Foo - Why are certain brand riders so stuck up??

TWICE since I've gotten my bike, I've seen Moots owners and said hi or complimented their bikes. TWICE I've gotten a nose turned up to me. Other people are cool with me. Maybe it's because I wasn't in lycra, had the wrong pedals and shoes or didn't "flip it"??? What the heck?? What gives??

Dang roadies. :mad:

People suck.

It's not you, it's them Siu. I just let them be knowing I gave them a greeting but they were too snooty to return it, their bad. But, get the lycra together, it's much more comfy on the tushie:D

You'd also be wicked hot in lycra, killer..

It's not you, it's them Siu.Exactly. You've offered your greeting and kind words. If they can't can't show a modicum of civility in response, then the hell with them. It's no skin off your nose.

Some people are just dicks. Bike or not.

Yeah, extending well wishes to others without the return sux and tends to sap you of positive energy. :rolleyes:

Siu, please take my advice and stop counting. It will only empower the frustration. :o

I don't greet. It's not snobbery, I just don't give a damn.

TWICE since I've gotten my bike, I've seen Moots owners and said hi or complimented their bikes. TWICE I've gotten a nose turned up to me. Other people are cool with me. Maybe it's because I wasn't in lycra, had the wrong pedals and shoes or didn't "flip it"??? What the heck?? What gives??

Dang roadies. :mad:I feel this way at work all the time. Except it's just that, as far as I can tell, people are freaking weird. It's an unsettling feeling, though, you wonder what the HECK is wrong with them that they can't muster up even a simple, minimal-energy-expending polite nod of acknowledgment.

Like X said, to hell with 'em.

So if they don't say hi back, they're automatically snobs? How, exactly, does that work?

Am I a car snob because I don't acknowledge other Toyota drivers?

I'll acknowledge other riders but they don't always return my wave. I don't really care.

I don't greet. It's not snobbery, I just don't give a damn.See, that's what it seems to be at my work, too. I don't understand that attitude. Is it physically painful to be friendly, or what?

When you notice that a stranger has just said "Hello" to you or has smiled specifically in your direction, you just...look away? What if it's a stranger but you just almost bumped into them coming through a door; do you share a moment of friendly "Oops!" or do you brush past them like they don't exist? How about cashiers or checkout people? Do you acknowledge their chitchat or just ignore them? What about co-workers/team-members--If you walk into a meeting and someone says "Hi" do you respond to them? What if you saw them on the sidewalk somewhere?

At what point does someone qualify to be acknowledged? I mean, does it go through your brain like, "Do I know that person? No: ignore." Or do they not even register on your consciousness because you're so used to not responding?

Sincere questions, here. I can't talk to these people in the halls at work to ask them, you get to be a surrogate. (I'm prepared for the fact that your not giving a damn will extend to not answering nosy questions from a stranger on the internet.)

Maybe I'm just wired differently because I can't even see someone smiling into the camera on a freaking commercial without smiling back. :D

WTF is a 'Moot'???? I'm sure I can live without one so the point is moot.

:roflmao:

:beer:

Maybe I'm just wired differently because I can't even see someone smiling into the camera on a freaking commercial without smiling back. :D
That's about it, really. I have no desire to say hi or chit chat with anyone just because they're feeling talkative or are uncomfortable with silence between two people. If they have a problem with me not responding then that's exactly what it is: their problem.

Stupid people are stupid.

Maybe they were horrified by the drop in exclusivity of their once-obscure frames. :)

I don't greet. It's not snobbery, I just don't give a damn.

I would agree, Depending on my mood I might just be up to being social. And yes, a wave and a high is social. Sometimes I am in my own head and don't want to be interupted

Same at work and in life. Sometimes my close friends and family just know I am busy doing something in my head, and they know to leave me alone.

There are a few Moots guys around here. I've never had more than a 2 word conversation with any single one of them, and none of them seem too crazy about their bikes.

People ask me how I like my LOOK, and I usually reply enthusiastically and I give them a paragraph about what I love. Moots people seem to just shrug and say "it's nice".

since this post is about bikes, it really shouldn't be in foo. someone should move it to the roadie forum so the OCP crowd there can get all worked up about the foo 'I don't give a ***** about your rare and priceless piece of crap bike' 'tude.

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My Wolverine buddies always think it's funny when I show up on my old steel Schwinn wearing blue jeans and a Camelback, but that doesn't alter the fact I can stomp all over most of them. Just the same, everyone around here is respectful of my fredness. Even people with Seven's and Moots's.

Kali has a general lack of respect for people and their property. Must be a Kali thing.

TWICE since I've gotten my bike, I've seen Moots owners and said hi or complimented their bikes. TWICE I've gotten a nose turned up to me. Other people are cool with me.

Is there something wrong with Moots owners? :p I don't know any IRL. :o

Seriously, though. They aren't taking you "seriously". Mostly, it's on them to judge or not judge on sight.



had the wrong pedals and

Road or MTB pedals are acceptable for "serious" roadies. Road pedals are better for the job, but it's really a personal issue.




shoes

Whatever fits your cleats... Road shoes are allowed to be embarassingly ugly.




didn't "flip it"???

Not at all. That's a BF thing. And not-too-serious, IMHO.




Maybe it's because I wasn't in lycra,


This is the look that makes you appear serious. Right or wrong. :o

Drop 'em like a hot rock and they'll take you seriously no matter what you're riding or wearing...

Whatever fits your cleats... Road shoes are allowed to be embarassingly ugly.




Doesn't Siu wear Cons?

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/b/bc/300px-A_classic_Black_pair_of_Converse_All_Stars_resting_on_the_Black_%26_White_Ed._Shoebox_%281998-2002%29.JPG


Now, it'd be really cool if she screwed cleats into them...

Siu, this happens to me every day with the kind of people you describe and my bike isn't even remotely "acceptable" to them. Heck, I get sneers and snubs from them on the light rail train. (If they're so hard core, what the heck are they doing going over the West Hills with their bike on a train? :rolleyes: ) Ignore them. We all know why you got the bike you did - and you really needed it. Wear whatever you want, pedal with whatever pedals you feel like using, be social and friendly with others. Just don't count on them. I'm reasonably sure they're far more miserable human beings for the way they treat others. As long as you're you, you'll never be like that.

Now that you've put "Moots" on my personal radar screen, I've seen about 5 of them around town here in the last 2 months. Two of them were being ridden by people in blue jeans. :D


since this post is about bikes, it really shouldn't be in foo. someone should move it to the roadie forum so the OCP crowd there can get all worked up about the foo 'I don't give a ***** about your rare and priceless piece of crap bike' 'tude.
It's also about human nature. You can remove "Moots", "bikes", "pedals", and "lycra" and insert any other status-oriented widget and its accessories in there. The song remains the same.

See, that's what it seems to be at my work, too. I don't understand that attitude. Is it physically painful to be friendly, or what?

When you notice that a stranger has just said "Hello" to you or has smiled specifically in your direction, you just...look away? What if it's a stranger but you just almost bumped into them coming through a door; do you share a moment of friendly "Oops!" or do you brush past them like they don't exist? How about cashiers or checkout people? Do you acknowledge their chitchat or just ignore them? What about co-workers/team-members--If you walk into a meeting and someone says "Hi" do you respond to them? What if you saw them on the sidewalk somewhere?

At what point does someone qualify to be acknowledged? I mean, does it go through your brain like, "Do I know that person? No: ignore." Or do they not even register on your consciousness because you're so used to not responding?

Sincere questions, here. I can't talk to these people in the halls at work to ask them, you get to be a surrogate. (I'm prepared for the fact that your not giving a damn will extend to not answering nosy questions from a stranger on the internet.)

Maybe I'm just wired differently because I can't even see someone smiling into the camera on a freaking commercial without smiling back. :D
You're not comparing like for like. Someone I pass by at work, who can strike up a conversation with me, even if it is just a "hello", is different from a fellow cyclist I see on the road.

I'm not saying I snub anyone, but I don't bother nodding and smiling at every cyclist I see just because they're on a bicycle. And if someone does visibly greet me I'd feel a bit odd not at least acknowledging them. I'm just happy that most don't.

I'm actually very friendly and talkative. I'm just making the point that the whole "ooh a fellow cyclist I better wave and smile!" attitude is tired.

Cycling back home from London yesterday I passed a great number of other cyclists. Not one felt the need to play the meet and greet game, and honestly I'm glad for it. We're just people, like car drivers and pedestrians and all.

