MediaCreations
07-05-03, 06:41 PM
Even with a puncture in the last 400 metres, Australian Brad McGee is in Yellow.
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shaharidan
07-05-03, 06:47 PM
he did a fantastic job :)
Portent
07-06-03, 07:30 AM
Brad McGee was lucky, David Millar would of won it had it not been for his chain. Give credit where credits due.
MediaCreations
07-06-03, 07:40 AM
..... and Brad McGee would have been faster if he didn't have a puncture in the last 400 metres.
Sounds like sour grapes to me.
Whatever the sport there is always a variety of factors that dictate the ultimate winner.
The winner needs to be fit, on form on the day, their equipment must work properly and there are a range of other factors that go into the event to decide the winner.
Yes, Millar probably would have won, but who knows. You can't second guess a result like that.
If McGee didn't punture and Millar didn't have chain problems they would probably still have got 1 and 2 in whatever order so obviously both did a fantastic job. No one was 'lucky', both rode an outstanding prologue.
Maybe you should give credit where it's due.
Sounds like sour grapes to me.
Whatever the sport there is always a variety of factors that dictate the ultimate winner.
The winner needs to be fit, on form on the day, their equipment must work properly and there are a range of other factors that go into the event to decide the winner.
Yes, Millar probably would have won, but who knows. You can't second guess a result like that.
If McGee didn't punture and Millar didn't have chain problems they would probably still have got 1 and 2 in whatever order so obviously both did a fantastic job. No one was 'lucky', both rode an outstanding prologue.
Maybe you should give credit where it's due.
shaharidan
07-06-03, 09:32 AM
we are giving credit where credit is due, he won we gave him credit.
no one is taking anything away from Millar's effort.
no one is taking anything away from Millar's effort.
SamDaBikinMan
07-06-03, 09:32 AM
I like McGee. He is a very talented racer.
Millar is the master of bad luck it seems. But still manages an impressive ride by any measure.
I'd hate to be TT racing on those cobbled streets.
Millar is the master of bad luck it seems. But still manages an impressive ride by any measure.
I'd hate to be TT racing on those cobbled streets.
SamDaBikinMan
07-06-03, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Portent
Brad McGee was lucky, David Millar would of won it had it not been for his chain. Give credit where credits due.
Stop snivelling, there are over 2000 miles left to compare Millar to McGee. After it is all over then we will see who was more capable. Nuff said.
Brad McGee was lucky, David Millar would of won it had it not been for his chain. Give credit where credits due.
Stop snivelling, there are over 2000 miles left to compare Millar to McGee. After it is all over then we will see who was more capable. Nuff said.
brent_dube
07-06-03, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Portent
Brad McGee was lucky, David Millar would of won it had it not been for his chain. Give credit where credits due.
maybe McGee had heavier, more reliable equipment? ;)
Its part of racing. Make sure your equipment works. Give credit to those who always seem to keep away from that bad 'luck'.
Brad McGee was lucky, David Millar would of won it had it not been for his chain. Give credit where credits due.
maybe McGee had heavier, more reliable equipment? ;)
Its part of racing. Make sure your equipment works. Give credit to those who always seem to keep away from that bad 'luck'.
Portent
07-06-03, 12:43 PM
Okay fair enough, Brad McGee wasn't lucky, he did put alot of effort into it. Its just it was cruel to see what happened to David Millar. However I think I would of got a different reaction if I said this in person so as you could of seen my facial expression and heard the tone of my voice.
shaharidan
07-06-03, 12:50 PM
it is a shame when things like that happen, it was pretty cool the way he corrected the problem.
i'm sure millar will have some great days on the tour too.
if you can call 2nd in the pro log a bad day no matter what the circumstances :).
i'm sure millar will have some great days on the tour too.
if you can call 2nd in the pro log a bad day no matter what the circumstances :).
MediaCreations
07-06-03, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by Portent
However I think I would of got a different reaction if I said this in person so as you could of seen my facial expression and heard the tone of my voice.
