Utility Cycling - Hauling Dogs

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Zero_Enigma
04-22-07, 09:48 PM
That's not bad. If you attached the body harness at the bottom to the bottom of the mess bag it might be even better. But, I understand putting a hole in the mess bag might be a drawback. He might want to jump out after another animal.

I use a seat belt (body) harness here fastened at the bottom under his chest. I put a swivel on it so he can turn around. He can't get out but can stand, sit, and lie down.

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/9020/hpim6840baileyintrikegocy1.jpg

Is that Bailey's water dish behind him? Awwww...I lubs the Bailey!! We need some video of Bailey in action. BTW, Bailey for president! Woof woof, woooooooooooooooof wo wo wooof!


2manybikes
04-23-07, 06:38 AM
Is that Bailey's water dish behind him? Awwww...I lubs the Bailey!! We need some video of Bailey in action. BTW, Bailey for president! Woof woof, woooooooooooooooof wo wo wooof!

Yep that's for water and snacks. It turns out to be a big pain to undo the harness and put him on the ground for a fast drink or a snack. I have to be super carefull I have a lousy back. It makes a fast drink stop much easier and faster. And it does not spill into the trike when it is hanging off the back.
I don't remember if you saw any of his videos (not on the trike). The Youtube search engine should find them if you search
"2manybikes" or " Bailey Corgi Dog". There's maybe six (?) videos.

It's just getting nice here now, I will record him on a trike ride soon. Haven't decided how to do that exactly. Aim camera back while riding? I have a nice mini tripod that will attach to the bike anywhere.
Just thought of that now.

BTW it is totally hilarious if we are riding in the dark and another rider is nearby or coming up from the back. They REALLY don't expect a loud bark to come from something moving along. :D Passing someone is even worse. :D I need to video that too. :D

acroy
04-23-07, 08:44 AM
awww man i opened this thread thinking this was about cyclists booting nasty yippy small dogs... dissapointed.


Zeuser
04-23-07, 08:48 AM
Please don't do this:

http://www.dauray.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/pet_bag.jpg

At least one thing seems to be consistent among all races: Pretty girls are often the dumbest.

donnamb
04-23-07, 10:58 AM
awww man i opened this thread thinking this was about cyclists booting nasty yippy small dogs... dissapointed.
I think you're looking for the thread about people booting nasty cyclists who like to hurt dogs, dude. Try the search function.

2manybikes
04-23-07, 03:48 PM
I think you're looking for the thread about people booting nasty cyclists who like to hurt dogs, dude. Try the search function.

:roflmao:

Zero_Enigma
04-23-07, 04:29 PM
Yep that's for water and snacks. It turns out to be a big pain to undo the harness and put him on the ground for a fast drink or a snack. I have to be super carefull I have a lousy back. It makes a fast drink stop much easier and faster. And it does not spill into the trike when it is hanging off the back.
I don't remember if you saw any of his videos (not on the trike). The Youtube search engine should find them if you search
"2manybikes" or " Bailey Corgi Dog". There's maybe six (?) videos.

It's just getting nice here now, I will record him on a trike ride soon. Haven't decided how to do that exactly. Aim camera back while riding? I have a nice mini tripod that will attach to the bike anywhere.
Just thought of that now.

BTW it is totally hilarious if we are riding in the dark and another rider is nearby or coming up from the back. They REALLY don't expect a loud bark to come from something moving along. :D Passing someone is even worse. :D I need to video that too. :D

I'll try to remember to check YouTube but I tend to forget such stuff. I thought that waterdish was ready for Bailey to drink from while riding so he can be super relax and chilling in the backseat with a drink and shades on. Now you have to train him to wave a paw to all the ladies jogging and you're set. :D Come to think of it, a dog in the backseat is pretty cool. Looks better if you actually (not sure if you did already) make a rear gun turret for Bailey. Also a dog on a bike is good bio-security to a degree from having people want to steal your bike. Well some dogs probably won't do jack other then be a good audio alarm but some will jump the burgler if you can train them.

BTW what is the max size dog if you wanted a "tail gunner" (my new term for dogs in the backseat! :D ) on a bike that won't upset the balance of the bike when turning and such? I used to own an Airdale but she passed on two years ago. :( She was about ~50-55lbs. I'm thinking of raising another Airdale when the time comes and the bike thing really is interesting. Puppies are always chick magnets!

