Foo - Another wrestler dead.

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aadhils
06-26-07, 09:26 AM
My guess is it's all the roids in their system that drives em insane...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/06/25/wrestler.dead.ap/index.html?cnn=yes
KingTermite
06-26-07, 09:28 AM
And the last wrestler who "died" was making announcements about this one....I saw a clip on news with Vince McMahon saying something like "we have nothing but warm condolences for the family...".
the question is....."HOW MANY MORE....HOW MANY MORE MUST DIE?"
Benoit. He's been around. Muder-suicide... wow.
efrobert
06-26-07, 10:25 AM
That's crazy, I heard about this yesterday.
timmhaan
06-26-07, 10:35 AM
damn...killed his wife and son first. that's effed up.
avmanansala
06-26-07, 12:14 PM
Tragic.
Why do these guys get this backwards, you're supposed to hang yourself first, THEN go for the others.
aikigreg
06-26-07, 01:07 PM
Wow......You wouldn't have expected it from Benoit - it's not like he's new to this or anything, he's been on the circuit forever. Roid rage is a total myth by the way.
Maelstrom
06-26-07, 01:11 PM
Roid rage isn't a total myth. It isn't completely true either as symtoms effect different people in different ways but the testosterone completely screws with your emotions and how you can deal with them. Especially prolonged usage without proper cycling. (not biking)
Maelstrom
06-26-07, 01:12 PM
Oh and bummer. I always thought he was a good guy. He "seemed" like one of the true professionals. I wonder if the guerrero incident had a lasting affect on his physcy...
Oh and bummer. I always thought he was a good guy. He "seemed" like one of the true professionals. I wonder if the guerrero incident had a lasting affect on his physcy...
Wouldn't doubt it. Details are still sketchy, but the reports I've been hearing are all f'd up. Totally out of character according to his friends / co-workers
RC_spinner
06-26-07, 07:24 PM
Anyone hear believe the WWE didnt know what happend in that house BEFORE they went ahead with a tribute show for that psycho last night? They gave Beniot the same treatment they gave Eddie when he died.
Here is the topper: HHH rolls on camera talking about how Beniot commanded and got respect, yadda yadda yadda, then to end his euelgy, he says " I respect you, Chris" REALLY???? WWE let the star of their brand name go on TV and say that he respects a killer???
I only watch WWE on a passing basis, maybe 15 minutes of RAW a month, but if Vince Mcmahon is gonna try to make a buck off a murderer like that, then I'm out on WWE for good
Anyone hear believe the WWE didnt know what happend in that house BEFORE they went ahead with a tribute show for that psycho last night? I do. They had the same information all of us had. They may have had suspicions, as I did, but there was no way to know without official comment from law enforcement which came this afternoon
They gave Beniot the same treatment they gave Eddie when he died.
Here is the topper: HHH rolls on camera talking about how Beniot commanded and got respect, yadda yadda yadda, then to end his euelgy, he says " I respect you, Chris" REALLY???? WWE let the star of their brand name go on TV and say that he respects a killer???Again it wasn't KNOWN that he did it, hell CNN didn't even cover it yesterday, I found out about it from RAW, and then looked it up online. Vince McMahon had some interesting comments at the start of the ECW show tonight in which he backed off the tribute from last night due to the new information that has come to light. All of Benoit's merchandise has been pulled from the site (and I'm sure by now the stores) If he was trying to make a buck you wouldn't see that
I only watch WWE on a passing basis, maybe 15 minutes of RAW a month, but if Vince Mcmahon is gonna try to make a buck off a murderer like that, then I'm out on WWE for good
Rest assured, despite his on screen character, Vince is a class act.
mastershake916
06-26-07, 07:53 PM
Holy ****.
bikingshearer
06-26-07, 08:19 PM
Roid rage is a total myth by the way.
You obviously never followed Bill Romanowski's NFL career.
scottmorrison99
06-26-07, 10:11 PM
You obviously never followed Bill Romanowski's NFL career.
