Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - IRO Group Buy TRADE thread!!

Ok, i'm going to go ahead and state the obvious: a LOT of people on this forum are gonna want to trade their IRO group buy framesets, and probably for lots of different reasons (yes, i'm one of those people). Soo... i'll start:

wanted: FLAT BLACK group buy frameset (or just frame, i'm down with either); 53cm, 1" steerer (threaded)

i have: BLUE group buy frameset (again, or just frame); 53cm, 1" steerer (threaded)


(if you must know, i came into some components that won't work as well with blue as they would with black)

HAVE: 53cm black, threadless

WANT: 56cm, threadless, any color

I'm in chicago, so a face-to-face trade would be ideal.

50cm blue

for miche cranks and bb, or other decent parts

have: 56 threadless green

want: it to fit

but will trade for 59 threadless black or green and maybe blue if it doesnt

I've posted this elsewhere and got no hits, so here it goes again:

Have: 59cm green 1 1/8" threadless.

Want: Preferably a 59cm black 1" threaded. Failing that, a 59cm 1" threaded in any color.

anyone know if IRO: 1) has extras, or 2) will allow trades to take place on their end?

: O

have 56 threadless blue

want gone or maybe 53.. threadless hopefully blue

I've posted this elsewhere and got no hits, so here it goes again:

Have: 59cm green 1 1/8" threadless.

Want: Preferably a 59cm black 1" threaded. Failing that, a 59cm 1" threaded in any color.

I'm very interested.. But I need to see photos of the green first.. I have a 59cm 1" black.

what the hell is wrong with them that you guys are so quick to get rid of them?

are there any pictures?

what the hell is wrong with them that you guys are so quick to get rid of them?

are there any pictures?
your sig is awesome. for some reason it reminds me of HL2.

what the hell is wrong with them that you guys are so quick to get rid of them?

are there any pictures?

is it possible the IRO groupbuy frame has already jumped the shark before it's even reached a doorstep? :D gotta move on to the newest hotness!


(for the record i ain't sellin mine.)

what the hell is wrong with them that you guys are so quick to get rid of them?

are there any pictures?

I think there are many that bought them with the intention of flipping them, and likely still more that don't have the money to build them up.

that, and a lot of **** can happen in three months. there are people who buy and sell all the time and probably don't need one now. don't just assume we're too poor.

I have the money and parts, I just want to see how the size runs. I thought a 53cm[threaded] would be a true 53cm, but that does not seem to be the case. Its seems that a 56cm would have been more suitable for my size. I don't think I'll sell mine. I may trade, but I may also make a bike for my friend since that frame would fit her.

Edit. I also put money down on that bike when I still had my last bike. Then I destroyed my last bike trying to remove the seatpost and got a new frame and fork in the meantime.

I thought a 53cm[threaded] would be a true 53cm, but that does not seem to be the case.

The 53 cm has a 53cm seattube C-T, and a 54cm top tube C-C. How is that not a true 53cm?

The 53 cm has a 53cm seattube C-T, and a 54cm top tube C-C. How is that not a true 53cm?
There is a chart in one of the other billion threads on the group buy topic.
I'm looking at the Mark V geometry right not on the IRO site.
53cm ---- s/t c-c 49cm

49cm c-c = 53cm c-t.

center to center and center to toptube should only be about a centimeter difference. Not 4

I have deleted offers to buy/sell. It's against forum policy and most of you know better, now cut it out.

http://www.irofixedgear.com/ProductImages/angus_LRG.jpg

That's a 4cm difference between C-C and C-T. A 1 cm difference between the two would put the "top" below the upper level of the top tube.

good observation rknj.

the ctc versus ctt is about 3cm different on my bianchi pista and fuji track FWIW.

yeah but the frame size should be measured c-c not c-t.

center to center and center to toptube should only be about a centimeter difference. Not 4

Its 4cm on my BMC SL01. Otherwise they couldn't fit the clamp in. You should take the fit based on top-tube (effective) length anyway. You can move a seatpost up and down by about 25cm, stems you have about 4cm to play with.

i don't get why anyone's surprised about anything. The size chart clearly lists every measurement and whether it's c-c or c-t, etc. Regardless of what you're used to, if a sizing chart was provided with specifics, why is there any confusion? Granted-- $150 isn't a lot of money, but why would you throw ANY money at something without at least taking a quick look at what it is you were buying?? Makes no sense to me...

i don't get why anyone's surprised about anything. The size chart clearly lists every measurement and whether it's c-c or c-t, etc. Regardless of what you're used to, if a sizing chart was provided with specifics, why is there any confusion? Granted-- $150 isn't a lot of money, but why would you throw ANY money at something without at least taking a quick look at what it is you were buying?? Makes no sense to me...
well, no offense to tony, but his website (current and previous) sucks, and was pretty much changing daily - i certainly did not see the sizing chart when ordered... i ride a 56, so i got a 56... sure, there could have been more due dilligence on my part, but it would have only led to me not buying at all (57cm top tube is too much of a stretch for me for me). i'm not pissed or anything, it's a steal either way - but i definitely would have gone for a threadless fork if i had known the 56 was so short -- like i said before, **** a long ass quill stem.