Zero_Enigma
04-23-07, 04:32 PM
At least one thing seems to be consistent among all races: Pretty girls are often the dumbest.

Not sure but that dog probably weights like ~7lbs I think. I never owned a toy dog before. I don't think the harness would hurt the dog of that size/weight as the pooch is not that heavy to cause harm. I'm sure it was just a snap shot of a moment she had the pooch up. I'm sure most poeple would have thier dogs walking on the ground and only carry them temporary/momentary to board a bus/call/etc.

le brad
04-23-07, 05:06 PM
At least one thing seems to be consistent among all races: Pretty girls are often the dumbest.

sexist and racist! good show.

2manybikes
04-23-07, 05:35 PM
I'll try to remember to check YouTube but I tend to forget such stuff. I thought that waterdish was ready for Bailey to drink from while riding so he can be super relax and chilling in the backseat with a drink and shades on. Now you have to train him to wave a paw to all the ladies jogging and you're set. :D Come to think of it, a dog in the backseat is pretty cool. Looks better if you actually (not sure if you did already) make a rear gun turret for Bailey. Also a dog on a bike is good bio-security to a degree from having people want to steal your bike. Well some dogs probably won't do jack other then be a good audio alarm but some will jump the burgler if you can train them.

BTW what is the max size dog if you wanted a "tail gunner" (my new term for dogs in the backseat! :D ) on a bike that won't upset the balance of the bike when turning and such? I used to own an Airdale but she passed on two years ago. :( She was about ~50-55lbs. I'm thinking of raising another Airdale when the time comes and the bike thing really is interesting. Puppies are always chick magnets!


New Video all done! :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMLQY4LlXFs Bark and Roll !

The trike is easier to carry a heavy load that moves around than a bike. Especailly when going slow in close heavy traffic. Bailey is about 34 lbs. I have seen another Corgi in a rear basket on a bike that looks as if the dog is a little heavier. Not sure. The trike basket is wide and Bailey can rush to one side to see something, the weight really shifts. I don't think a 50 lb tailguner would work. That much on the rear rack and the bike will want to do a wheelie. But the rear rack tail gunner had a narrow basket, maybe that is better.

I think you would need a kid trailer. Maybe an Extra cycle would be OK for a two wheeler.

I should put a little parasol in Baileys basket like a tropical drink. :)

tailgunner...good name.

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/2273/img4464smalljo3.jpg

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4553/bowlforfoodandwaterwithdu1.jpg

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6757/dangerousdogpg7.jpg

donnamb
04-23-07, 09:43 PM
At least one thing seems to be consistent among all races: Pretty girls are often the dumbest.
Moronic men who really have a talent for opening mouth and inserting foot also seem to know no racial or ethnic barrier. How egalitarian. :)

Zeuser
04-24-07, 12:33 PM
sexist and racist! good show.

Stereotypes often have roots in reality. :p

Which is one reason all those "dumb blonde" jokes are so funny; they're not too far fetched. Asians don't have blondes, they have the next best thing: the dumb pretty girl.... as shown in that pic.

Zeuser
04-24-07, 12:39 PM
Moronic men who really have a talent for opening mouth and inserting foot also seem to know no racial or ethnic barrier. How egalitarian. :)

Well, join the party. You're sexist, and you put your foot in your mouth too, so you're not too far off, :rolleyes:
DUMBASS!

donnamb
04-24-07, 02:04 PM
All of this may be true, Zeuser, and you are certainly entitled to your own opinions, as am I. I just want to take the time to extend my gratitude to you for making this forum a welcoming and positive place for the 5% of forum members who are women. I'm also particularly appreciative that you're doing your part to contribute to the sort of environment that makes women want to register here as a member and participate. Believe me, statements like the one you made yesterday really go a long way to make women feel like you and the other guys want us around. Thanks!
:beer:

Zeuser
04-24-07, 02:17 PM
Now you're really being a feminist. You know... there are plenty of dumb good looking men as well. It just happens that the pic was of a dumb pretty looking girl that's all.

Don't be a hypocrite. Everyone's a sexist and a racist in some shape or form. Anybody who denies it is living in a dreamworld. The important thing is to not turn your sexism and racism into fanatism. Being PC (Politically Correct) shouldn't obstruct someone's right to free speach. So long as said "free speach" isn't "hate speach", then it should be allowed. I don't believe any of my comments have so far qualified as hate speach, so I'm doing just fine.

