Vehicular Cycling (VC) - Evidence of sidewalks reinforcing the notion

john, i claimed neither of those statements, silly man! stop putting words in my mouth. you have abject lack of comprehension.

"there are cities around the world that have increased bicycling and bicyclist safety thru the use of bike specific infrastructure."

and might I add, bike specific infrastructure can make cycling more pleasant for even the most experienced vehicular cyclist.

Seems to me that discussions of sidewalks reinforcing the notion reinforces a notion of its own: Any interesting, rational discussion must be blocked and switched back to our currently scheduled anti-bike lane rant, pronto!

john, i claimed neither of those statements, silly man!

Here are your own words: "umm, there are cities around the world that have increased both numbers of bicyclists and bicyclist safety by the addition of bike specific infrastructure, boys."

yep.

Not 10 minutes ago I was honked on while in the bike lane.

I thought bike lanes made JAM's horns quit working. I thought it was like a force field of some type.

at least you weren't on the sidewalk ;)

Seems to me that discussions of sidewalks reinforcing the notion reinforces a notion of its own: Any interesting, rational discussion must be blocked and switched back to our currently scheduled anti-bike lane rant, pronto!
Which was all prompted by THC taking JFs words and substituting 'BL' for 'sidewalk.'
Al

Not 10 minutes ago I was honked on while in the bike lane.

I thought bike lanes made JAM's horns quit working. I thought it was like a force field of some type.
HH, is that you? Channeling in another guise? Notions; Force fields; Steely-eyed Gazes; Whatever!:rolleyes: