Vehicular Cycling (VC) - Motorist gets a reward

Zeuser, do you have some sort of physical/psychological/emotional handicap...
Bingo!

Hm...now I'm not sure on this but it seems the OP made sure to take up as much room as possable wherever he was riding too, making a concerted effort to legaly be an annoyance by his actions in the first post....succeeded in upsetting an old lady, then followed that person to vandalize their vehicle. So..the old lady is a rude and crass individual and the OP is a vandal. How would I have handled it? Kept riding, doesn't take much backbone/courage to stand up to an out of shape old lady, takes even less to vandalize her car while she's eating. You didn't make a point, you didn't solve a problem, you acted like a scared kid throwing eggs at a house and running away on holloween, only more destructive. Glad you didn't get cursed at by some 6'4 dude in a bronco, you may have lost control when you shat yourself in fear. Truely a sad and imature performance.

Nope. I'm not lazy because I'm not using a motor to help me ride a bike, like you are. Why do you find it so difficult to ride without a crutch?


Another non sequitur. See above lazy bones.

Wrong, it's totally logical numnuts! The very concept of bikes was to use a mechanical device to have a mechanical advantage for transportation purposes.

I'm not even going to bother with you anymore, Even your "non sequitur" comebacks don't make any sense anymore. You know what... your own logic is non sequitur.

Maybe if you rode around completely on your own power you wouldn't have all this excess energy/rage...

I read a Scientific American article that said riding e-bikes leads to violent behavior towards little old ladies who are overweight and ill-tempered.

She wasn't old or little. Don't listen to Pete's BS, he's making it up as he goes along.

Wrong, it's totally logical numnuts! The very concept of bikes was to use a mechanical device to have a mechanical advantage for transportation purposes.

I'm not even going to bother with you anymore, Even your "non sequitur" comebacks don't make any sense anymore. You know what... your own logic is non sequitur.

Actually the drive mechanism on a bicycle differs from a motor in that in the former, all the energy is derived from your body's muscles, while for the latter, energy is added to the system (which came from the power plant that ran the utility to provide you the electricity to charge your battery). Using mechanical leverage (through crank, chain and gearing) to adapt the body's actuator mechanisms (read: muscles) to a different type of motion from what they were designed for is very different from using a separate source of stored energy to assist those muscles.

Actually the drive mechanism on a bicycle differs from a motor in that in the former, all the energy is derived from your body's muscles, while for the latter, energy is added to the system (which came from the power plant that ran the utility to provide you the electricity to charge your battery). Using mechanical leverage (through crank, chain and gearing) to adapt the body's actuator mechanisms (read: muscles) to a different type of motion from what they were designed for is very different from using a separate source of stored energy to assist those muscles.

I'm well aware of that. But the point I was getting at is the whole "laziness" argument which is quite stupid. If I were really lazy, I'd be using a car or anything else that I just don't have to use physical force at all. It's really that simple. My "crutch" is actually an "unfair advantage" and I think that's really what's getting to Pete. An eBike probably blasted past him and he couldn't take it.

I must be something like that considering all his hostility towards eBikes. Honestly, why should he care? he should just keep on riding his bike and enjoying it as much as he can and leave it at that.

It's not like I drove my eBike behind him, laid on the horn, waved obsenities at him, passed him on the left and yelled some really foul language at him.

So why he has hostility towards eBikes beats the hell out me. I have to place Pete into the "Ignorant Elitest" that we eBikers run into all the time. The same type of people who simply don't realize that for every eBiker on the road means that it's one less car driver on the road.

It's the same type of mentality I experienced a few decades ago when people were really scared that computers would put them out of a job. They simply repeated the same rhetoric over and over again without making any sense and simply proving that they really can't stop and think for themselves. In the end, their arguments got silenced when they finally figured out: "You know what? These computers are actually pretty useful."

The same will happen with eBikes, they'll get more and more popular as gas prices go up. It's unavoidable. And the inability to see the opportunity to take advantage of the trend is what sets apart the followers from the leaders.

I'm well aware of that. But the point I was getting at is the whole "laziness" argument which is quite stupid. If I were really lazy, I'd be using a car or anything else that I just don't have to use physical force at all. It's really that simple. My "crutch" is actually an "unfair advantage" and I think that's really what's getting to Pete. An eBike probably blasted past him and he couldn't take it.

I must be something like that considering all his hostility towards eBikes. Honestly, why should he care? he should just keep on riding his bike and enjoying it as much as he can and leave it at that.

It's not like I drove my eBike behind him, laid on the horn, waved obsenities at him, passed him on the left and yelled some really foul language at him.

So why he has hostility towards eBikes beats the hell out me. I have to place Pete into the "Ignorant Elitest" that we eBikers run into all the time. The same type of people who simply don't realize that for every eBiker on the road means that it's one less car driver on the road.

It's the same type of mentality I experienced a few decades ago when people were really scared that computers would put them out of a job. They simply repeated the same rhetoric over and over again without making any sense and simply proving that they really can't stop and think for themselves. In the end, their arguments got silenced when they finally figured out: "You know what? These computers are actually pretty useful."

The same will happen with eBikes, they'll get more and more popular as gas prices go up. It's unavoidable. And the inability to see the opportunity to take advantage of the trend is what sets apart the followers from the leaders.

Well, I dunno. That last sentence displays some elitism on your part as well. I don't speak for everyone, but one of the main reasons I use my bicycle for transportation is for independence. There is a bit of tradition in cycling, and there is a bit of culture surrounding cyclists. For many cyclists, the bicycle is a symbol representing the freedom to travel coupled with independence from outside influences.

You swim countra-flow on this one. But to each his own.

And do you wanna know a little secret? Pete doesn't hate eBikes. He doesn't hate recumbents. He has fun with people who feel the need to protect their minority choice as if someone is going to reach through the internet and stop them from doing what they choose to do. He takes the counterculturists, pokes them, and if they bristle, he pokes them again. Think of it as a test of your own securities. If it makes you feel better, he has a field day with Helmet Head.

I read a Scientific American article that said riding e-bikes leads to violent behavior towards little old ladies who are overweight and ill-tempered.

She wasn't old or little. Don't listen to Pete's BS, he's making it up as he goes along.
Exactly.

I would agree that you were over the top in your actions to the lady, but reading this thread, like, "oooh, e-bike rider, you're lazy," is the silliest.

(BTW, my name is Pete, so I'm not sure who you're referring to.)

this thread has been highly entertaining. thanks!

Let me just say this: Those multi-tools come in handy for writing "thank you notes". ;)


nah, just take a crap on her windshield and door handles. :D

How would you have handle it then?

I would have set my e-bike to 400 watts and dropped her poser ass...