Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Lightweight prebuilt track bikes?

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Hopetoditchcar
06-19-07, 10:54 AM
I am considering buying a prebuilt fixed/single speed. I am looking in the $500 to $1000 range. Are there any manufactures that makes these that are lightweight? Are there any manufacturers that sell them with aluminum frames in this price range?
llalagen
06-19-07, 11:30 AM
Jamis sputnik is a pretty light prebuilt bike,... it has a carbon fork so it's somewhat questionable in the city in the long run but it's one the best factory bikes you'll find around I think it runs somewhere in the 800 range. another issue is that jamis is out of them for the season so you'd have to find a shop that has one in stock in your size already. It's kind of a shot it the dark but it's worth looking into. I would really recomend staying steel. You can get unbelievably light with steel and it will last forever. But then again that's just me.
streetlightpoet
06-19-07, 12:15 PM
what's your definition of light? My Masi is the lightest bike I've ever owned and <1000. As for aluminum there is the Giant Bowery, no idea about weight though.
Hopetoditchcar
06-19-07, 12:26 PM
You can get unbelievably light with steel
really? My steel bike I built was easily over 20 lbs
streetlightpoet
06-19-07, 12:32 PM
really? My steel bike I built was easily over 20 lbs It's comparing apples and apples on steroids but my 20lb steel bike feels pretty light compared to my 35+ lb aluminum bike.
llalagen
06-19-07, 02:07 PM
really? My steel bike I built was easily over 20 lbs
i didn't say every steel bike is light,... if you use an old schwinn then of course you're going to have a bike that heavy as anything,... the swobo sanchez fixed gear comes built from the factory and weighs 19 pounds. put continental four seasons tires on, swap out the crappy and heavy pedals and all the extra stuff like the bottle opener under the seat rails and reflectors and you're easily under 18 pounds with a galvanized steel track bike. And like i said steel will last for ever and the galvanized touch will keep it looking extremely nice for a long time even with taking a beating. keep in mind that the sanchez also only costs 600 bucks... if there's a possibility of going up to a grand i'm sure you could drop another pound or so.
baxtefer
06-19-07, 02:47 PM
Cannondale Capo should be pretty light.
It's a CAAD6 (i think) frame, which was TdF worthy not too long ago.
Boss Moniker
06-19-07, 03:00 PM
CAAD5, actually.. but it's a great aluminum frame/carbon fork combo. Built up with pretty standard weight components, mine weighs 16lbs without a brake in "track mode".
Very highly recommended.
roscoenyc57
06-19-07, 04:07 PM
Fuji Track Pro is wicked light. The Bike Buiz sells 'em for just under 1K and Fuji's site lists the weight at under 15lbs w/o pedals
Hopetoditchcar
06-19-07, 07:01 PM
wow that is light. Are any other bikes close to that weight?
exfreewheeler
06-19-07, 08:49 PM
The IRO Jamie Roy is also Aluminum... and cheap!
With some lightweight tires, a thompson seatpost, and a new saddle, I think my langster comp is running right around 16 lbs or so. And the thing still has this massive carbon fork and like, 36 spoke wheels.
StanSeven
06-19-07, 08:57 PM
Fuji Track Pro is wicked light. The Bike Buiz sells 'em for just under 1K and Fuji's site lists the weight at under 15lbs w/o pedals
That's what I have. Track bikes are light because there are no gears, der's (both front and rear) or brakes. But the frame has to be stiff enough for tremendious forces compared to a typical road bike. So the frame weighs a little more.
That's what I have. Track bikes are light because there are no gears, der's (both front and rear) or brakes. But the frame has to be stiff enough for tremendious forces compared to a typical road bike. So the frame weighs a little more.
Road bikes can survive cobble stone at 30mph for hundreds of miles then have the rider unleash 1500 watt sprints at the end of that. I'm pretty sure they're tough enough.
bonechilling
06-19-07, 09:49 PM
Road bikes can survive cobble stone at 30mph for hundreds of miles then have the rider unleash 1500 watt sprints at the end of that. I'm pretty sure they're tough enough.
What?!@#? No!! STEEL IS REAL!!
Hopetoditchcar
06-20-07, 04:43 AM
The IRO Jamie Roy is also Aluminum... and cheap!
I like that bike, but it lists it as 18.5 lbs on the website while the frame is only 4 lbs. where does all the extra weight come from?
What?!@#? No!! STEEL IS REAL!!
In engineering school, we were always taught that steel is rust.
I like that bike, but it lists it as 18.5 lbs on the website while the frame is only 4 lbs. where does all the extra weight come from?
El cheap wheels = a good 4 lbs right there. You're up to 8.
Cheap handle bar and stem, 10 lbs. Cheap saddle and seat post, up to 11.5 now. Cog, chain, chainring, crank, bb, like, 15-16. Fork, 17-18, pedals, 19 lbs.
Aeroplane
06-20-07, 06:12 AM
Any mid-range AL track/SS bike will be lighter than the comparably priced steel one. The Raleigh One-Way, Fuji Track Pro, and Specialized Langster are all pretty standard aluminum complete options. The Raleigh and the Fuji are decidedly more "track" than the base-model Langster, but the Langster has some pretty high-end models that have steeper geo, better parts, etc.
The Raleigh One-Way, Fuji Track Pro, and Specialized Langster are all pretty standard aluminum complete options.
