a smaller shackle lock.
I have used a Kryptonite for years, but I ride an old bike for daily use.
I have used a Kryptonite for years, but I ride an old bike for daily use.
Hunter
Abus makes some real tough locks. Also look into the Master Street Cuffs.
belfast-biker
Originally posted by MichaelW
but I ride an old bike for daily use.
This I will never understand, no offence....
I see the same thing on www.visordown.com/forums ... people buy the latest, fastest, most beautiful motorcycle they can afford, then only take it out at weekends, or when its sunny, or on trackdays... surely if we buy something to ride, we should ride it regardless of circumstance?
I'l never understand using a "beater" or "hack" for day to day riding... how can you ride something shi'ite, knoewing that there is a sexy bike sitting gathering dust in your garage?
but I ride an old bike for daily use.
This I will never understand, no offence....
I see the same thing on www.visordown.com/forums ... people buy the latest, fastest, most beautiful motorcycle they can afford, then only take it out at weekends, or when its sunny, or on trackdays... surely if we buy something to ride, we should ride it regardless of circumstance?
I'l never understand using a "beater" or "hack" for day to day riding... how can you ride something shi'ite, knoewing that there is a sexy bike sitting gathering dust in your garage?
MichaelW
I didnt say I rode a crappy bike, just an old one. If a frame was high quality 15 years ago, it will still ride well today.
My £100 hack bike weighs less and rides better than any £500 hybrid. The hand built Orbea frame is covered in a home-paint job, and the wheels are professionally built from lowish end components.
I built the bike up specially to leave it unattenden in central London, and so far, the thieves have passed it by.
My £100 hack bike weighs less and rides better than any £500 hybrid. The hand built Orbea frame is covered in a home-paint job, and the wheels are professionally built from lowish end components.
I built the bike up specially to leave it unattenden in central London, and so far, the thieves have passed it by.
ViciousCycle
Kryptonite and one other company make locking wheel skewers. These are great supplemental locks as they prevent casual theft of the wheels without having to be concerned about getting your U-locks, chains, etc. through both wheels and the frame. Wheel theft is often a crime of easy opportunity -- the thief grabs an unsecured wheel or poorly secured wheel and makes off. I reccommend using locking skewers to supplement whatever locks you use. They will allow you to secure your bike more quickly. The only disadvantage is that for the rear wheel, you can use a locking skewer or a trailer skewer but not both at use.
Kryptonite New York chains are reliable. though heavy. Some people wear them around their waist like a belt until it's time to lock up their bike. Kryptonite New York locks and MasterLock street cuffs are also reliable.
Flexible cables are easily cut by cable cutters. If the cable is braided, it might be useful as a supplementary lock to secure a wheel, but is not good to use for your only lock.
Kryptonite New York chains are reliable. though heavy. Some people wear them around their waist like a belt until it's time to lock up their bike. Kryptonite New York locks and MasterLock street cuffs are also reliable.
Flexible cables are easily cut by cable cutters. If the cable is braided, it might be useful as a supplementary lock to secure a wheel, but is not good to use for your only lock.
mechBgon
I don't lock up in public very often. I have a Kryptonite Evolution2000 U-lock and the second-to-fattest of the FlexWeave cables in about a 6-foot length.
I usually use the cable to lasoo my front wheel, which leaves me most of the length of cable to work with. Then I run the cable through my seat rails to help secure the seat & post, and put the free end over the U of the U-lock.
The U-lock goes through my rear wheel and around my frame's seatstays, then around a vertical post or parking meter (electrical or natural-gas mains are the ultimate thing to lock up to, however :D). If I'm locking to a horizontal item like a pipe or railing, then I'll do similarly but put the U-lock through the rear wheel and the frame's chainstays.
This fills up the U-lock with bike, so a jack doesn't fit into it unless they want to spend some time nipping spokes first ;) The cable can be cut, but the only prize is going to be a seat/post and a wheel.
I could get an armored padlock (http://www.keymart.com/images/model_748.gif) and use it to lock the cable to itself in addition to being anchored by the U-lock too, so the thief would have to defeat the cable or padlock in addition to the U-lock. But like I said, I don't lock up in public frequently and certainly not predictably, or I'd probably be wanting to go with the New York Lock.
I usually use the cable to lasoo my front wheel, which leaves me most of the length of cable to work with. Then I run the cable through my seat rails to help secure the seat & post, and put the free end over the U of the U-lock.
The U-lock goes through my rear wheel and around my frame's seatstays, then around a vertical post or parking meter (electrical or natural-gas mains are the ultimate thing to lock up to, however :D). If I'm locking to a horizontal item like a pipe or railing, then I'll do similarly but put the U-lock through the rear wheel and the frame's chainstays.
This fills up the U-lock with bike, so a jack doesn't fit into it unless they want to spend some time nipping spokes first ;) The cable can be cut, but the only prize is going to be a seat/post and a wheel.
I could get an armored padlock (http://www.keymart.com/images/model_748.gif) and use it to lock the cable to itself in addition to being anchored by the U-lock too, so the thief would have to defeat the cable or padlock in addition to the U-lock. But like I said, I don't lock up in public frequently and certainly not predictably, or I'd probably be wanting to go with the New York Lock.
