Ran light and paid the ultimate price

[Charlie Quatro]

From the Los Angeles Times-

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-rbriefs10.2jun10,1,6216753.story?coll=la-headlines-california

Bicyclist runs light, is hit, killed by car
From Times Staff Reports
June 10, 2007


A 43-year-old San Luis Obispo man who ran a traffic light on his bicycle was struck by a car and killed, police said Saturday.

Police said David Hulbert failed to heed a red light at the intersection of Hospital Road and Pacific Coast Highway about 9 p.m. Friday.

He was hit by a westbound car on PCH and pronounced dead at the scene, police said.

The accident was under investigation.

[wheel]

From the Los Angeles Times-

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-rbriefs10.2jun10,1,6216753.story?coll=la-headlines-california



The accident was under investigation.
If the tittle and what you say is so cut and dry why is it under investigation?

[Berg417448]

If the tittle and what you say is so cut and dry why is it under investigation?

Most likely because there will probably be an autopsy and drug screen done since it is a non-natural death.

[CommuterRun]

I was cruising around YouTube this morning checking out bike messenger videos and came across one, don't remember what city it was. Yep, you guessed it. One messenger ran a red and got creamed by a yellow cab.

[dobber]

If the tittle and what you say is so cut and dry why is it under investigation?

Standard procedure in an accident. Kind of like when a motorist hits a cyclist, while we're so quick to jump to conclusions, law enforcement decides to gather all the pertinent information before rendering an opinion.

[Falkon]

So what did we learn here? Stopping at red lights is a good thing.

[Stacey]

Ya think?

[Winter76]

Stop signs for me are pretty optional, I check for cars then proceed, but stop lights are a must. I always stop and wait them out and quite often other cyclists will, seemingly without looking, just ride straight through the intersection. Crazy.

[maddyfish]

Too bad the guy had to die, but if you run enough stop lights, that's what will happen.

[Blue Order]

Must not have been one of those red light runners who is always careful... :rolleyes:

Sorry, but I'm all out of sympathy for these guys...

[I-Like-To-Bike]

So what did we learn here? Stopping at red lights is a good thing.
Actually the better lesson is to look for assured clearance/space from opposing/conflicting traffic before entering an intersection.

[gosmsgo]

ah, my favorite bicyclists.

"Im a vehicle damnit!!!" then they run the next stop sign they see.

If you are too lazy to stop at stop signs then just start driving a car.

[Falkon]

Ya think?
Generally, but apparantly some don't and end up getting creamed by cars after running red lights.

[Falkon]

Actually the better lesson is to look for assured clearance/space from opposing/conflicting traffic before entering an intersection.

correct, along with acting like vehicular traffic if you want to be treated like vehicular traffic.

[PaulH]

Actually the better lesson is to look for assured clearance/space from opposing/conflicting traffic before entering an intersection.
Which is why one stops -- to scan for traffic. I'm amazed at the motorists and cyclists who momentarily stop, but fail to swivel their heads and check the intersection.

Paul

[I-Like-To-Bike]

Which is why one stops -- to scan for traffic. I'm amazed at the motorists and cyclists who momentarily stop, but fail to swivel their heads and check the intersection.

Paul
Some cyclists can chew gum and ride a bike at the same time; some can use their eyes and scan an intersection while moving and assure that the intersection is clear. Stopping isn't the action that makes a cyclist safe at an intersection, not conflicting with other traffic is the answer. However if a cyclist is incapable of seeing clearly where the possible traffic might be while moving, he/she should definitely stop and wait until assured that it is safe to enter the intersection.

[Blue Order]

Some cyclists can chew gum and ride a bike at the same time; some can use their eyes and scan an intersection while moving and assure that the intersection is clear. Stopping isn't the action that makes a cyclist safe at an intersection, not conflicting with other traffic is the answer. However if a cyclist is incapable of seeing clearly where the possible traffic might be while moving, he/she should definitely stop and wait until assured that it is safe to enter the intersection.:rolleyes:

They all say they're capable of seeing...

[bragi]

I've run red lights before. (So has everyone else on this forum, if they're honest.) If you wait at an intersection and the light simply won't change because your bike doesn't have enough metal in it to trip the sensor, then IMO it's perfectly okay to run the light, if no other traffic is present. But you should take special precautions, like checking to see if any cars are coming.

[I-Like-To-Bike]

:rolleyes:

They all say they're capable of seeing...
Do They now? You sure of that? What do You know at all about what They say or think about anything?

BTW, who is They ?

[Blue Order]

Do They now? You sure of that? What do You know at all about what They say or think about anything?

BTW, who is They ?Every cyclist who runs red lights. They all say the same thing.

:rolleyes:

[Blue Order]

I've run red lights before. (So has everyone else on this forum, if they're honest.) If you wait at an intersection and the light simply won't change because your bike doesn't have enough metal in it to trip the sensor, then IMO it's perfectly okay to run the light, if no other traffic is present. But you should take special precautions, like checking to see if any cars are coming.Well, if you count cautiously rolling through a malfunctioning light, then I probably have at some point in my life. Even in a car. But i really think that muddies the waters-- i don't think that somebody obeying the law-- because when you cautiously roll through a malfunctioning light you're obeying the law-- is the same thing as these jerkwads who run red lights because they're, um, jerkwads.

[I-Like-To-Bike]

Every cyclist who runs red lights. They all say the same thing.

:rolleyes:
You must have very good ears; or a very clear crystal ball.

[Blue Order]

You must have very good ears...Good enough to hear what people say when they say it.

[wheel]

Or you could just make a right and do a uturn.

[cooker]

Standard procedure in an accident. Kind of like when a motorist hits a cyclist, while we're so quick to jump to conclusions, law enforcement decides to gather all the pertinent information before rendering an opinion.

"Kind of like"?

[cyclebutt77]

Wow ! not this guys day I guess. Always thought that if I were to get hit, That any road called hospital rd. would be a good start! Sorry for the levity. It's very sad but sometimes humor helps.