I'm sorry if you somehow feel offended by my remarks but... you know... freedom of speach. If you want free speach, you'll have to tolerate someone else's free speach that goes contrary to yours. That's the price to pay!

And I don't think my remarks have anything to do with keeping females from joining the forum. You're drawing conclusions based on non-relevant facts.

Unlike you, I welcome all types of comments and remarks and won't try to suppress someone else's free speach because I somehow feel it will keep "my kind" from joining the forum.

That being said, go ahead and say what you want. Your perfectly entitled to do it.

devildogmech
04-24-07, 02:25 PM
Those look cool! I have a 7# mini pin... I take her for a walk, and after a mile she wants me to cary her.... what a woose. Yep, Lucy is the only daughter my wife is going to get!

Snow_canuck
04-24-07, 03:51 PM
Great ideas and a great read. Thanks to all!

CliftonGK1
04-24-07, 04:02 PM
I don't think a 50 lb tailguner would work. That much on the rear rack and the bike will want to do a wheelie. But the rear rack tail gunner had a narrow basket, maybe that is better.

I think you would need a kid trailer.

I'm working with my puppy (ASCII, an 8 month old, 55 pound ridgeback mix who will get to about 65 pounds) so that she's not afraid of being around bikes, in hopes that I can haul her around on a Burley flatbed trailer in the future when she calms down a bit. There's no way I'd want her weight up high on the bike while riding.

surfshark
05-13-07, 10:13 AM
I've been searching the forum and can't find anything. Who out there takes your dog on rides? Do you have a basket or carrier? I have a 24lb Boston Terrier who loves to cruise on anything with wheels and I'm trying to find a way to take her. Thanks for any info.

AllenG
05-13-07, 10:17 AM
Cynthia's Twigs (http://www.cynthiastwigs.com/)
Pet Cruiser (http://www.midnightpassproducts.com/petcruiser/)
and
2manybikes (http://www.bikeforums.net/member.php?u=6007) a member here, owned by his dog (like any good dog person), Bailey.

velogirls
05-13-07, 10:17 AM
I've tried a number of alternatives before finally finding the right solution for me and my dog (25 pound cavalier king charles spaniel).

When she was a puppy she fit in my jersey pocket. Then we progressed to a front-pack. That didn't work because I had to splay my knees to pedal. So then I got a clamp-on basket for the front. 20 pounds of dog on the handlebar makes for poor bike handling. So then we tried a BOB trailer. I didn't like her being so low behind me. The final solution (and the one we've been using for almost two years) was to zip-tie a milk crate onto the rear rack of my touring bike. She loves it, I can touch and see her, and her weight doesn't effect the bike handling (except when she gets too excited about seeing a squirrel). About a year ago I had a custom rack made my Joesph Ahearns that includes a tubular basket with a wood panelled floor to replace the milk crate.

ItsJustMe
05-14-07, 06:43 AM
Shaun, the guy on Cool Fuels on the Science Channel, seems to have some kind of open-top backpack for Sparky, his terrier. He rides everything from electric bikes up to electric choppers with him on the back on the show.

CliftonGK1
05-14-07, 09:28 AM
Guy in the cube next to me has an 18 pound English Jack Russell which rides in a milk crate strapped to the CETMA front rack on his bike.

(I've got a 55 pound Ridgeback puppy, and I'm hoping by end of summer to acclimate her to riding on a flatbed trailer. She's way too big for any rack.)

godspiral
05-14-07, 09:51 AM
Front basket was awesome for my 12lb ****zu. I'd put her in a backpack inside the basket. Also carried her in a backpack on my chest when she was smaller.

vrkelley
05-14-07, 09:53 AM
2ManyBikes, 2ManyBikes, Come-in 2ManyBikes

Artkansas
05-14-07, 01:37 PM
I've carried my ex-wife's JRT in a large backpack worn on the front. It could just get it's front paws on the lip of the bag; was delighted with the view; and jumping out was not an easy option for it. The pack was the style with a flap and a drawstring.

2manybikes
05-14-07, 03:42 PM
2ManyBikes, 2ManyBikes, Come-in 2ManyBikes

HAHAHA. :D

sshhhhhwwweedsshhhccc. *static* ......... hello hello? 10-4 vrkelley thank you.

Either I'm loosing it or this is a cross post from somewhere else. I responded to the first one.
Or..I did respond to another and I'm losing it anyway. ?

edit: I did, it was this one... http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=297765 Bailey is there already. And hungry.