No kidding. Did you see how small Romanowski is now that he is off steroids?
Nicodemus
06-27-07, 02:53 AM
wow. Benoit, that is kind of surprising.
slowandsteady
06-27-07, 09:22 AM
Why do these guys get this backwards, you're supposed to hang yourself first, THEN go for the others.
the reason people do this is due to arrogance and self-centeredness. They are so egocentric that they truly believe their "loved" ones are better off dead than without them.
Maelstrom
06-27-07, 09:41 AM
You obviously never followed Bill Romanowski's NFL career.
Amongst many others as well. Depends on type, volume and cycles, but it does give the rage. I saw an entire defensive line on a highschool football team turn from partying highschool kids, to violent offenders very very quickly.
Maelstrom
06-27-07, 09:42 AM
No kidding. Did you see how small Romanowski is now that he is off steroids?
While still not a pinner, definately much smaller. They had him on pros vs joes and it was shcoking how small he was. Good for him for being able to drop it. I couldn't imagine dropping 50pounds in solid muscle and still being a happy man.
Tom Stormcrowe
06-27-07, 01:24 PM
[color=blue]Rest assured, despite his on screen character, Vince is a class act.
That he is....his onscreen persona is nothing more than that, a persona, with huge comic book attributes. All that is is marketing 101!;)
Michigander
06-27-07, 02:08 PM
Track marks in his 7 year old sons arm. What a sick ****er.
Makes me really glad he's gone. But I feel very sorry for his kid and wife.
USAZorro
06-27-07, 05:33 PM
You people actually watch that tripe?
Michigander
06-27-07, 05:34 PM
Nope. Not in 9 years.
Maelstrom
06-27-07, 05:58 PM
You people actually watch that tripe?
Not in a few years. With the job I have I am sometimes a big fan of the mindless. Wreslting did fill that. (that and memories of my grandad) Now I watch UFC haha
USAZorro
06-27-07, 06:24 PM
... Now I watch UFC haha
* lays forehead into open hand with closed eyes and slight head shaking motion and a sigh *
You people actually watch that tripe?
Best stunt people in the world.
Michigander
06-27-07, 07:51 PM
Best stunt people in the world.
I must beg to differ. I think jackass fills that niche.
I must beg to differ. I think jackass fills that niche.
No, there's a difference between stuntman and moron. Those jackass idiots put themselves in unsafe situations, and get themselves hurt. While a wrestler may take a bump or two the matches are fully choreographed and steps are undertaken to ensure their safety. They aren't sticking baby alligators on their nuts or cramming Hotwheels cars in their rectums
lyeinyoureye
06-30-07, 04:20 PM
the reason people do this is due to arrogance and self-centeredness. They are so egocentric that they truly believe their "loved" ones are better off dead than without them.
Yes. Precisely. This reason and only this reason. Never any other reasons...
pedalMonger
06-30-07, 04:46 PM
You people actually watch that tripe?
Hi, my name's pedalMonger, and I am a recovering wrestling-aholic.
It all started long ago, when I was clicking through the TV channels, and came across a wrestling match featuring Dick the Bruiser (http://www.wrestlingmuseum.com/pages/wrestlers/dickthebruiser2.html)...
Maelstrom
06-30-07, 07:37 PM
* lays forehead into open hand with closed eyes and slight head shaking motion and a sigh *
Hey I like violence. I used to be a big sports fan, but for the most part it has left me pretty bored over the years. UFC and Pride get my competetive juices flowing again.
cydewaze
06-30-07, 09:01 PM
This is spooky:
Wikipedia Reported Wrestler's Wife Dead Before Bodies Found
According to Wikinews, an online news source connected to Wikipedia, the Internet protocol address of the individual is identical to that of the user who edited Benoit's profile early Monday morning. An IP address is a unique series of numbers carried by every machine connected to the Internet.