I was especially glad that I was overtaking almost every one. I didn't expect that. :D

Give 'em a Moot Salute! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av0FLJaeu54

Some people are just in a bad moot.

Heh. I love the folks driving their convertable old souped up cars, or new ferraris and all, and everytime theyre at a stop light, they check around to see if anyones looking at their car.
Id like to look at his/hers massive lease on it:)

Its OK Siu, WE love you!

I'm not saying I snub anyone, but I don't bother nodding and smiling at every cyclist I see just because they're on a bicycle. And if someone does visibly greet me I'd feel a bit odd not at least acknowledging them. I'm just happy that most don't.

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Cycling back home from London yesterday I passed a great number of other cyclists. Not one felt the need to play the meet and greet game, and honestly I'm glad for it. We're just people, like car drivers and pedestrians and all.

I was especially glad that I was overtaking almost every one. I didn't expect that. :DThree cheers for overtaking almost everyone!

Okay, I guess that's different. I thought your "I don't give a damn" was an explanation for why you wouldn't respond if you were a Moots owner being "Hello'd" by Siu, not why you wouldn't be the first to say "Hi! Love your bike! Beautiful day innit? Do you want to go have a picnic together?" :p

Maybe around my work people are "Damn, it's that annoyingly cheerful redhead again...quick, I'll just...uh... just pretend I'm examining the paint on the hallways, yeah, that's it..."

I smile at other pedestrians, too. I probably should have lived in some (possibly imaginary) small town in the south where people on the porch holler "Hello" to people driving by on the street, whether they know them or not.

I try not to smile too much, I am afraid I'll get put on a train and sent to the INTERWEB SMILEY FACTORY

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You're not comparing like for like. Someone I pass by at work, who can strike up a conversation with me, even if it is just a "hello", is different from a fellow cyclist I see on the road.

I'm not saying I snub anyone, but I don't bother nodding and smiling at every cyclist I see just because they're on a bicycle. And if someone does visibly greet me I'd feel a bit odd not at least acknowledging them. I'm just happy that most don't.

I'm actually very friendly and talkative. I'm just making the point that the whole "ooh a fellow cyclist I better wave and smile!" attitude is tired.

Cycling back home from London yesterday I passed a great number of other cyclists. Not one felt the need to play the meet and greet game, and honestly I'm glad for it. We're just people, like car drivers and pedestrians and all.

I was especially glad that I was overtaking almost every one. I didn't expect that. :D


you had a nice weekend in the big city and you got to race some unsuspecting sunday-riders on the way back into the sticks? well, good for you! :-)

I try not to smile too much, I am afraid I'll get put on a train and sent to the INTERWEB SMILEY FACTORY

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Siu, when I first got my roadie, i got those snobby people as well. I still don't wear a riding kit, and when people pass me, there like" what are you doing on a look?" I just think to myself " riding it idiot"

So if they don't say hi back, they're automatically snobs? How, exactly, does that work?

Am I a car snob because I don't acknowledge other Toyota drivers?

Maybe I should be a little more specific on the situation. I was riding casually - with yes, my beloved converse, my summer shorts and a tank top. As I started to shift and go a bit faster, he came up from behind me and passed me, gave me "the look". I gave him space but stayed behind him. His bike started to make a squeaking sound, and I had noticed his tire was flattening. As he slowed, I slowed as well and said to him, "are you going to be okay? - Heeey! Nice bike!!"(I just noticed it was a Moots) and he gave me the dirtiest look. I asked him again if he needed any help and he just got off the bike and walked it to the side without a word.

Yes, to me he was a snob. I wasn't trying to be best friends, just offering help in case he needed. That's, exactly how it works.
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Donna, I hear what you are saying. I've always been the type to never be ashamed of who I am, as long as I'm happy and not doing any harm to anyone. I try to stay away from getting involved in being who I am not. I'm just me. If people don't like it, what can I do? I just don't understand why people have to be so negative all the time.

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Mirage, you sound a lot like me. :) I always try to be nice to others because there are enough mean people around. Like you said, it doesn't take a lot of energy to flash a smile or a quick hello to brighten someone's day. Sometimes, that may be the only positive thing that someone gets for the day. Better to be kind to someone than the opposite. ;)

Don't get me started on this. Roadies often are the most snobbish people you'll ever run into riding. They won't acknowledge you if you aren't wearing the right jersey (usually a better team), the right bike, or you aren't going fast.

