Classic & Vintage - Best year for original equipped Miyata 1000?

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karmantra
06-30-07, 04:57 PM
I am interested in picking up (eventually) an originally-equipped, or close to it, Miyata 1000 in a 50cm size--I'm interested to know the span of years that the 1000 or 1000LT came out, and if some years are more preferable than others. The one I'm most familiar with is the '86 model--nicely equipped and beautiful paint scheme. Are there some model years that are preferable to others, or is it a matter of take what you can get? Thanks!
Antipodes
06-30-07, 06:16 PM
...is it a matter of take what you can get? Thanks!
Yes, because the prices that basically any year of 1000 are commanding are getting quite high. An '86 sold on eBay about a month ago for around $800.
I have a 1981 model, which I like, but obviously is not as desirable as the later years, mainly due to the absence of low rider mounts and extra bottle bosses...
mainly due to the absence of low rider mounts
What's a "low rider mount"? Fork braze-ons?
karmantra
06-30-07, 07:51 PM
What's a "low rider mount"? Fork braze-ons?
Yes--most common after 1983 on higher end touring bikes.
miamijim
07-01-07, 07:27 AM
The newer the better. Miyata always had the latest in touring tech on the 1000.
karmantra
07-01-07, 10:20 AM
The newer the better. Miyata always had the latest in touring tech on the 1000.
Did the newer 1000s have handlebar end shifters, plus the full complement of braze-ons? Did the frame geometry stay the same?
Antipodes
07-01-07, 11:43 AM
Did the newer 1000s have handlebar end shifters, plus the full complement of braze-ons? Did the frame geometry stay the same?
Yes, yes and no. From what I can see, the geometry changed a bit over the years, especially from the early '80s to the mid '80s. Chainstays got longer and bottom brackets got lower. Wait for T-Mar's opinion - I'm sure he'll know all about this aspect...
Like most models, the 1000 bounced around a bit in terms of geometry, features and components. It was simply a matter of reflecting current taste in the marketplace. Miyata's top GT model was introduced in the very late 1970s and marketed in North America until at least 1993. It was probably still in production for other markets, but that's my last year I've tracked down for the US and Canada.
The one big oversight on most 1000 models was the lack of bar end shifters, which it did not receive until 1990.
The 1990 would probably be my personal choice for the most desirable 1000 model. The bar ends are a big factor. But it's also new enough that it has the splined triple buuted tubing, indexed shifting, hyperglide (a must for those shifting under heavy load), 21 gears and low-rider mounts on the forks. It had lost only a few of the desirable features of the earlier models. Most notable was that the 3rd bottle mount had been replaced by a mount for compressed air cartridges. The 40 spoke rear wheel was down to 36. And the internal luighting harness was missing. The last deciding factor, for me anyways, is that it was also Miyata's century year.
Second on my list would be the 1986. It still has the STB tubeset and lo-riders, but also has triple bottle mounts, the internal wiring harness and the 40 spoke rear wheel. But there's no indexing, hyperglide, bar-ends and it only has 18 speeds.
Third chopice would be any other model after 1986, as it would have the spline triple butted tubing and lo-rider mounts. Most of the other desirable feature are easily obtained component upgrades.
karmantra
07-02-07, 09:21 AM
Thanks T-Mar for the great detailed info on the Miyata 1000 era--sounds like the '86-'90 years may be the way to go! Now if I could just find one in a 50 cm size......
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