It's impossible to get the tone of a post from a page of typing. That's why we have these friendly little fellows.:D;)
Of course I only realised after starting the thread that I shouldn't have put any hint of a result in the title.:eek:
Some people hate seeing spoilers in the titles.:mad:
Cheers:cool:
However I think I would of got a different reaction if I said this in person so as you could of seen my facial expression and heard the tone of my voice.
It's impossible to get the tone of a post from a page of typing. That's why we have these friendly little fellows.:D;)
Of course I only realised after starting the thread that I shouldn't have put any hint of a result in the title.:eek:
Some people hate seeing spoilers in the titles.:mad:
Cheers:cool:
Jaimie65
07-06-03, 07:36 PM
Millar was obviously primed for the prologue as was McGee as was Ullrich (I'm on the band wagon at least to the first Cat. 1 climb) but apparently LA was not very happy with his seventh placing. Botero looks ok too.
There is a story running round that up to five Cofidis bikes had mechanical problems in the prologue - apparently the bikes aren't fully rigged with the Campy stuff due to some contractual issue between Campy and Cofidis.
Big crashes happen in big races - it is a shame that anyone gets hurt anytime but that is part of the risk of the sport.
There is a story running round that up to five Cofidis bikes had mechanical problems in the prologue - apparently the bikes aren't fully rigged with the Campy stuff due to some contractual issue between Campy and Cofidis.
Big crashes happen in big races - it is a shame that anyone gets hurt anytime but that is part of the risk of the sport.
NZLcyclist
07-06-03, 11:02 PM
How did Milar deal with the puncture? I'm looking for some good coverage of TdF!
Brendon
Brendon
bfb2003
07-06-03, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by Portent
Brad McGee was lucky, David Millar would of won it had it not been for his chain.
of course you can be hypothetical as you want, but you would then need to assume that he hadn't faded badly in the second half anyway.
Is he really that much better than the rest of the field to be 5 seconds in front at the half way stage and still be able to come home strongly ?
Brad McGee was lucky, David Millar would of won it had it not been for his chain.
of course you can be hypothetical as you want, but you would then need to assume that he hadn't faded badly in the second half anyway.
Is he really that much better than the rest of the field to be 5 seconds in front at the half way stage and still be able to come home strongly ?
don d.
07-06-03, 11:14 PM
Millar didn't puncture. Millar's chain derailled from his frt. chainring. He dealt with it by bending down and picking it up and putting it back on the chainring while riding. Then he came out in the press and blasted Alain Bondue, the team manager for not having the proper equipment. McGee had a flat/slow leak in the last 400 meters.
All this info is at <www.cyclingnews.com>. They also have live coverage.
All this info is at <www.cyclingnews.com>. They also have live coverage.
don d.
07-06-03, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by bfb2003
Is he really that much better than the rest of the field to be 5 seconds in front at the half way stage and still be able to come home strongly ?
Millar was the favorite to win, and he has made it onto the podium at the World Championship TT.
Is he really that much better than the rest of the field to be 5 seconds in front at the half way stage and still be able to come home strongly ?
Millar was the favorite to win, and he has made it onto the podium at the World Championship TT.
cabledonut
07-07-03, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by bfb2003
Is he really that much better than the rest of the field to be 5 seconds in front at the half way stage and still be able to come home strongly ?
yes!
all it needed was a front derailleur to keep the chain on. a bit of an amateurish decision to leave one off. whoever's decision that was. alain bondue was apparently responsible for the lack of campag equipment, ie, chainrings for the cofidis bikes. makes no difference what make chainrings the team had on their bikes, if david's bike had a front derailleur on it that chain would have stayed on. simple as.
Is he really that much better than the rest of the field to be 5 seconds in front at the half way stage and still be able to come home strongly ?
yes!
all it needed was a front derailleur to keep the chain on. a bit of an amateurish decision to leave one off. whoever's decision that was. alain bondue was apparently responsible for the lack of campag equipment, ie, chainrings for the cofidis bikes. makes no difference what make chainrings the team had on their bikes, if david's bike had a front derailleur on it that chain would have stayed on. simple as.