Dang roadies. :mad:

There ya go.......

:eek: Oh no. Busted.

I think there is a bumper sticker around that says, "Mean People Suck".

Being nice, being polite, smiling at someone, etc. doesn't cost ANYTHING, but it pays greatly.

Don't stop being you, Siu. Maybe the next roadie will thank you for offering. Maybe he will pay it forward.

I for one, am really fed up with the yuppie soccer moms hauling their babies around behind their bike in special trailers with a screen to protect the pampered little preciouses from the sun.

"Oh look at me!"
"I am so important! I have a baby!"
"I take widdle wumpling with me even when I exercise on my bikey, because I want all the neighbors to see what I grunted out of my womb!"

grrrrrrrrr...

:eek: Easy there killer...

The answer is he's gay. What straight guy wouldn't be thrilled to talk with a good looking woman with a tank top that starts a conversation?


Maybe I should be a little more specific on the situation. I was riding casually - with yes, my beloved converse, my summer shorts and a tank top. As I started to shift and go a bit faster, he came up from behind me and passed me, gave me "the look". I gave him space but stayed behind him. His bike started to make a squeaking sound, and I had noticed his tire was flattening. As he slowed, I slowed as well and said to him, "are you going to be okay? - Heeey! Nice bike!!"(I just noticed it was a Moots) and he gave me the dirtiest look. I asked him again if he needed any help and he just got off the bike and walked it to the side without a word.

Yes, to me he was a snob. I wasn't trying to be best friends, just offering help in case he needed. That's, exactly how it works.
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TWICE since I've gotten my bike, I've seen Moots owners and said hi or complimented their bikes. TWICE I've gotten a nose turned up to me. Other people are cool with me. Maybe it's because I wasn't in lycra, had the wrong pedals and shoes or didn't "flip it"??? What the heck?? What gives??

Dang roadies. :mad:
I figured it out I think. The unsociable ones that I've met spent a fortune on their toys, only to find out the sad truth is you still have to get your butt out there and work. So not only are they grumpy because the bike doesn't ride itself, but they are too winded to speak. :D

I know how ya feel, Siu!

Imagine the lack of respect I often get wearing my visored helmet riding a 20 year old Schwinn!:p

I just get revenge by dropping them........;)

:eek: Easy there killer...


Just a little outburst of satire, I'm not being serious ;)

If I had kids, I would probably be doing the Mr. Mom thing and hauling the rug rats behind my bike

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Doesn't Siu wear Cons?

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Now, it'd be really cool if she screwed cleats into them...
I know a guy who had bowling soles put on his cons. People always thought he was bowling with sneakers...

Just a little outburst of satire, I'm not being serious ;)

If I had kids, I would probably be doing the Mr. Mom thing and hauling the rug rats behind my bike

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Sometimes its hard to tell with the written word. :o

It happens.....keep in mind Road cycling is the new golf, so lots of people who are doing it just to say they do it (not for the love of it) are now doing it.

Those people can often easily become jackholes since they really aren't fond of it anyway, but are doing it to be good enough to not look like a sap if the boss asks them out to a ride or something.

I got lots of that with my Vent, since it was not just an "off brand", but because it's layout was so odd, and that I wore a Camelbak Mule to the rides....there's a reason why, I ride to and from the group rides on my bike, adn even go shopping on the way home (I keep a pair of basketball shorts in the Mule too, to avoid the stupid spandex "OMG I can almost see his wangarang" look).

Yesterday some buttnugget I passed descending a small mountain followed me down the bike path a few miles and then when we got to the end turned around and took off. I got off and turned around to say hi-and he was pedaling away.

Some earlier poster is right, some people are just dicks, bike or no bike.

Hehe. Buttnugget.

Keep on smiling Margie, unless they're hopeless cases, some of them will eventually crack and smile back, I heard somewhere that it can be contagious :)

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Yes, to me he was a snob...
You are wrong, sounds like he was a ****wit. ;)
Come on over to Kyoto, it won't happen I promise. They may not know what a Moots is, but that's ok. :) ..many don't know what a Giant is either. Funny story on saturday night at a Tour De France party here, a guy told me he rides a Giant, I asked "what model" and he said he has no idea, but "it's brown".
What's important is that you are riding a bike and not driving the car, keeping healthy and enjoying life.