2manybikes a member here, owned by his dog (like any good dog person), Bailey

Well said ! I refer to myself now as "Bailey's human". http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7460/smilewithearsandwoofgo6.jpghttp://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7460/smilewithearsandwoofgo6.jpg

surfshark- not supposed to cross post. One thread for the one question.

ralph12
05-16-07, 12:19 PM
Does anyone have any suggestions for a cheap bike/tricycle that could be used to transport a dog and/or cat, say to the vet's office or other places they may have to go? It's preferable if they aren't kept low to the ground, but either in front or in back at about the same level the driver of the cycle is at.

Icycle
05-16-07, 04:05 PM
Does anyone have any suggestions for a cheap bike/tricycle that could be used to transport a dog and/or cat, say to the vet's office or other places they may have to go? It's preferable if they aren't kept low to the ground, but either in front or in back at about the same level the driver of the cycle is at.

How big are your animals? If they are very small, you could probably put them in a handlebar basket or some kind of carrier attached to your rear rack.

An adult tricycle typically has a large basket behind the seat that could accomodate a small to medium sized dog.

Here's one example of such a tricycle:

http://www.bikemania.biz/Tri_Rider_6_Speed_24_Inch_Adult_Tricycle_p/belize_tririder.htm

An Xtracycle has more cargo space than your typical bicycle, probably enough to accomodate a small to medium sized dog:

http://www.xtracycle.com/

Beyond that there are a large variety of cargo bikes, HPVs, and trailers that can carry animals of just about any size.

Dutch-style Bakfiets: http://clevercycles.com/blog/?p=184
Bilenky Cargo Bike: http://www.bilenky.com/prod42.html
Long Haul: http://www.catoregon.org/hpm/longhaul.htm
Tri-Hauler (600 lb capacity!): http://www.catoregon.org/hpm/trihaul.htm
Bikes at Work Trailers: http://www.bikesatwork.com/bike-trailers/

vrkelley
05-16-07, 10:24 PM
ha ha! She was hoping for 2Tube demo instructions

2manybikes
05-17-07, 07:27 AM
ha ha! She was hoping for 2Tube demo instructions


:roflmao: :roflmao:

Do it yourself home videos from 2tube! :lol:
Available now on CD.
Send $19.95 to 2manybikes c/o BikeForums.

Tailight repair and flashing helmet light ideas that don't work.

Eco-warrior
05-17-07, 09:42 AM
http://www.burley.com/products/tailwagon.html

Other than an xtracycle, tricycle, or what Icycle mentioned, there are always trailers that are either specifically made for animal transport or that can be used to do the job. If none of the above works out for you, start asking around for a custom. I'm sure some people around here can help you out.

dwainedibbly
05-17-07, 10:40 AM
Check out the Nashbar Toto basket. (Not sure if 24 pounds would be too much for it, though.) I think they're on sale. My wife has talked about taking one of our cats for rides and I'm trying to convince her to get this basket.

deputyjones
05-17-07, 11:12 AM
http://www.burley.com/products/tailwagon.html

Other than an xtracycle, tricycle, or what Icycle mentioned, there are always trailers that are either specifically made for animal transport or that can be used to do the job. If none of the above works out for you, start asking around for a custom. I'm sure some people around here can help you out.

Yup, this or just a flat bed type trailer with a kennel strapped to it.

CommuterRun
05-17-07, 06:00 PM
Cats just don't feel safe on a bicycle, no matter how much duct tape you use.

kjohnnytarr
05-17-07, 07:13 PM
It's my dream in life to retire at 60 and have a coasterbrake cruiser-bike with a koozie for my beer on the bars and a sidecar for my dog. Maybe not what you're looking for; just a light note.

vrkelley
05-17-07, 08:29 PM
How do you keep the dog from hopping out after cats and squirrels?

poopypants
05-17-07, 11:33 PM
Hi,
I have a 18 pound pug and I take him in a topeak rear rack with the clip in basket that comes with. To start with I put him in the basket and would walk next to the bike in circles in the back yard telling him to sit, and when he stood giving him an "ah ah" ... each half circle around our tiny back yard he'd get a tiny piece of treat.

I did it every afternoon for a week, progressing in a session to giving him one treat after one full circle around the yard, and progressing through the week until we did it for about 10 minutes .. then we tried it out on the bike paths.