Benoit's page on Wikipedia, a reference site that allows users to add and edit information, was updated at 12:01 a.m. Monday, about 14 hours before authorities say the bodies were found. The reason he missed a match Saturday night was "stemming from the death of his wife Nancy," it said.
more... (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/13595837/detail.html?rss=den&psp=news)
This is spooky:
Wikipedia Reported Wrestler's Wife Dead Before Bodies Found
It's not spooky, it's old news.
http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Death_of_Nancy_Benoit_rumour_posted_on_Wikipedia_hours_prior_to_body_being_foun d&diff=449245&oldid=449236
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/story?id=3327310&page=1
Police: Wiki Confession an 'Unbelievable Hindrance'
Computers Tied to Wikipedia Posting About Nancy Benoit Seized by Authorities
By DAVID SCHOETZ
June 29, 2007 —
A Wikipedia posting about the death of pro wrestler Chris Benoit's wife that preceded the discovery of the Benoit family's bodies has become a major obstacle in the murder-suicide criminal investigation, authorities told ABC News.
"It is unbelievable what a hindrance this has put on our investigation," said Lt. Tommy Pope, a spokesman for the Fayette County, Ga., Sheriff's Department.
"We've got to put a lot of effort and time into working to prove or disprove that someone put up a hoax situation or that somebody was conceiving the death from out of state," Pope said, adding that investigators have been flooded with tips regarding a Web posting that's very likely a bizarre coincidence.
Police have traced the Wikipedia posting and subsequent anonymous confession and apology to an IP address in Connecticut. Pope said local authorities there are working with his department and have seized computer equipment from the person responsible for the postings.
"We know who the person is," Pope said, adding that police wouldn't reveal his or her identity until early next week. By then they hope to have determined whether the person was implicated in what police earlier this week called a double murder-homicide.
If the person had knowledge of the death before police discovered the body, he or she could face criminal charges.
The anonymous Wikipedia poster confessed early this morning to changing the entry for professional wrestler Chris Benoit to mention that his wife was dead -- 14 hours before the police had even discovered the bodies of Benoit, his wife and 7-year-old son, Daniel.
The confession, which was posted on Wikinews, came from the same IP address, traced to Stamford, Conn., from which the eerie posting about the pro wrestler's wife was made, an administrator for Wikinews confirmed. The WWE is based in Stamford.
"I am not connected to WWE or Benoit at all in any way," the poster wrote, describing himself or herself as an "everyday" individual, confirming a Connecticut residency, and claiming that the prescient entry was an unfortunate coincidence.
"I hope this puts an end to this speculation that someone knew about the tragedy before it was discovered," the Wikipedia user wrote.
Wikinews is the user-generated news site that falls under the same nonprofit Wikimedia Foundation as Wikipedia, the user-generated encyclopedia.
ABC News attempted to contact a person identified in a Wikipedia entry about Naugatuck, Conn., that came from the same IP Web address that police are now investigating. That person flatly denied any involvement with the posting related to Benoit and his wife's death.
The original Wikipedia posting that touched off the controversy began at 12:01 a.m. EDT on Monday, June 25.
"Chris Benoit was replaced by Johnny Nitro for the ECW Championship match at Vengeance, as Benoit was not there due to personal issues, stemming from the death of his wife Nancy," the posting read.
The posting was confirmed to ABC News by Wikipedia spokesman Sandra Ordonez on Thursday. Ordonez said Friday that the company had handed over any information to authorities that might help their investigation, including the IP address.
The company didn't have the name of the poster, but revealed the original posting about Nancy Benoit's death was stripped 47 minutes after it was added to Chris Benoit's entry, Ordonez added.
A volunteer editor flagged the post and notified the Web site's management, Ordonez said, before the company notified the police.
The writer claims in the "confession" that as speculation grew about what "personal reasons" may have forced Benoit to miss scheduled World Wrestling Entertainment events Saturday and Sunday, he or she latched onto a rumor online about the death of Nancy Benoit and posted it as "fact" on the Chris Benoit Wikipedia entry.
