BMX - Any upgrades/parts to get along with a DK Signal?

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thermo
06-19-07, 06:41 PM
I've been doing some more reading in my spare time about different bikes and came to the conclusion that I don't really want a KHE bike, and definitely don't want the KHE Dafunction. (BTW, the only flatland specific completes I know that are out there are the DK Signal, KHE Stylus, KHE Dafunction, KHE Tantra, and the WTP Metric. Are there any others that I'm not aware of, and are worth considering?)

So anyway I'm pretty sure a Signal is the way I'm going to go, even though it weighs a considerable amount more than say the KHE Stylus (32 lbs vs 29 lbs).

The freecoaster it comes with is crap I've heard, and will probably go bad withing a few months/year. So I'm thinking I might as well get a better one when I order my stuff (I'd wait in putting it on I till the original one broke most likely). And some people were saying that they bent the cranks on the Signal the first day or two they were riding. So should I get half-decent three piece cranks along with the freecoaster (and yes, I'm pretty sure I want a freecoaster so unless freecoasters are worth paying to get rid of don't try to convince me I don't want it)? And of course while I'm at it I'll probably throw in some new grips (ODI Longnecks I heard were good?).

I have a considerable amount I can spend on the bike/parts (up to about $500-600 approx), so are there any other parts/upgrades I should consider?

And what freecoasters are good (and would work with the Signal)? I've heard some good stuff about the KHE Geisha freecoaster ($120), but it is a bit costly, and I'd only buy it if it would REALLY be worth getting over say, the sealed Taska freecoaster ($80).

For cranks I'm not really sure. I don't want to spend tons and tons, but I do want better reliability (and maybe less weight?) than the stock one-piece cranks that come on the Signal. (Would the WTP royal crankset work with the Signal?)

Sorry for the long post, hehe. But I'm sure you will be able to help me out.


cwt341
06-19-07, 08:17 PM
i would get the bike and replace parts as you break them or as you truly need them

minichamp31
06-19-07, 08:27 PM
I agree with cwt.


live4muzic2
06-19-07, 08:39 PM
I agree with cwt.
me to

FitRider 921
06-19-07, 08:56 PM
I also agree with cwt, but if you are going to spend that much on other parts, why not just buy a better complete?

live4muzic2
06-19-07, 09:16 PM
true fit

thermo
06-20-07, 10:22 AM
I would get a better complete bike if it was worth the extra money. But the khe stylus isn't a whole lot better, the khe dafunction i've heard isn't that great, the khe tantra isnt worth the money (for $1k might as well get a custom bike), and the only other flatland bike i know of is the wtp metric. I could see myself getting it, but i would want it to last a long time without getting new parts, as it is more expensive. And just to let you all know, i want this new bike to last a good year or two (or more) without spending tons on repairs/upgrades.

minichamp31
06-20-07, 10:30 AM
Any bike should be able to last that long without getting a bunch of new parts and stuff. If you're so worried about it, pick a different bike.

live4muzic2
06-20-07, 10:56 AM
ive had my bike since march 2006 and i am really ready to get rid of it. I would have put more money in a better complete bike. Ive got 5 months til I get a custom. get a nice new bike

FitRider 921
06-20-07, 11:00 AM
I've only ridden my bike for about four months and I wish I bought a better bike.

cwt341
06-20-07, 11:50 AM
FIT i thought you had a nice bike

FitRider 921
06-20-07, 11:55 AM
Nope, my bike sucks. It's falling apart.

cwt341
06-20-07, 12:46 PM
what kind of bike is it

FitRider 921
06-20-07, 01:10 PM
Fit Pro.

cwt341
06-20-07, 02:53 PM
i thoguht that was a decent bike??

FitRider 921
06-20-07, 02:59 PM
The frame isn't full chromo and it comes with Jalco rims which suck. I'd rather have a DK Six Pack. I really wish I was rich and got a Fit Flow.

thermo
06-20-07, 03:04 PM
So you guys are saying i should go with the metric, cause if i get the signal i'll end up wishing i'd gotten something better? I wouldnt mind doing that, so long as the metric is a good complete and it would last me a good several years without to much repair. Btw i know my hoffman disrupter is not a flatland bike, but what is it? Dirt? Street?

cwt341
06-20-07, 06:43 PM
i think that hoffman is street but im not sure

FitRider 921
06-20-07, 07:10 PM
Most complete bikes (other than flatland) are setup to where they are decent for dirt, street, and park.

thermo
06-20-07, 07:15 PM
And would you recommend I go with the Metric (about $600) and just keep it the way it is (except maybe minor part upgrades/replacements), or go with the Signal (almost $300), and put about $200-$300 into it?