Dahon.Steve
>>>>>>I'll never understand using a "beater" or "hack" for day to day riding... how can you ride something shi'ite, knoewing that there is a sexy bike sitting gathering dust in your garage?<<<<<<
Pretty simple. In New York City, thousands of bicycles are stolen each year and many of them are locked with strong cables and chains. The nicer bikes get stolen first if only for their parts. Every lock that selling on the market has been compromised by professional bike crooks. If your going to leave that "sexy bike" on a bike rack alone for several hours, don't be surprised if it's gone when you come back.
Not long ago, someone from the Netherlands posted about a trip they made to the US. She left her $2,200.00 dollar folding road bike on a bike rack only to have it stolen.
In New York City, anything that can be removed from your bicycle will get stolen if there is no lock holding it down. If you leave new bike on the streets, all the parts may be stolen leaving you with an empty frame! I've seen this happen.
Pretty simple. In New York City, thousands of bicycles are stolen each year and many of them are locked with strong cables and chains. The nicer bikes get stolen first if only for their parts. Every lock that selling on the market has been compromised by professional bike crooks. If your going to leave that "sexy bike" on a bike rack alone for several hours, don't be surprised if it's gone when you come back.
Not long ago, someone from the Netherlands posted about a trip they made to the US. She left her $2,200.00 dollar folding road bike on a bike rack only to have it stolen.
In New York City, anything that can be removed from your bicycle will get stolen if there is no lock holding it down. If you leave new bike on the streets, all the parts may be stolen leaving you with an empty frame! I've seen this happen.
belfast-biker
Originally posted by Dahon.Steve
Not long ago, someone from the Netherlands posted about a trip they made to the US. She left her $2,200.00 dollar folding road bike on a bike rack only to have it stolen.
In New York City, anything that can be removed from your bicycle will get stolen if there is no lock holding it down. If you leave new bike on the streets, all the parts may be stolen leaving you with an empty frame! I've seen this happen.
Nice place.
Not long ago, someone from the Netherlands posted about a trip they made to the US. She left her $2,200.00 dollar folding road bike on a bike rack only to have it stolen.
In New York City, anything that can be removed from your bicycle will get stolen if there is no lock holding it down. If you leave new bike on the streets, all the parts may be stolen leaving you with an empty frame! I've seen this happen.
Nice place.
Raiyn
Originally posted by Dahon.Steve
>>>>>>I'll never understand using a "beater" or "hack" for day to day riding... how can you ride something shi'ite, knoewing that there is a sexy bike sitting gathering dust in your garage?<<<<<<
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>>>>>>I'll never understand using a "beater" or "hack" for day to day riding... how can you ride something shi'ite, knoewing that there is a sexy bike sitting gathering dust in your garage?<<<<<<
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Richard D
I've just been looking at locks, over here a lot of the insurance companies rely on Sold Secure ratings - generally bikes under £250 sterling are okay with Bronze rated locks, upto £1500 Silver, above £1500 Gold. Have a look at www.soldsecure.com but be warned the gold rated locks are pretty weighty...
Richard
Richard
dhutch
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ignominious
Being in Toronto as you are, make a trip to Mointain Equipment Co-op. They have Planet Bike chains that are really good, heavy and often the couriers choice. Weighty but worth it.
Other than that I would advise on Kryptonite or On Guard Ds with a cable supplement to lock the wheels as a bare minimum.
Other than that I would advise on Kryptonite or On Guard Ds with a cable supplement to lock the wheels as a bare minimum.
San Rensho
This I will never understand, no offence....
I see the same thing on www.visordown.com/forums ... people buy the latest, fastest, most beautiful motorcycle they can afford, then only take it out at weekends, or when its sunny, or on trackdays... surely if we buy something to ride, we should ride it regardless of circumstance?
I'l never understand using a "beater" or "hack" for day to day riding... how can you ride something shi'ite, knoewing that there is a sexy bike sitting gathering dust in your garage?
Different applications dictate different bikes. Would you ride an Aprilia 250 race bike, with chin-on-tank ergos, gearing set for Daytona beach, no radiator fan, in rush hour traffic in NYC? I'd drive it on the freeway, if I could get away with it, but it wouldn't be appropriate for stop and go traffic.
Likewise my road bicycle. Fragile wheels and tires, smallest gear it too big for rush hour, and layed down ergos do not make for a good commuter, so I use an old 3 speed to commute.
I see the same thing on www.visordown.com/forums ... people buy the latest, fastest, most beautiful motorcycle they can afford, then only take it out at weekends, or when its sunny, or on trackdays... surely if we buy something to ride, we should ride it regardless of circumstance?
I'l never understand using a "beater" or "hack" for day to day riding... how can you ride something shi'ite, knoewing that there is a sexy bike sitting gathering dust in your garage?
Different applications dictate different bikes. Would you ride an Aprilia 250 race bike, with chin-on-tank ergos, gearing set for Daytona beach, no radiator fan, in rush hour traffic in NYC? I'd drive it on the freeway, if I could get away with it, but it wouldn't be appropriate for stop and go traffic.
Likewise my road bicycle. Fragile wheels and tires, smallest gear it too big for rush hour, and layed down ergos do not make for a good commuter, so I use an old 3 speed to commute.
geo8rge
My quick take on bike theft is if you take the seat, skewers and pedals off the bike it is just about worthless to a theif. Quick release pedals ($70) and even chains ($25) are available. I would use a decent U+Cable but not the New York $75 watchamacallit.
ZachS
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dhutch
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Ah crap, i didnt look at date. :(
Sorry about that! Doh!
Daniel
Ah crap, i didnt look at date. :(
Sorry about that! Doh!
Daniel
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