The Benoit entry, which has been updated hundreds of times this week, is currently locked due to "vandalism."
While there are ways to scramble IP addresses, police are often able to trace exactly where Wikipedia entries originate. "Authorities are usually very effective at figuring out where that IP address came from," Ordonez said.
Police say that Benoit asphyxiated his wife Nancy Friday, used a chokehold to kill their 7-year-old son Saturday and hanged himself with a weight machine cord early Sunday morning.
World Wrestling Entertainment contacted authorities Monday after Benoit missed scheduled events Friday and Saturday. The wrestling organization said the wrestler canceled his appearance at a Sunday night championship match, saying his wife and son were suffering from food poisoning. On Sunday, the wrestler sent a series of text messages to two of his co-workers simply listing his address. In another, he wrote, "The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open."
The pro wrestling group also made "several attempts to contact Benoit via phone and text message," but hadn't reached him as of 11 p.m. Sunday, according to a WWE statement.
The WWE, which originally posted the contents of the text messages, has since stripped them from the pro wrestling organization's Web site.
The IP address from which the first Wikipedia addition -- and subsequent confession -- was made has been flagged for "vandalizing" other Wikipedia entries in the past, including a racist edit about troubled NBA star Ron Artest.
Another entry was edited earlier this month, apparently from the same IP address, about WWE wrestler Chavo Guerrero Jr., a close friend of Benoit's and reportedly one of the two recipients of text messages sent by Benoit over the weekend before the bodies were discovered.
In that entry, the IP user stripped an explicit and damaging description from the Guerrero post.
Chavo Guerrero is the nephew of Eddie Guerrero, another friend of Benoit's and a wrestler who died of heart failure in 2005. While he was reportedly clean at the time of his death, the coroner later tied the heart failure to longtime drug and alcohol abuse.
Jerry McDevitt, a lawyer for the WWE, told The Associated Press Thursday that no one at the WWE knew that Nancy Benoit was dead before her body was found Monday. "I have no idea who posted this," McDevitt said. "It's at least possible Chris may have sent some other text message to someone that we're unaware of. We don't know if he did. The phone is in the possession of authorities."
Authorities, who have ruled the incident a double murder-suicide and still have released no motive, also confirmed Thursday that federal drug agents and sheriff's officials conducted an overnight raid at the office of Benoit's personal physician, Dr. Phil Astin, in search of medical and prescription records.
The search warrant was obtained by the Fayette County Sheriff's Department in connection with the Benoit investigation, according to Chuvalo Truesdell, spokesman for the department.
Benoit had been under the care of Astin, a longtime friend, purportedly for treatment of low testosterone levels. Benoit visited Astin Friday, the day police say he killed his wife. The doctor said that Benoit showed no signs of distress at their meeting.
Anabolic steroids were found in Benoit's home, leading officials to wonder whether "roid rage" may have played any role in the murders. Results from toxicology tests may not be completed for two weeks.
Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said that empty beer cans were found in a trash can in the Benoit home and an empty wine bottle was discovered a few feet from where Benoit hanged himself.
McDevitt, the WWE attorney, has said that Benoit and his wife had been arguing over whether the wrestler should take time off to help care for their son, Daniel, who suffers from a rare medical condition called Fragile X syndrome.
Benoit did request and receive four months off from work in 2006 for personal reasons. "He was feeling depressed, that kind of thing," McDevitt said.
On Friday, Benoit's father spoke publicly for the first time. Michael Benoit said he could not understand what might have motivated his son to murder his wife and son and kill himself, but he's hopeful the toxicology reports might finally provide some answers. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
Copyright © 2007 ABC News Internet Ventures
slowandsteady
07-02-07, 03:40 PM
Yes. Precisely. This reason and only this reason. Never any other reasons...
Or revenge
lyeinyoureye
07-02-07, 06:01 PM
No! No other reasons other than what you initially stated. You were completely 1289u198271% right, and because of that, now you are hj4k32h4325u3496t%m wrong. N3wb.
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