Nobody knows of any other flatland bikes for around $500 (and not the KHE Dafunction) do they?

FitRider 921
06-20-07, 07:20 PM
If I were you, I would go with the Metric. The more you spend at first, the less you will spend later. The bike just feels so much better if you buy a better bike rather than buying a less expensive one and putting random parts on it.

KinetikBiker
06-20-07, 07:47 PM
Most complete bikes (other than flatland) are setup to where they are decent for dirt, street, and park.
Yezzir.


Nope, my bike sucks. It's falling apart.
How can this happen when you barely ride it?!

FitRider 921
06-20-07, 07:48 PM
How can this happen when you barely ride it?!
I'm a beastly street rider.

cwt341
06-20-07, 09:16 PM
FIT how many time do you think you have even rode your bike

live4muzic2
06-20-07, 09:35 PM
fit probably tears it up with a cast like my freind did.

what is the metric?

minichamp31
06-20-07, 09:46 PM
what is the metric?

A WeThePeople flatland I guess.

live4muzic2
06-20-07, 09:48 PM
i like the four seasons in black and purple

the metric looks good for flatland

FitRider 921
06-20-07, 10:38 PM
FIT how many time do you think you have even rode your bike
Not enough...

cwt341
06-20-07, 10:57 PM
lol

live4muzic2
06-20-07, 11:05 PM
lol

ahem* abbreviation! just kidding

thermo
06-20-07, 11:10 PM
Anyway, bakc on topic. So everybody seems to agree that I should go with the WTP Metric (2007)? It already has 3pc cranks, a sealed freecoaster, small sprocket, short crank arms, etc (as opposed to the DK Signal which I'd end up needing to shell out prolly a good $100-$250 on parts later on).

Plus the WTP Metric is only 27.75 lbs, compared to the Signal being about 32 lbs (DK and Hoffman seem to make really heavy bikes). The weight should be a lot better that my 37 pound Hoffman. About ten lbs lighter. :O Of course I'll have to treat it nicer than I do my Hoffman (which takes a considerable amount of abuse).

live4muzic2
06-20-07, 11:12 PM
yep, get the metric!

thermo
06-20-07, 11:16 PM
yep, get the metric!
If I find I don't like it, or if it turns out bad, I'll know who to blame! :D

live4muzic2
06-20-07, 11:34 PM
If I find I don't like it, or if it turns out bad, I'll know who to blame! :D
i dont kare what you get... put the money towards hookers for all care!

KinetikBiker
06-21-07, 09:15 AM
I'm a beastly street rider.
From the mouth of Borat...

NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.

thermo
06-21-07, 09:37 AM
What was that 'not' for? Anyway, i found a place that is selling the wtp metric for only $480. A lot better than $600 from the other place. :) so i think ill get it from the cheaper place, once im finished reading reviews on the bike.

FitRider 921
06-21-07, 11:25 AM
From the mouth of Borat...

NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
That movie sucked.

EDIT: Also, you forgot the 'pause' before the 'not.'

RobHarmer
06-21-07, 02:35 PM
Honestly, Ive ridden a few Signals. I dont see anything wrong with it. Its perfect for beginner flat, short frame, ideal gear ratio, four pegs, and a freecoaster. Its not worth spending $600 on flat bike before you start riding and learning what style parts feel comfortable to you. There are so many options in flatland that could be why there are so few completes out there.

I dont know how old you are or how good you are at riding, or how much you weigh, but I highly doubt youll break parts on the Signal. I weigh 180 and beat my friends Signals and they are tough. dont let the 1 PC. cranks scare you, its more than sufficient. As you ride and progress you'll want to change parts that suit your riding style better and your going to want to do that wether you but the WTP or the Signal. dont waste your cash. The signals a great ride.

thermo
06-21-07, 05:27 PM
One thing with the Signal though is that it weighs 32 lbs. My Hoffman was about 37 lbs, and I really hate the weight. It was one of the main reasons that I decided I needed a new bike.

I could get the Signal if I suddenly realize I don't want to get the Metric, but I don't know. The Signal doesn't seem to be quite as much "flatlandish" as the Metric (the frame differences are quite different and all). I would rather spend $500 on a bike that I would really like that $300 on a bike and have a chance that I wouldn't like it (the main thing right now that I don't like about the Signal is that it of course weights a good amount more, and it has an unsealed freecoaster, whereas the Metric has a better sealed one).

But thanks for your opinion! (You are actually the first person to post a reply that is actually on topic in a while, hehe.) If I suddenly find some reviews or something on the Metric and it's a bad bike I'll probably go with the Signal.