He was good with my wife behind keeping an eye on him and making sure he remained seated, but on the third trip out he saw some ducks and jumped from the basket to chase them. He didn't realise how high up he was and it almost turned him off biking ... I think the fall scared him enough that he won't do it again, but rather than take a chance I put a harness on him and have a piece of rope tied to the basket and a carabiner that clips to his harness. Give him enough room to move around but not enough to get out of the basket.

He's been pretty good since then though. He gets bored if the ride goes too long so mainly I just do it to get to some of the dog parks that are too far for him to walk. He is pretty lazy.

seeker333
05-18-07, 03:22 AM
You probably need more dog to justify this rig:

http://www.burley.com/products/tailwagon.html

Hoofer
05-25-07, 05:32 PM
Bike worked great for a 300 mile tour back in March. Enough of a spectacle to get in the paper. Who could leave a pooch like this at home? A little longer tour planned for next month.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z16/jninke/100_0029.jpg

ralph12
06-02-07, 02:34 PM
I posted a thread here a long time back about a cycle for transporting animals. I sorta forgot about it though, but anyway I came across a basket on Amazon.com that looks like it would be very good. It's big enough to put a carrier my dog and cat could fit in (not at the same time) in, according to the measurements.

http://www.amazon.com/Wald-Delivery-Bicycle-Basket-Chrome/dp/B000F7QBAQ/ref=sr_1_11/104-4906787-7894356?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1180816317&sr=1-11

That's the basket. It seems like a really good price, but I can't really tell if I need to have a front rack to mount it to. I'm sure some people here will know though.

Thanks for any info

Fredmertz51
06-02-07, 04:59 PM
No, but it is designed to fit on bolt-on hubs, if you've got QR it may take some finageling.

Artkansas
06-04-07, 11:55 AM
It's like Fred said. No rack, but made for bolt on hubs. I suppose if you had eyelets, you might be able to install them to the eyelet.


Those Wald baskets will take a lot of abuse. I had them on my bike as a kid, though I preferred their rear metal panniers. Weight on the front makes steering more difficult.

Lamplight
06-04-07, 12:11 PM
I use that very basket for groceries. No rack needed, but yes it is designed for nutted axles. I mounted mine a little higher on the fork using a split pipe clamp designed for plumbing applications. Not ideal but it works well enough to hold quite a bit of weight. Although riding with that much weight on the front wheel that high up can be sketchy.

ralph12
06-09-07, 06:49 PM
Thanks guys. I decided to go with a rear-rack mounted basket instead, although if I ever get a bike with a bolt-on front wheel (I had a beach cruiser with one briefly, but the handlebars limited my steering to the point where turning became a little too thrilling and I ended up returning it) I'll probably get that one for it. I really like the ability to carry a lot.

solveg
06-16-07, 06:21 AM
cycletote.com The dog trailer. Best I've ever seen.

edx74
06-20-07, 02:44 PM
I have seen devices that advertise how your dog can run alongside your bike without getting too close or pulling you off balance, but I am extremely skeptical. Even if this solution is effective, it doesn't work so well if your pup is sick and is on the way to the vet.

My wife and I are selling one of our two cars. After a rash of parking and hidden-camera speeding tickets (in Washington, DC - where tickets are a primary form of revenue), I got towed from a business I was patronizing this morning. That was pretty much the final straw in my mind that owning a car is too much hassle in the city. The Metro and bus are close enough, there's a ZipCar station nearby and I bike to work frequently.

The only thing to keep us from taking the final plunge is figuring out a way to transport the dogs. They are 55 and 65 pounds, so they don't exactly fit in your carry-on bag. Baxter, the 55-pounder, is 8 years old and starting to show some signs of age. He is still getting over a broken paw from about 4 months ago. What solutions have other users found for taking the dogs from point A to point B?

swwhite
06-20-07, 03:30 PM
You could purchase/make a flat-bed trailer and haul a dog crate.

On vacation in Colorado I saw a great little scene. I was in a little sidewalk seating area eating an ice cream cone when along came a guy on a bike towing a kid trailer. He stopped for something (coffee, ice cream, I forget) and out of the trailer popped a dog and sat down next to him. They guy finished what he was doing and said something to the dog, and the dog hopped back into the trailer and away they went. So that approach is theoretically possible, depending on the dog.

Bikepacker67
06-20-07, 03:33 PM
Burley makes a "Tail Wagon" (http://www.burley.com/products/tailwagon.html)

acroy
06-20-07, 03:40 PM
have them pull you!! :)