Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Tubulars on street? good/bad idea?

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slayer_track
06-14-07, 05:42 PM
can to skid off a Tubular?
are they sketchy on street?


Yoshi
06-14-07, 05:55 PM
I do it once a week when I'm riding my track bike to the track. I find that it takes longer to stop as the tires I have on there seem slicker and are at a higher pressure.

Also I've flatted twice in a 1-2 month period which really sucks. Especially since I ride this bike only once a week, for a total of maybe 20 miles on the street.

I have friends who regularly ride tubulars on the street, some who used to messenger on them.

piwonka
06-14-07, 06:00 PM
i've had a sprinter on the front of my bike for a few months now, that's like maybe 500 miles i guess. no flats.

tubulars are a little harder to mount and change than clinchers but they ride and handle better. you don't have to run 170psi in them, i usually run 140-150psi.

i'm about to build a tubular wheelset for my track bike so i'll be riding tubular on the front and rear.
tubular rims are real cheap.

you can get cheap tubulars for about $30...but they don't ride as nice as the nicer ones. what are the sprinter gatorskins, like $45 or something...


Ceya
06-14-07, 06:28 PM
Do a search , you will find info.

S/F,
CEYA!

Gyeswho
06-14-07, 06:48 PM
I've only done about 5miles and was very worried about flatting just cuz of the practical reason of not having a quick tire change which is at its optimum. I will say the control and feeling are amazingly better than clincher but (imo) i don't think its best to mess with tubies in the streets just for convenience sake when you get a flat.

silent1
06-14-07, 07:23 PM
Don't want to start a huge debate but you can change a tublular just as fast a you can change a clincher.

Kaibot
06-14-07, 07:24 PM
Get some Tufo tubular clinchers, lawl

Astronomical
06-14-07, 07:25 PM
I like my hardcases... :)

GeraldChan
06-14-07, 07:34 PM
If you street shoulders are clean you should have no problems. However, good tubulars like the Veloflex Criteriums cost $71 each so you would NOT want to abuse them by skidding or skipping.

As has been posted many times, changing a flat with tubulars is easier than with clinchers. REPARING the flat is a PITA so I just send them to Tirealert@tirealert.com and for $18 I get back my repaired tire with a new lightweight butyl tube and new basetape.

If you run a high end wheelset you will be amazed at how quickly you can accelerate with sew-up wheels.:D

Gerry

kemmer
06-14-07, 09:19 PM
and for $18 I get back my repaired tire with a new lightweight butyl tube and new basetape.


**rethinks decision to sell tubular wheelset.**

acoldspoon
07-16-07, 10:07 PM
Don't want to start a huge debate but you can change a tublular just as fast a you can change a clincher.
I can glue and seat a tubular a great deal faster than a clincher and still turn hard within minutes. Surprised none of you know about...
http://www.lickbike.com/lickimages/1619.gif

blickblocks
07-16-07, 10:32 PM
I got a flat today, but I shouldn't complain, the tire is probably at least 10 years old. I'm totally new to tubulars. Looks like I need to buy 2 tires huh? 1 to ride on and 1 as a spare?

Overall, from the few miles I've rode on the tubular (about 10), I really liked the way it feels. I can't really articulate exactly what it is, but something just feels different about the handling. Could also be the fact that I'm freewheeling for this first time in months!

Ceya
07-16-07, 11:11 PM
I can glue and seat a tubular a great deal faster than a clincher and still turn hard within minutes. Surprised none of you know about...
http://www.lickbike.com/lickimages/1619.gif


I know about it, leonard harvey nitz of 7 Eleven was the first to start using it in the early 80s.

They started making different ones that some guys bought the wrong one.

Issues,issues. i stayed with vittoria red and clement red, messy but secure.

S/F,
CEYA!

acoldspoon
07-16-07, 11:57 PM
I know about it, leonard harvey nitz of 7 Eleven was the first to start using it in the early 80s.

They started making different ones that some guys bought the wrong one.

Issues,issues. i stayed with vittoria red and clement red, messy but secure.

S/F,
CEYA! While Leonard Harvey Nitz was certainly one of my cycling heros, I doubt he was the first American to start using Fast Tack. Helped popularize it maybe. I say this because I started using Fast Tack in 1986, and I knew a number of people that had already been using it for years by then. I want to say that Bill Farrell (of Fit Kit fame) first turned me on to Fast Tack during a Claremont Speedway points race, but it could have been somebody else. I might have been one of the Tobias', Neil from West Hill Shop, or one of the Branford Bike guys. Maybe even Mike Walden, one of the Young's, or another coach from the Wolverine Sports Club. But I'm pretty sure Bill mentioned it to me first. I don't think I touched a tube of actual tire cement till I was in college a few years later.

Ceya
07-17-07, 01:04 AM
While Leonard Harvey Nitz was certainly one of my cycling heros, I doubt he was the first American to start using Fast Tack. Helped popularize it maybe. I say this because I started using Fast Tack in 1986, and I knew a number of people that had already been using it for years by then. I want to say that Bill Farrell (of Fit Kit fame) first turned me on to Fast Tack during a Claremont Speedway points race, but it could have been somebody else. I might have been one of the Tobias', Neil from West Hill Shop, or one of the Branford Bike guys. Maybe even Mike Walden, one of the Young's, or another coach from the Wolverine Sports Club. But I'm pretty sure Bill mentioned it to me first. I don't think I touched a tube of actual tire cement till I was in college a few years later.


I know Mike Walden, Claire Young, Dale Hughes and guys and gals of Wolverine. I heard about it the same time you was start using it.

I heard Nitz was using it but loved my messy red in 1986 and now even though they stopped making it.


S/F,
CEYA!

acoldspoon
07-17-07, 01:29 AM
I know Mike Walden, Claire Young, Dale Hughes and guys and gals of Wolverine. I heard about it the same time you was start using it.

I heard Nitz was using it but loved my messy red in 1986 and now even though they stopped making it.


S/F,
CEYA!
So, did you race road, or just track? Wonder if we were ever in the same paceline. Mike was one serious hard ass, but taught me a lot about cornering. Oh, and he was seriously pro-tubulars.

Ceya
07-17-07, 12:07 PM
So, did you race road, or just track? Wonder if we were ever in the same paceline. Mike was one serious hard ass, but taught me a lot about cornering. Oh, and he was seriously pro-tubulars.


We are in the same location , we can meet up and talk over the old days. Lean the bike, take the apex and remember the cone drills with riders on each side bumping you.

S/F,
CEYA!

JeffS
07-17-07, 12:20 PM
can to skid off a Tubular?



Is that english?

If you have to ask, then you probably can't even mount a tubular, so don't worry about it.

bonechilling
07-17-07, 12:42 PM
I haven't had to patch a tubular tire since I started using the liquid Tufo tubular patch stuff. I swear by it, even if it is messy and it occasionally leaks out the valve stem.

Oh yeah, and Gatorskins on the street.