The One Way being built of special Reynolds 520 chromoly steel aluminum. But the Raleigh Rush Hour Reynolds 525 chromoly steel aluminum model is a better for the track.
But, yeah, they make some of the SS/FG bikes stout for beating around the urban jungle, and they make some flyweight for the track or road riding. Aluminum or steel frame is no indicator of weight.
TCS
freebird
06-20-07, 07:45 AM
Felt.
Trek T1? Lemond Fillmore? Jamis Sputnik?
yellowjeep
06-20-07, 07:49 AM
The One Way being built of special Reynolds 520 chromoly steel aluminum. But the Raleigh Rush Hour Reynolds 525 chromoly steel aluminum model is a better for the track.
TCS
What?
Aeroplane
06-20-07, 08:17 AM
The One Way being built of special Reynolds 520 chromoly steel aluminum. But the Raleigh Rush Hour Reynolds 525 chromoly steel aluminum model is a better for the track.
You're right, it's the Raleigh Rush Hour Pro that I was thinking of.
Aluminum or steel frame is no indicator of weight.Actually, all things being equal, it usually is. If you give me two frames made for the same purpose (that aluminum is suitable for), and the same cost, the aluminum one will probably be lighter.
That said, most steel bikes are light enough for most folks. But who wants to be most folks? ;)
godless scum
06-20-07, 08:18 AM
Trek T1? Lemond Fillmore? Jamis Sputnik?
we weighed our trek T1 at work and the 54 came in around 15.4 w/o pedals. not bad considering the ****ty butt-ranger saddle, post, etc. and the bontrager wheels actually feel pretty nice out of the box.
the lemond fillmore, on the other hand, is a tank, and always will be. they downgraded the tubing this year i believe.
Jamis sputnik is a pretty light prebuilt bike,... it has a carbon fork so it's somewhat questionable in the city in the long run ....
I've been rocking the Sput in the city for a year and a half now with no problems, carbon fork and all. It's a great bike, and nice and light.
Hopetoditchcar
06-20-07, 08:51 AM
I wonder if it might be a better option to buy nicer wheels and a light frame and build it up. It seems for the price that this might be a good option. My only fear is that the small stuff adds up. I almost wish I could find a place that sells everything (sea post, stem, BB, cranks, chain....) and then pick out a nice frame and wheelset. For my old fixie, I bought weimann wheels with formula hubs add tothat tires and tubes... and it was about $200 for the wheels, which wasn't bad and they were much much lighter than the fancy mavics I have on my orbea
I wanted to build one, but my old bike got squashed by an SUV, and a needed a new one fast. The Sput was in stock, and rode nice. I've never looked back.....
till I read project threads and get jealous.
kubacola
06-20-07, 10:26 AM
bianchi pista, chrome version... i know they are popular and the parts are not all that good but I think its a pretty thing. Chrome rocks! Plus you get to customise if so inclined...
Hopetoditchcar
06-20-07, 10:38 AM
are they pretty light?
"special" Reynolds 520 is actually the exact same as "generic" 4130 according to some reference i saw.
The One Way being built of special Reynolds 520 chromoly steel aluminum. But the Raleigh Rush Hour Reynolds 525 chromoly steel aluminum model is a better for the track.
But, yeah, they make some of the SS/FG bikes stout for beating around the urban jungle, and they make some flyweight for the track or road riding. Aluminum or steel frame is no indicator of weight.
TCS
schwinn
06-20-07, 06:12 PM
What?!@#? No!! STEEL IS REAL!!
+1;)
Hopetoditchcar
06-20-07, 07:38 PM
Are there any companies that sell component sets (BB, crank, seat post, chain...) for pretty cheap? I don't mind if the components are heavier or crappy, I would like to start with a nice frame and wheels and then slowly upgrade the other stuff.
posted for like the 50th time..
My Specialized Langster Pro is pretty stock.. just has a different stem which is a tiny weight difference. It came in at 15.64lbs with pedals and straps.
Hopetoditchcar
06-20-07, 10:21 PM
thanks I will check it out. Are there any other comapnies that sell a aluminum frame/ carbon fork bike around 600
bonechilling
06-20-07, 11:08 PM
"special" Reynolds 520 is actually the exact same as "generic" 4130 according to some reference i saw.
I heard the same thing from a local mechanic.
Hopetoditchcar
06-21-07, 10:28 AM
Are there any companies that sell component sets (BB, crank, seat post, chain...) for cheap? someting just to get started?
Aeroplane
06-21-07, 10:35 AM
www.irofixedgear.com
But oftentimes a lot of the stuff (like seat posts, bottom brackets, and headsets) should be bought on an individual basis, to make sure it's compatible with your frame/fork. And at that point, there's only like 5 or six more parts to buy, so why not just do 'em all?
Are there any companies that sell component sets (BB, crank, seat post, chain...) for pretty cheap? I don't mind if the components are heavier or crappy, I would like to start with a nice frame and wheels and then slowly upgrade the other stuff.
Euro Asia Imports group from American Cyclery
hs, bb, crank, post, hub, cog, lockring, chain, pedals, clip/str $412
Hopetoditchcar
06-21-07, 11:18 AM
Wooh thats a lot, Maybe something around $100?
Wooh thats a lot, Maybe something around $100?
hellz no
Aeroplane
06-21-07, 11:58 AM
Wooh thats a lot, Maybe something around $100?
The cheapest IRO build kit is $125, and that's just the drivetrain, no headset, stem, bars, or seatpost.
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