either way, my around town fixie was stolen a week and a half ago, and i don't like to use my roadie to kick around on, so i replaced it with an uno on the cheap. so worst case scenario, the IRO doesn't fit & i end up with the dope wheels/cranks/misc parts i got for the iro on the uno (a cheap chinese frame's a cheap chinese frame, no?) & a spanking new quill stem for my classic roadie. I'm sure someone will apperciate the frame for what i paid for it.

suppose this leads me to a question, though. Anyone (who typically rides a 56) ride a 56 angus/mark V? do you basically have to jack the seat up 20 feet and be in sprint position all the time?

the bike on the left is a 56. the bike on the right is the same but with the top tube raised about 4 cm.
that's about how the 56 would look if it had a 56 c-c seat tube.
the top tube on the 56 is 55.5 c-c... is 0.5 cm going to kill you?
is 4 cm more seatpost showing going to **** up your life?
http://img101.mytextgraphics.com/photolava/2007/06/28/56angus-46yvu2fij.jpg

could swear i already replied to that, but a.) thanks and b.) how tall are you?

i don't get why anyone's surprised about anything. The size chart clearly lists every measurement and whether it's c-c or c-t, etc. Regardless of what you're used to, if a sizing chart was provided with specifics, why is there any confusion? Granted-- $150 isn't a lot of money, but why would you throw ANY money at something without at least taking a quick look at what it is you were buying?? Makes no sense to me...

it's pretty common for people to go by seattube and then everyone's all, "wait! iro runs small!" and then everyone's all "whoa I'm lost what's a top tube measurement"

yeah but the frame size should be measured c-c not c-t.

I don't think bike sizing has been consistent at any point in my life. People buying a bike online should know that top tube is by far the more important measurement. Seat posts have lots of play, stems.. not so much.

have 56 1" green
want 59 1" whatever

suppose this leads me to a question, though. Anyone (who typically rides a 56) ride a 56 angus/mark V? do you basically have to jack the seat up 20 feet and be in sprint position all the time?

I ride 56 on all my road frames, 56 tt (effective) on my old giant compact, 56 tt on my motobecane le champion I got to replace the stolen giant, and most importantly, a 56 on my Mark V. I would say my torso length is ever-so-slightly on the short side for a 56 on my road bikes (a problem I solved easily with some component swapping) but I bought a 90cm stem (tony sent me a 110cm with the build kit) to run bullhorns on my Mark V. I run the syntace bullhorns that have a 20cm drop on the bar, and about 1cm of spacers below the stem. When I run risers on the Mark V, my 110cm stem is perfect.

My guess is that you won't have any trouble with the 56 group buy frame.

yeah. it really wasnt that bad for me on my mark v but i kinda want a 59 anyway.

have: cash
want: 59cm anything

have: 59cm flat black 1" threaded
want: 62cm any color 1" threaded

have: cash
want: 59cm anything


Same here.

have: 59cm flat black threadless
want: 62cm any color threadless and maybe hugs

have: 56 cm threadless blue
want: gone

i don't have any money or time to work on this and if i can get rid of it, that would be great.

caveat: like many, mine came with some damage. there's paint that peeled off the fork ends. tony emailed and said they would be shipping touch up paint once they find a color match. for now, the frame's just sitting in the box, still in all it's packaging.

pics here (http://bikeforums.net/showthread.php?p=4794692#post4794692)

PM if interested

pm'd!

want: 50cm threaded..

I want a 56cm in blue or green! let me know whatcha got.

want: 53cm flat black 1" threaded

I'm going to do a quick mock-up build, but I may have the following:

Have: 59, black 1.125 threadless
Want: 62, any color (pref black), 1.125 threadless.

Jim

Have:50cm blue threaded
want:some alluring parts/time machine

have: 53cm BLACK 1 1/8th threadless
want: 50 or 53cm BLUE

Have: 59cm threaded blue [GONE]

HAVE 59cm threadless blue

I don't have a frame to trade however i'd like to buy a black 53 threadless if anyone has one.

I have deleted offers to buy/sell. It's against forum policy and most of you know better, now cut it out.



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im in denial that my Black Threadless 59cm GB Iro is too big for me. someone reason with me and trade me for a 56cm.

I think the FFSG sub forum should have a TT measurement advocacy group. I have see so many individuals come and ask what size should I have, I am such and such height. Then someone tells them a ST measurement. Well, besides the fact that it is difficult to know an exact size for someone that is such and such a height, ST measure is definitely not the best way to determine size. And yes TT measure is also not going to tell you for sure what size bike to get, but it is certainly a closer metric.